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[gabaston]

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no piratis it is not ok for anyone to commit any crime -

[gabaston]

violating your rights is paradoxical to our existance and consequential of the only ever pan cypriot govt, in accordance with guarantor treaty, which i believe never stipulated much more than the restoration of constitution which had since been declared unworkable by Makarios - we therefore await a workable one.

[erolz]

Sure, maybe in that decade we have more blame,

Could you post this in this thread for me - it would be most welcome (by me but not otheres there maybe?)

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=160

but don't forget that you also pushed for taksim.

would not dream of it. We (TC) certainly have much of the blame in this period - just not as much as GC.

I am not asking from you to give us back what we own as a favor. I am saying that it is the right thing to do for both of us.

I agree that we should give back what was taken from you because it is the right thing to do - but it should also be accpeted imo that we were not alone responsible for _why_ it was taken from you and if the giving it back now involves pain and hardship and loss that we should not bear this alone. Does that really sound so unfair to you? Can you accept that GC community played a very real part in creating the conditions that led to your loss in 74 and as such should be willing to pay some of the cost in correcting this?

[gabaston]

i want for my children the same as evryone wants for their children.

the right to live as normal human beings, we havent done that on cyprus for 45 yrs. listen during the sixties while you grew rich we grew poorer and poorer and poorer...........................i do trust that fact is taken into account also.

[gabaston]

piratis

give back what you own.

you owned evrything except the enclaves.

so we go back into the enclaves, is that what you want. if so forget it - that is a recipe for another war - is that what you want?

[gabaston]

thankx for the human rights of sending us back to the enclaves.


dont forget you grew richer and richer at our expense - we will want compensation for that too - not just who owned what but also how and why.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Turkey didnt attack cyprus for the people killed....

Turkey attacked Cyprus so it could be ethnically cleansed. Rhetoric like the "events of 63" or whatever is just a pretext which is still used 40 years later.

[Agios Amvrosios]

Gabaston:

dont forget you grew richer and richer at our expense - we will want compensation for that too - not just who owned what but also how and why.

Alot of refugees did grow rich, but not at Turkish Cypriot expense let me assure you. There was a mass exodus of Refugees out of Cyprus after the invasion-The refugees who left cyprus for other countries after the invasion had to take on the worst jobs- no one else would do. Eventually many of these refugees made it-definitely not at Turkish Cypriot Expense. That is absolutely incorrect to say.

[gabaston]

a lot of refugees grew rich?


i'm talking about 60- 74

[Murtaza]

Turkey didnt attack cyprus for the people killed....

Turkey attacked Cyprus so it could be ethnically cleansed. Rhetoric like the "events of 63" or whatever is just a pretext which is still used 40 years later.

AA I think their aim is not ethnically cleanse cyprus, but protect life of TC.
this is the way of peace they learn from Treaty of Lousane.(Mubadele)

Greece and Turkey did it after world war 1