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[denizaksulu]

Kadının fendi, erkeği yendi

trans: The ladies' 'ruse', defeated the man.

Mufti Deniz ... Shall I insist on an apology or shall I show mercy?

Showing mercy will infuriate him. He is too small to apologise. Its up to you.

deniz kucuk olan sensin. savundugun kisinin daha once yazdiklarini okumamis gibisin. yazik.
trans: go read other threads and be fair. you seem like you haven't read other threads at all. you are incredible.(like the translation in Davos )

I would not take all comments on the threads seriously. I have read them all. I know what Turks call us Turkish Cypriots. Not very pleasant. So dont begin lecturing me. If you show respect you will get it. Grow up.

you show respect to that creature and get kicked out of your country. bana durup dururken hakaret eden yaratıga saygi gostermicem sorry. good night grown up.

Goodmorning 'Runsaway'.

What you have to do is put yourself in Oracles and other GCs shoes.

They have had their homes lost and resettled with foreigners to Cyprus. Would you not also be as angry? If someone came and took your home away from you and kicked you out, would you be celebrating? Why should Oracle not be angry at Turks and Turkey? Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage, does not mean a free for all. We could have (Cypriots that is; not Turkey or Greece) negotiated a proper deal, without outside interference. The way I see things is : Turkey, ' Kaş yapayım derken, göz çıkardı'. Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974, to send her forces in, but the days of conquest has long been gone. Turkey has stopped Enosis, now Turkey should let us negotiate a peaceful solution.

Perhaps you remember the immortal words: Ne mümkün zülm ıle bidad ıle imha-yı Hürriyet...............vb. This does not only apply to Turkish speakers. It should apply to anyone.

Selam

nice to hear these: Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage... Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974.

have a good day and keep your energy at claiming your rights against those who try to exclude your people at every occasion.

We are not allowed to be angry for losing our lives and our homes and our dignity in Cyprus....Turkey Turkey Turkey.....Even our own lot have been brain washed into thinking that Greece has no say in what the "RoC" does....The GCs are angry but we have to remain subservient. Oracle has an excuse but we haven't....Lets forget the problems and let the GCs have everything..FFS

Don't forget to take some broken glass to put into your coffee Deniz......Internal self flagellation seems to be what you are after

No one has denied you the right to be angry Zan. Yes, we are angry for what was attempted against us. They also have the right to be angry what Turkey did to them. Its a pity that such a sensitive guy like you uses the word 'empathy'. Perhaps you dont use that word. You should try it. The suggestion that you accuse me of being btainwashed is erroneous. My feelings of the strife in 1974 began on the eve of the Peace Operation. I knew it was not going to be a tea party.

If I said Oracle has an excuse for her postings, does not mean that we dont. What I disagree with is to gain by the use of force.

That you brand me just because I do not follow your line is sad. I am saying that we negotiate and not give our rights away and secure our guarantees regarding our security. That I leave to decent politicians.


I think I will ignore your advice on the glass. Thank you.

Have a good day,

That they should gain from our "misfortune" is what I am angry about Deniz but you don't seem to be....I value our losses the same as theirs...No more no less....There is a standoff.....No one is better or worse off than the other.....If they have our liberty then they must be prepared to give up their land.....

I can see their tactics of wanting the lot and making us feel bad working.....Miltiades is the so called "best" at at least trying to make us feel that way.....I will not allow their superiority complex to ride ruff shot over me...If they want to talk as two equal and proud people then I am more than willing...If they want to talk down to me then they had better cover up......

Look Zan. There should be no gainers nor losers in this sorry state we ALL find ourselves in. At the mo, the only gainers are those 'Ganimetci'.

Off to do something useful elsewhere.

Good day

[zan]

Kadının fendi, erkeği yendi

trans: The ladies' 'ruse', defeated the man.

Mufti Deniz ... Shall I insist on an apology or shall I show mercy?

Showing mercy will infuriate him. He is too small to apologise. Its up to you.

deniz kucuk olan sensin. savundugun kisinin daha once yazdiklarini okumamis gibisin. yazik.
trans: go read other threads and be fair. you seem like you haven't read other threads at all. you are incredible.(like the translation in Davos )

I would not take all comments on the threads seriously. I have read them all. I know what Turks call us Turkish Cypriots. Not very pleasant. So dont begin lecturing me. If you show respect you will get it. Grow up.

you show respect to that creature and get kicked out of your country. bana durup dururken hakaret eden yaratıga saygi gostermicem sorry. good night grown up.

Goodmorning 'Runsaway'.

What you have to do is put yourself in Oracles and other GCs shoes.

They have had their homes lost and resettled with foreigners to Cyprus. Would you not also be as angry? If someone came and took your home away from you and kicked you out, would you be celebrating? Why should Oracle not be angry at Turks and Turkey? Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage, does not mean a free for all. We could have (Cypriots that is; not Turkey or Greece) negotiated a proper deal, without outside interference. The way I see things is : Turkey, ' Kaş yapayım derken, göz çıkardı'. Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974, to send her forces in, but the days of conquest has long been gone. Turkey has stopped Enosis, now Turkey should let us negotiate a peaceful solution.

Perhaps you remember the immortal words: Ne mümkün zülm ıle bidad ıle imha-yı Hürriyet...............vb. This does not only apply to Turkish speakers. It should apply to anyone.

Selam

nice to hear these: Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage... Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974.

have a good day and keep your energy at claiming your rights against those who try to exclude your people at every occasion.

