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Postby detailer » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:24 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
magikthrill wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Um. No. Hitler first tried to expel them, but many believed that since they had been living in Germany for generations that THEY were safe.


yes you try telling a jew that hitler's goal was to remove the jews from germany and not exterminate them.


Mr magikthrill

Good point.

Perhaps you shoul also add Homosexuals, Political Prisoners,
Mentally Ill, Gypsies, Roman Catholics, Russians.....

Estimates for Holocaust Victims are about 11 Million people, Jews accounted for about 6.5 Million.

Most fo the German Jews living in Germany at that time DID NOT BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM.

Probably much like the TC's who didn't want to leave their homes but were "Forced" by TMT


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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:33 pm

Gentlemen

Most of the Jewry of Europe was arrested by Nazi Police BECAUSE they felt safe, because they were German or French or Polish citizens.

In another thread it has been suggested that TC's were "Forced" into enclaves by TMT so that they could prepare for Taksim

I wonder how many Jews or others who were exterminated by the Nazi Regime would be alive today if they too had been "Forced" to leave their homes by those who were worried about them
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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 02, 2005 9:47 pm

Agios

Here's 88 more



"Corpses of 88 Turkish Cypriots have been discovered on a rubbish heap, in Nicosia. These people had been gunned down by Greek Cypriots and Greeks and before their murder they had been tied up with wire. The heads of some of the corpses had been severed from the bodies." (Reported by CBS Television,22 August, 1974.)
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Postby -mikkie2- » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:52 am

What about the 6000 dead peope that Turkish soldiers and some TC's killed in 1974. Is that adequate compensation for your loss?
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Postby gabaston » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:16 am

what u lost was out of that enosis thing. Your government and greek govt were warned in 63 and 67. You provoked that situation with that helenic thing which your President Makarios called for time and time and time again.

Did you really expect Turkey to do nothing forever, while we were swept aside. Was the entire tc population to be thrown off cyprus like Sampson said.............If you lost lives ask those that fought for your enosis.

I understand your present president was one such fighter, and you still support him.....................................

WHY?
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:17 am

I think you are trying to justify the murderings and ethnic cleansing attempt of T.Cs by G.Cs with the Ottoman period!!! So we should shut our mouths and say nothing, becuase of the centuries of Ottoman oppression....

No I am not justifying any crimes. I am simply saying that TCs suffered in that decade, and GCs suffered for centuries during the Ottomans and for three decades from 74 until today.

Therefore I don't think the TCs should present themselves as the victims than now need to be rewarded on the expense of GCs.
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:24 am

Piratis wrote:
I think you are trying to justify the murderings and ethnic cleansing attempt of T.Cs by G.Cs with the Ottoman period!!! So we should shut our mouths and say nothing, becuase of the centuries of Ottoman oppression....

No I am not justifying any crimes. I am simply saying that TCs suffered in that decade, and GCs suffered for centuries during the Ottomans and for three decades from 74 until today.

Therefore I don't think the TCs should present themselves as the victims than now need to be rewarded on the expense of GCs.


Piratis Ottomans gaved Greeks some land, how about you give them back?
You know ottomans take that land from venedic not greeks.
I mean I you look past.
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Postby Piratis » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:42 am

Piratis Ottomans gaved Greeks some land, how about you give them back?
You know ottomans take that land from venedic not greeks.
I mean I you look past.

What land did Ottomans gave to Greeks? Are you about to tell us that Ottomans were so genrous that gave Greece to Greeks, Bulgaria to Bulgarians, Romania to Romanians etc? oh those Ottomans must have been very generous :wink:
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Postby Murtaza » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:43 am

Piratis wrote:
Piratis Ottomans gaved Greeks some land, how about you give them back?
You know ottomans take that land from venedic not greeks.
I mean I you look past.

What land did Ottomans gave to Greeks? Are you about to tell us that Ottomans were so genrous that gave Greece to Greeks, Bulgaria to Bulgarians, Romania to Romanians etc? oh those Ottomans must have been very generous :wink:


no they take land from venedic and give it greeks.(I mean legally)
What are the greeks when ottoman came to Cyprus?
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Postby gabaston » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:46 am

Ottomans

Why always the ottomans, man you’re obsessed with ottomans. What do you know about ottomans? Have you ever seen an ottoman Do you know an ottoman, have you met one? Have you slept with his daughter? What do you know about ottomans?

You know as much about Ottomans as you do about Alexander the Great, and Julius Caesar, and the dinosaurs.
You know as much about ottomans as I do. All you know is hand me down lectures and propaganda web sites or books, and whatever they taught you in your history lessons.

I can just imagine your history class – Greece was the first nation. Greece educated the world. Greece this, Greece that and everything was nice and luvly then one day the ottomans led by the devil came and the world has been hell ever since –

Man world war two which was started by the cultured peace loving Europeans saw over one hundred million dead, repeat one hundred million and guess what – not a single ottoman in sight.

Most countries had their empires, you lot had one of the first, we had one of the last.

Which empire was built out of humanity ?
The roman, the greek, the Egyptian, USSR, America British French Spanish German which one, please answer this question, just name it directly, do not pass go, do not collect 200 –


If you ever wake up, then welcome to the third millennium.

If you want peace then the negotiating table beckons.
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