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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby YFred » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:28 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:AKRITAS PLAN

Had you bothered to do a simple search you would’ve found another 20 odd threads by the same name but instead you think you’re very smart by coming up with something we don’t already know about! :roll:

On top of that, you are clueless to the fact that there are at least TWO versions of the alleged Akritas plan, and you have stupidly posted the Turkish Cypriot version that unashamedly omits FIVE SECTIONS that destroys TC claims with the word “Omitted”!!!

YFred wrote: (iii) Omitted

YFred wrote: (passage omitted)

YFred wrote:Tactic to be followed: (Omitted)

YFred wrote: (section omitted)

YFred wrote:3. (Omitted)


Making an idiot of yourself has become a recurring theme…

Get OFF the CyProb loser!

Why not then offer us the original to clear the air as it were. Get off CYProb? Come now GR, you are not being very neighbourly. I am after enlightenment not just for me but also my friend Oracle. Either help or butt out.

I can make you one promise though, I will as soon as it is solved.
Can you at least fill in the omitted bits, then.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:30 am

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:the full text of the Akritas Plan has been
published as United Nations document A/33/115-S/12722 of 30 May 1978)

Zan is salivating again... be careful not to get your knickers in a twist Zanny before declaring that the UN "published it"... READ AGAIN!

All evidence, must be considered, so long as its connected.
Perhaps you can furnish us with the original, is that too painful to consider.

You are in no position to evaluate any evidence. I have proven again and again, that you are nothing but a time wasting fool who should do much MORE READING from CREDIBLE SOURCES, and far less posting.

Quit embarrassing yourself.
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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:32 am

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:AKRITAS PLAN

Had you bothered to do a simple search you would’ve found another 20 odd threads by the same name but instead you think you’re very smart by coming up with something we don’t already know about! :roll:

On top of that, you are clueless to the fact that there are at least TWO versions of the alleged Akritas plan, and you have stupidly posted the Turkish Cypriot version that unashamedly omits FIVE SECTIONS that destroys TC claims with the word “Omitted”!!!

YFred wrote: (iii) Omitted

YFred wrote: (passage omitted)

YFred wrote:Tactic to be followed: (Omitted)

YFred wrote: (section omitted)

YFred wrote:3. (Omitted)


Making an idiot of yourself has become a recurring theme…

Get OFF the CyProb loser!

Why not then offer us the original to clear the air as it were. Get off CYProb? Come now GR, you are not being very neighbourly. I am after enlightenment not just for me but also my friend Oracle. Either help or butt out.

I can make you one promise though, I will as soon as it is solved.
Can you at least fill in the omitted bits, then.

Go back and read all the discussions on this issue and stop wasting people's time with old stories.
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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby YFred » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:40 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:AKRITAS PLAN

Had you bothered to do a simple search you would’ve found another 20 odd threads by the same name but instead you think you’re very smart by coming up with something we don’t already know about! :roll:

On top of that, you are clueless to the fact that there are at least TWO versions of the alleged Akritas plan, and you have stupidly posted the Turkish Cypriot version that unashamedly omits FIVE SECTIONS that destroys TC claims with the word “Omitted”!!!

YFred wrote: (iii) Omitted

YFred wrote: (passage omitted)

YFred wrote:Tactic to be followed: (Omitted)

YFred wrote: (section omitted)

YFred wrote:3. (Omitted)


Making an idiot of yourself has become a recurring theme…

Get OFF the CyProb loser!

Why not then offer us the original to clear the air as it were. Get off CYProb? Come now GR, you are not being very neighbourly. I am after enlightenment not just for me but also my friend Oracle. Either help or butt out.

I can make you one promise though, I will as soon as it is solved.
Can you at least fill in the omitted bits, then.

Go back and read all the discussions on this issue and stop wasting people's time with old stories.

As you say, I like to go to the source, Where is the original?
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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:44 am

YFred wrote:As you say, I like to go to the source, Where is the original?

All you queries are answered, if not by me then by someone else, so just do a search for "akritas plan" and check the "look for all key words" option, for enough material to keep you busy for the next six months.
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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby YFred » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:53 am

Get Real! wrote:
YFred wrote:As you say, I like to go to the source, Where is the original?

All you queries are answered, if not by me then by someone else, so just do a search for "akritas plan" and check the "look for all key words" option, for enough material to keep you busy for the next six months.

I see a cunning plan at hand to keep yfred busy for six months baldric? The problem with you is that you couldn’t see a cunning plan even if it hit you 100million miles per hour in the face, your lowness.
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Re: Akritas Plan

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 04, 2009 11:59 am

YFred wrote:I see a cunning plan at hand to keep yfred busy for six months baldric? The problem with you is that you couldn’t see a cunning plan even if it hit you 100million miles per hour in the face, your lowness.

