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[Nikitas]

YFred said:

"UN holds responsible the RoC for the whole mess.

No?"

Well, no he UN has not held he RoC responsible.

And in any case, the idea here is to have a settlement in which the number of people who feel cheated or unfairly treated is kept to the absolute minimum. And this for a simple reason, the fewer people who feel cheated the less desire there will be to upset the settlement. That is if we really want a lasting and viable agreement. The property issue will be the main criterion of fairness because it hits people right where they understand the hit- in the pocket.

[YFred]

YFred said:

"UN holds responsible the RoC for the whole mess.

No?"

Well, no he UN has not held he RoC responsible.

And in any case, the idea here is to have a settlement in which the number of people who feel cheated or unfairly treated is kept to the absolute minimum. And this for a simple reason, the fewer people who feel cheated the less desire there will be to upset the settlement. That is if we really want a lasting and viable agreement. The property issue will be the main criterion of fairness because it hits people right where they understand the hit- in the pocket.

In a court of law, if a fine is set and the person paying it is understood to be the responsible, surely!

Otherwise UN may have said the TC's should pay it as all and sundry claim that TC's started it.

I am just following the logic of the decision. It does not have to be spelt out.

In fact UN is so cowardly these days, that they can't even bring themselves to accuse Israel of war crimes.

Do you not realise that UN has no credibilty left in the world and it has become the plaything of the 5 security members?

[YFred]

"and to add insult to injury also decided that this compensation would be paid NOT by Turkey that actually stole the land, NOT by the future TC component state that would receive it, but by the federal state, which would be funded almost exclusively by GCs."

So we are talking about theft. You can call it fancynames, but in the end it comes down to stealing. In fact it is double stealing when there is money to be paid on top of the land loss.

It does not matter who put it in,

1. RoC as the main beneficiary did not object to this clause, especially as they would have to pay for it.

2. UN holds responsible the RoC for the whole mess.

No?

NO...maybe you should try reading the UN resolutions. You are just common thieves. Nothing else. Committing humanitarian crimes as we speak.

Considering you stole most of my land and I have not taken a single square meter of yours. I nominate you to be posted to the Planet of Uranus for Guard duty looking after GR, Oracle and the rest of your hellenic lunatic fringe gang.

[Kikapu]

Has the light come on in your head yet, or shall I continue.?

No,

The lights were switched off in 1963
By the dreaded R O C
Staaaaaaa Naaaaaaaa Theeeeeeeema
To all the T C

These lines should be included in the next years Eurovision song. I’ll start working on the rest soon.

In the meantime I did read that document, and I was aware of most of it
I did learn a few things I wasn't aware though.

Well done YFred,

On what you learned by reading the article, has it changed your views on anything or do you still believe that the Annan plan should have been accepted by the GC's..?

What has that article got to do with the Annan plan?

So you did not read the whole article then, or anything at all .!

The last 3rd of the article, about 15 pages worth was all based on the Annan Plan.!