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[insan]

The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.

Did you go round and survey everyone to determine that because you seem to have missed my family for one so…

Quit presenting assumptions as facts!

Show me just a single joint movement, joint action, joint declaration etc that proves we have been a Cypriot nation. Come with credible evidences. Moreover there r so many surveys that clearly reveal the fact that overwhelming majority of Cypriots never considered ownselves as one nation in sense of nationality.

[Get Real!]

The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.

Did you go round and survey everyone to determine that because you seem to have missed my family for one so…

Quit presenting assumptions as facts!

Show me just a single joint movement, joint action, joint declaration etc that proves we have been a Cypriot nation. Come with credible evidences. Moreover there r so many surveys that clearly reveal the fact that overwhelming majority of Cypriots never considered ownselves as one nation in sense of nationality or citizenship.

My family have always JOINTLY and UNANIMOUSLY believed and felt that they were Cypriots, descendants of the ancient Choirokitians, living in the nation of Cyprus, so that puts your “argument” (which you pinched from someone else) to sleep… bye-bye!

[zan]

The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.

Did you go round and survey everyone to determine that because you seem to have missed my family for one so…

Quit presenting assumptions as facts!

Show me just a single joint movement, joint action, joint declaration etc that proves we have been a Cypriot nation. Come with credible evidences. Moreover there r so many surveys that clearly reveal the fact that overwhelming majority of Cypriots never considered ownselves as one nation in sense of nationality or citizenship.

My family have always JOINTLY and UNANIMOUSLY believed and felt that they were Cypriots, descendants of the ancient Choirokitians, living in the nation of Cyprus, so that puts your “argument” (which you pinched from someone else) to sleep… bye-bye!

Quit presenting assumptions as facts Unless you have positive proof that you can trace your family tree that far back.......

[insan]

The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.

Did you go round and survey everyone to determine that because you seem to have missed my family for one so…

Quit presenting assumptions as facts!

Show me just a single joint movement, joint action, joint declaration etc that proves we have been a Cypriot nation. Come with credible evidences. Moreover there r so many surveys that clearly reveal the fact that overwhelming majority of Cypriots never considered ownselves as one nation in sense of nationality or citizenship.

My family have always JOINTLY and UNANIMOUSLY believed and felt that they were Cypriots, descendants of the ancient Choirokitians, living in the nation of Cyprus, so that puts your “argument” (which you pinched from someone else) to sleep… bye-bye!

Whose national anthem sing ur family during the "national" days of "RoC"? Choirokitian or Hellenes?

The village of Choirokoitia was suddenly abandoned for reasons unknown at around 6000 BC and it seems that the island remained uninhabited for about 1.500 years until the next recorded entity, the Sotira group.

[Get Real!]

The village of Choirokoitia was suddenly abandoned for reasons unknown at around 6000 BC and it seems that the island remained uninhabited for about 1.500 years until the next recorded entity, the Sotira group.

Which means that more excavation work needs to be done if they want to see more continuity, or did you foolishly assume that everything has stopped because we’ve already figured everything out about Cyprus?

Now, going back to your sweeping statement...

“Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.”

I have informed you of AT LEAST ONE CYPRIOT FAMILY for which you are wrong thereby rendering your argument invalid, so let me know when you are ready to RETRACT your misinformation.

[insan]

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Choirokoitia

The population of the village at any one time is thought not to have exceeded 300 to 600 inhabitants. The people were rather short - the men about 1.61 m on average and the women about 1.51 m. Infant mortality was very high and life expectancy was about 22 years. On average adult men reached 35 years of age and women 33. The dead were buried in crouched positions just under the floors of the houses. In some instances provision was made for offerings so presumably a form of ancestor cult existed inside households.

http://www.mlahanas.de/Cyprus/Geo/Choirokoitia.html

Anyone has seen GR! now can confirm whether he and his family is Choirokoitian or not.

[Get Real!]

Quit presenting assumptions as facts Unless you have positive proof that you can trace your family tree that far back.......

I only have to worry about MY family, but poor Insan has decided to speak on behalf of EVERY SINGLE CYPRIOT FAMILY from the beginning of time!

Good luck proving your assumption Insan… you’ve got better chances winning lotto!

[miltiades]

Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !!

If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!!

Perhaps we can sue for miss-representation.. The southern government should be called RoGC

Fred , surely you must fully appreciate that the entire world community sees Cyprus as one island part of which is under the occupation of Turkey. Thousands of T/Cs share the views of " Africa" that Cyprus is one and that the foreign occupiers are not welcome on our soil.
Cyprus is NOT GREEK CYPRUS any more than it is TURKIS CYPRUS. This island has a history stretching back more than 10 thousand years , many invaders came and departed and this island was NEVER called either Greek Island or Turkish Island. Those Cypriots , G/Cs or T/Cs who have as their motherlands the foreign countries of Greece and Turkey ought to consider a permanent move to these countries. Our nation is that of Cyprus , dont like it then move out and dont anyone ever think that Turkey will continue the occupation for eternity because the proud T/Cs will not allow it to continue.

THERE ARE NO MAJORITIES OR MINORITIES IN CYPRUS , ONLY CYPRIOTS AND BLOODY FOREIGNERS WHO WANT TO GIFT OUR ISLAND TO THEIR PERCEIVED POXY BLOODY MOTHERLANDS.

The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation. They couldn't because of many reasons. The main reason is the historical background of Turks and Hellenes that is full of wars and hatred. When someone cites he or she is Cypriot, he or she mention the birth place and where grown up.

There r Cypriots that desire Cyprus to be unified as one under a Federal State governed by a "consociational democracy" not u and ur alikes interprete as "majority rule".

Since both "motherlands" r part of western alliance and due to this fact Greece and "RoC" became a part of US founded EU. What interests had/has Greece on Cyprus? None? So what interests US founded EU has on Cyprus? Just the the beautiful beaches and landscape of Cyprus? Or none? What interests has Turkey on Cyprus? Any different than what others in alliance had/have? Hope this time u answer my questiones.

Just a very simple question to you Insan. Prior to 1571 and the arrival of the Ottomans in Cyprus , what did the people of Cyprus considered themselves to be , Martians , Egyptians or maybe Zombies.
They were bloody Cypriots mate , those that deny our nation ought to depart from these shores , we are and always have been Cypriots. Those that insist on the nonsense that there is no such entity as a Cypriot ought to study History , they will find out that the people of Cyprus were recognised as Cypriots by the Persian Empire , the Roman Empire before and by all other occupying forces that ruled Cyprus.What gives the Turks of Turkey the right to deny the T/Cs their Cypriotness. Yes mate , Cyprus exists and is recognised by every single international body as the home of the Cypriot people.
Why on earth should someone who has as his motherland one of the two cancers inflicting our nation deny me and my ancestors our heritage.
Those that deny the existence of Cyprus are the partitionists , the Enosis seekers and the bloody foreigners who would do Cyprus a great favour by pissing off to their third world motherlands.
I do hope I have made my self clear.
LONG LIVE CYPRUS THE LAND OF THE CYPRIOTS.