Are you meant to be that “cunning plan” Y-Fronts? Because so far all you manage is to lower yourself at your community’s expense… think about it. :roll:
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:00 pm

The existence and the authors of the AKRITAS plan are well known and documented......THAT IS A FACT>>>>>




Let GR do the leg work and as he is in the "RoC" he can go see the news paper in question and either ask for a copy of the report or written evidence that they retract what they wrote then....He asks for eveidence of the PLAN with Tpaps finger prints and signature.....What a bloody plonker!! :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:18 pm

zan wrote:The existence and the authors of the AKRITAS plan are well known and documented......THAT IS A FACT>>>>>




Let GR do the leg work and as he is in the "RoC" he can go see the news paper in question and either ask for a copy of the report or written evidence that they retract what they wrote then....He asks for eveidence of the PLAN with Tpaps finger prints and signature.....What a bloody plonker!! :roll:

UN document A/33/115-S/12722

“Letter dated 30 May 1978 from the Permanent Representative of Turkey
to the United Nations addressed to the Secretary-General”


http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/ ... penElement

See how easy it is for the UN to "publish" the Akritas plan according to Turkish Cypriots? :)


In future use this search engine for UN documents…

http://documents.un.org/globalE.html


Do a search for "A/33/115-S/12722" via the link above.
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Postby YFred » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:19 pm

Comment - Everything you need to know about the Akritas plan
By Loucas Charalambous
(archive article - Sunday, April 17, 2005)
THE MOST important document there is about the Cyprus problem is the ‘Akritas’ plan. It is incontrovertible testimony as to how the Cyprus problem was created in the form it has had for the last 42 years. Nobody should be allowed to talk about the Cyprus problem if he has not read the ‘Akritas’ plan.

Of course, most Greek Cypriots are completely in the dark about the history of their country’s troubles, something which constantly pushes them into making new mistakes. I would bet my life that among the hundreds of clueless and uneducated characters who appear in the media every day as journalists – supposedly to inform the public – you will not find 10 who would have read this document, which is the key to understanding the Cyprus problem. This bitter truth alone explains why we Greek Cypriots are rooted to a primitive level of politics.

In reality, the Cyprus problem was brought into being by this idiotic and nationally catastrophic plan. A plan, which, in Demetris Christofias’ phraseology, would have been describe as treasonous. It is a glowing monument of political stupidity and irresponsibility. The very same man who had signed the Treaty of Establishment for this state and his ministers, as soon as this state came into being, began plotting its dissolution. And for this purpose they set up an illegal organisation. Only in the minds of a Makarios, a Papadopoulos, a Yiorkadjis, a Kyprianou and a Lyssarides could such paranoid politics have found fertile ground.

The gist of this insane plan is included in the following few lines:

Stage 1: Create of the impression among international public opinion, that the Cyprus issue had not been solved correctly and condemn of the Treaty of Guarantee, “the first target of our attack”.

Stage 2: Seek amendment of negative elements of the agreements by all means. “We can even justify unilateral action.”

Stage 3: “Following the above action, the Treaty of Guarantee (right of interventions) is rendered legally and substantively unenforceable”.

Stage 4: “With Cyprus freed (from the treaties of Alliance and Guarantee) the people would be enabled to express and implement their desire.”

Stage 5: “Lawful confrontation by the forces of the state (police and friendly military troops) of any intervention from within or from outside because then we would be completely independent.”

This plan was not put together by people who had escaped from a mental hospital, as some may think. Its writers made it obvious that they knew very well they were playing with fire. The only parts of the document which are written in block capitals are those informing the recipients that leaking of it was tantamount to “high treason” and urging members of the organisation of their obligation to “destroy by fire”, once it had been read. They were obviously concerned that the Turks might have got wind of it.

This was the great plan, with which Mr Papadopoulos – the deputy chief of Akritas – and his fellow-fighters destroyed the Cyprus Republic, which, as he discovered 40 years later, by his own admission, was a “blessed solution”, even better than joining the EU. The achievement of Papadopoulos’ and his organisation’s national activities was truly impressive.

Within a few days, they had created the enclave between Nicosia and Kyrenia, in which they compressed a large number of the Turkish Cypriots. They laid the foundations of partition. Ten years later, the enclave was used by the Turkish invasion force as a bridgehead for its landing in Cyprus and, expanded by the troops, it evolved in the ‘Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus’.

And now that readers know who had written, in Greek, the pro-Turkish Akritas plan, they should – to use Papadopoulos’ immortal words – “judge for themselves if this helped the Hellenism of Cyprus or our case…”



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