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[Piratis]

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

And do you see anything wrong with the above?

The 1960 "agreements" were forced on the Cypriot people when the foreign invaders of Cyprus (British-Turks) collaborated to oppress the revolution of the Cypriot people and deny to Cypriots their self-determination. The constitution of Cyprus was made by foreigners to serve the interests of those who made it, and not the interests of the Cypriot people.

So where do you see anything wrong with Cypriots seeking their freedom and self-determination on their own island?

The Cyprus Problem is the problem we had for 100s of years and we continue having today: foreign invaders trying to keep our island under their control, and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

Of course, if the Cypriot people where "good slaves" and never revolted and never asked for their freedom there would be "no problem" according to some idiots. But the Cypriot people have every right for their freedom and self-determination, and the Cyprus problem is not the Cypriots people seeking their rights but the Turks and British who send their troops (and their Settlers) on our island, trying to stop Cyprus from being free.

[YFred]

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

And do you see anything wrong with the above?

The 1960 "agreements" were forced on the Cypriot people when the foreign invaders of Cyprus (British-Turks) collaborated to oppress the revolution of the Cypriot people and deny to Cypriots their self-determination. The constitution of Cyprus was made by foreigners to serve the interests of those who made it, and not the interests of the Cypriot people.

So where do you see anything wrong with Cypriots seeking their freedom and self-determination on their own island?

The Cyprus Problem is the problem we had for 100s of years and we continue having today: foreign invaders trying to keep our island under their control, and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

Of course, if the Cypriot people where "good slaves" and never revolted and never asked for their freedom there would be "no problem" according to some idiots. But the Cypriot people have every right for their freedom and self-determination, and the Cyprus problem is not the Cypriots people seeking their rights but the Turks and British who send their troops (and their Settlers) on our island, trying to stop Cyprus from being free.

It smells of a little like the Bush/Blair Plan
1. We need the oil of Iraq.
2 Get the world to think that Iraq has WMD
3. Use that excuse to con UN into attacking Iraq.
4. Between half and one million people dead and possible millions displaced – actual figures yet to find out.

Just like the above plan. It sounds engineered and the beginning of what is termed spin.

[Nikitas]

The AKRITAS plan is a secret weapon with which the TCs on forums will bore GCs to death.

[Piratis]

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

And do you see anything wrong with the above?

The 1960 "agreements" were forced on the Cypriot people when the foreign invaders of Cyprus (British-Turks) collaborated to oppress the revolution of the Cypriot people and deny to Cypriots their self-determination. The constitution of Cyprus was made by foreigners to serve the interests of those who made it, and not the interests of the Cypriot people.

So where do you see anything wrong with Cypriots seeking their freedom and self-determination on their own island?

The Cyprus Problem is the problem we had for 100s of years and we continue having today: foreign invaders trying to keep our island under their control, and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

Of course, if the Cypriot people where "good slaves" and never revolted and never asked for their freedom there would be "no problem" according to some idiots. But the Cypriot people have every right for their freedom and self-determination, and the Cyprus problem is not the Cypriots people seeking their rights but the Turks and British who send their troops (and their Settlers) on our island, trying to stop Cyprus from being free.

It smells of a little like the Bush/Blair Plan
1. We need the oil of Iraq.
2 Get the world to think that Iraq has WMD
3. Use that excuse to con UN into attacking Iraq.
4. Between half and one million people dead and possible millions displaced – actual figures yet to find out.

Just like the above plan. It sounds engineered and the beginning of what is termed spin.

The Bush/Blair/Turkish plans is about finding excuses to invade other countries so you can exploit their people or resources.

Something like the excuse you gave for the Ottomans invading Cyprus, that they invaded Cyprus because their empire was under threat from "Cypriot Pirates". Now that does sound very similar to the invasion of Iraq and the WMD excuse, doesn't it?

On the other hand, all the Cypriot want, and all we ever fought for, is for our freedom and self-determination on our own island. Nothing more.

[YFred]

Thanks, but you know we are all kids at heart. If we can’t have a toy, we will not stop nagging till we get it, and when we do, we'll just put it to one side and look for the next toy.
Why is it so secret though?
Human nature. It would be a boring world without it.

[YFred]

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

And do you see anything wrong with the above?

The 1960 "agreements" were forced on the Cypriot people when the foreign invaders of Cyprus (British-Turks) collaborated to oppress the revolution of the Cypriot people and deny to Cypriots their self-determination. The constitution of Cyprus was made by foreigners to serve the interests of those who made it, and not the interests of the Cypriot people.

So where do you see anything wrong with Cypriots seeking their freedom and self-determination on their own island?

The Cyprus Problem is the problem we had for 100s of years and we continue having today: foreign invaders trying to keep our island under their control, and denying to the Cypriot people their freedom and self-determination.

Of course, if the Cypriot people where "good slaves" and never revolted and never asked for their freedom there would be "no problem" according to some idiots. But the Cypriot people have every right for their freedom and self-determination, and the Cyprus problem is not the Cypriots people seeking their rights but the Turks and British who send their troops (and their Settlers) on our island, trying to stop Cyprus from being free.

It smells of a little like the Bush/Blair Plan
1. We need the oil of Iraq.
2 Get the world to think that Iraq has WMD
3. Use that excuse to con UN into attacking Iraq.
4. Between half and one million people dead and possible millions displaced – actual figures yet to find out.

Just like the above plan. It sounds engineered and the beginning of what is termed spin.

The Bush/Blair/Turkish plans is about finding excuses to invade other countries so you can exploit their people or resources.

Something like the excuse you gave for the Ottomans invading Cyprus, that they invaded Cyprus because their empire was under threat from "Cypriot Pirates". Now that does sound very similar to the invasion of Iraq and the WMD excuse, doesn't it?

On the other hand, all the Cypriot want, and all we ever fought for, is for our freedom and self-determination on our own island. Nothing more.

All I said was they were robbing the ships, don't recollect using the word threat.

You have my sympathy, I always thought that the rivalary between USA and USSR casued the cyprus problem. There are bigger planners out there.

But even if this document just clarifies a few points about the CypProb surely it can do good to bring all cypriots to better understanding of each other. It must be good for the future for all Cypriots.

[Bananiot]

The usual suspects rush to the rescue of Akritas. The plan was written by the late ex president Papadopoulos who was the deputy leader of the Organisation. Giorgadjis was the leader and Makarios along with the state was the fund provider.

Remember only the truth serves the national interests. Those in denial are serving the enemy, in reality.[/code]

[YFred]

The usual suspects rush to the rescue of Akritas. The plan was written by the late ex president Papadopoulos who was the deputy leader of the Organisation. Giorgadjis was the leader and Makarios along with the state was the fund provider.

Remember only the truth serves the national interests. Those in denial are serving the enemy, in reality.[/code]

Yes but, can you get the GC version? Or is the one I found close enough?

[Bananiot]

I have a number of Greek books at home with the plan. I will try to compare the two.