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Postby gabaston » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:02 pm

half a dozen incidents?
less than a thousand dead?

Agios how many do you want?

Is there some kind of Eu policy, or official number of dead that justifies or vindicates military action. How many more were supposed to die before someone somewhere done something?
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:17 pm

Piratis wrote:AA, TC did have both dead and missing during that period. However our history is not just a decade. TCs emphasize and magnify this tiny period in our history as an excuse to commit even more crimes against us.

They forget the centuries of Ottoman oppression, and now they are trying to use that one decade as an excuse for a long period of crimes against us (already more than 30 years).


I think you are trying to justify the murderings and ethnic cleansing attempt of T.Cs by G.Cs with the Ottoman period!!! So we should shut our mouths and say nothing, becuase of the centuries of Ottoman oppression....
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Postby garbitsch » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:19 pm

gabaston wrote:half a dozen incidents?
less than a thousand dead?

Agios how many do you want?

Is there some kind of Eu policy, or official number of dead that justifies or vindicates military action. How many more were supposed to die before someone somewhere done something?


I think they need a standard number in order to get convinced that T.Cs were oppressed by G.Cs. For them it's not enough to live in a land for 500 to claim ownership to that land, or if your community had lost less than 1000 lives, then there were no serious murderings... I don't know why, that's just the way they think!
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:11 pm

LANDJO wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but are the TC's not complaining more about continued harrassment than absolute number of killings? The goal was to evict Turks from the island, not to kill them (analogous to Hitler's policy against the Jews)



um no. hitler wantede the extermination of all Jews. im not quite sure where you are getting your history from.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:33 pm

magikthrill wrote:
LANDJO wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but are the TC's not complaining more about continued harrassment than absolute number of killings? The goal was to evict Turks from the island, not to kill them (analogous to Hitler's policy against the Jews)



um no. hitler wantede the extermination of all Jews. im not quite sure where you are getting your history from.


Mr magikthrill

Um. No. Hitler first tried to expel them, but many believed that since they had been living in Germany for generations that THEY were safe.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:37 pm

suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Um. No. Hitler first tried to expel them, but many believed that since they had been living in Germany for generations that THEY were safe.


yes you try telling a jew that hitler's goal was to remove the jews from germany and not exterminate them.
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:39 pm

gabaston wrote:half a dozen incidents?
less than a thousand dead?

Agios how many do you want?

Is there some kind of Eu policy, or official number of dead that justifies or vindicates military action. How many more were supposed to die before someone somewhere done something?



I think there is a wrong here.
Turkey didnt attack cyprus for the people killed....
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Postby detailer » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:44 pm

Murtaza wrote:
gabaston wrote:half a dozen incidents?
less than a thousand dead?

Agios how many do you want?

Is there some kind of Eu policy, or official number of dead that justifies or vindicates military action. How many more were supposed to die before someone somewhere done something?



I think there is a wrong here.
Turkey didnt attack cyprus for the people killed....


:?:
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Postby Murtaza » Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:08 pm

detailer wrote:
Murtaza wrote:
gabaston wrote:half a dozen incidents?
less than a thousand dead?

Agios how many do you want?

Is there some kind of Eu policy, or official number of dead that justifies or vindicates military action. How many more were supposed to die before someone somewhere done something?



I think there is a wrong here.
Turkey didnt attack cyprus for the people killed....


:?:


They came for living people.
So you should count them.

Why should Turkey care for already death people?
War cannot give their life back.
I mean Greeks killed some people.
But They endangered all Turkish lifes.
So you should count that lifes saved.
That is the reason of attack.
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Postby suetoniuspaulinus » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:46 pm

magikthrill wrote:
suetoniuspaulinus wrote:
Um. No. Hitler first tried to expel them, but many believed that since they had been living in Germany for generations that THEY were safe.


yes you try telling a jew that hitler's goal was to remove the jews from germany and not exterminate them.


Mr magikthrill

Good point.

Perhaps you shoul also add Homosexuals, Political Prisoners,
Mentally Ill, Gypsies, Roman Catholics, Russians.....

Estimates for Holocaust Victims are about 11 Million people, Jews accounted for about 6.5 Million.

Most fo the German Jews living in Germany at that time DID NOT BELIEVE IT COULD HAPPEN TO THEM.

Probably much like the TC's who didn't want to leave their homes but were "Forced" by TMT
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