We are not allowed to be angry for losing our lives and our homes and our dignity in Cyprus....Turkey Turkey Turkey.....Even our own lot have been brain washed into thinking that Greece has no say in what the "RoC" does....The GCs are angry but we have to remain subservient. Oracle has an excuse but we haven't....Lets forget the problems and let the GCs have everything..FFS

Don't forget to take some broken glass to put into your coffee Deniz......Internal self flagellation seems to be what you are after

No one has denied you the right to be angry Zan. Yes, we are angry for what was attempted against us. They also have the right to be angry what Turkey did to them. Its a pity that such a sensitive guy like you uses the word 'empathy'. Perhaps you dont use that word. You should try it. The suggestion that you accuse me of being btainwashed is erroneous. My feelings of the strife in 1974 began on the eve of the Peace Operation. I knew it was not going to be a tea party.

If I said Oracle has an excuse for her postings, does not mean that we dont. What I disagree with is to gain by the use of force.

That you brand me just because I do not follow your line is sad. I am saying that we negotiate and not give our rights away and secure our guarantees regarding our security. That I leave to decent politicians.


I think I will ignore your advice on the glass. Thank you.

Have a good day,

That they should gain from our "misfortune" is what I am angry about Deniz but you don't seem to be....I value our losses the same as theirs...No more no less....There is a standoff.....No one is better or worse off than the other.....If they have our liberty then they must be prepared to give up their land.....

I can see their tactics of wanting the lot and making us feel bad working.....Miltiades is the so called "best" at at least trying to make us feel that way.....I will not allow their superiority complex to ride ruff shot over me...If they want to talk as two equal and proud people then I am more than willing...If they want to talk down to me then they had better cover up......

Look Zan. There should be no gainers nor losers in this sorry state we ALL find ourselves in. At the mo, the only gainers are those 'Ganimetci'.

Off to do something useful elsewhere.

Good day

The superiority complex seems to be catching as well


What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger. You think you are doing good and I am doing bad...Perhaps you need to open up to all because you are getting so insular and over sympathetic.....If those involved were to show more that they are not only able to see the realities of life but to actually be listening to me and mine then I am with you but they are not....It is only fair that I let them know what it is that I want and will not compromise on...They have to give up on the policies that they started even before the Zurich agreement was signed. I am not a person looking to find privileged status in my own country but a partner in my own destiny and relationship with Cyprus.....You seem to be happy with securing your tenancy with a rent book supplied by the Greeks...I want to collect the rent along with my partner.....Or he can bugger off to is part of the house and I to mine.

[denizaksulu]

Kadının fendi, erkeği yendi

trans: The ladies' 'ruse', defeated the man.

Mufti Deniz ... Shall I insist on an apology or shall I show mercy?

Showing mercy will infuriate him. He is too small to apologise. Its up to you.

deniz kucuk olan sensin. savundugun kisinin daha once yazdiklarini okumamis gibisin. yazik.
trans: go read other threads and be fair. you seem like you haven't read other threads at all. you are incredible.(like the translation in Davos )

I would not take all comments on the threads seriously. I have read them all. I know what Turks call us Turkish Cypriots. Not very pleasant. So dont begin lecturing me. If you show respect you will get it. Grow up.

you show respect to that creature and get kicked out of your country. bana durup dururken hakaret eden yaratıga saygi gostermicem sorry. good night grown up.

Goodmorning 'Runsaway'.

What you have to do is put yourself in Oracles and other GCs shoes.

They have had their homes lost and resettled with foreigners to Cyprus. Would you not also be as angry? If someone came and took your home away from you and kicked you out, would you be celebrating? Why should Oracle not be angry at Turks and Turkey? Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage, does not mean a free for all. We could have (Cypriots that is; not Turkey or Greece) negotiated a proper deal, without outside interference. The way I see things is : Turkey, ' Kaş yapayım derken, göz çıkardı'. Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974, to send her forces in, but the days of conquest has long been gone. Turkey has stopped Enosis, now Turkey should let us negotiate a peaceful solution.

Perhaps you remember the immortal words: Ne mümkün zülm ıle bidad ıle imha-yı Hürriyet...............vb. This does not only apply to Turkish speakers. It should apply to anyone.

Selam

nice to hear these: Just because they had behaved in a way which was to our disadvantage... Turkey may have been justified at the time in 1974.

have a good day and keep your energy at claiming your rights against those who try to exclude your people at every occasion.

We are not allowed to be angry for losing our lives and our homes and our dignity in Cyprus....Turkey Turkey Turkey.....Even our own lot have been brain washed into thinking that Greece has no say in what the "RoC" does....The GCs are angry but we have to remain subservient. Oracle has an excuse but we haven't....Lets forget the problems and let the GCs have everything..FFS

Don't forget to take some broken glass to put into your coffee Deniz......Internal self flagellation seems to be what you are after

No one has denied you the right to be angry Zan. Yes, we are angry for what was attempted against us. They also have the right to be angry what Turkey did to them. Its a pity that such a sensitive guy like you uses the word 'empathy'. Perhaps you dont use that word. You should try it. The suggestion that you accuse me of being btainwashed is erroneous. My feelings of the strife in 1974 began on the eve of the Peace Operation. I knew it was not going to be a tea party.

If I said Oracle has an excuse for her postings, does not mean that we dont. What I disagree with is to gain by the use of force.

That you brand me just because I do not follow your line is sad. I am saying that we negotiate and not give our rights away and secure our guarantees regarding our security. That I leave to decent politicians.


I think I will ignore your advice on the glass. Thank you.

Have a good day,

That they should gain from our "misfortune" is what I am angry about Deniz but you don't seem to be....I value our losses the same as theirs...No more no less....There is a standoff.....No one is better or worse off than the other.....If they have our liberty then they must be prepared to give up their land.....

I can see their tactics of wanting the lot and making us feel bad working.....Miltiades is the so called "best" at at least trying to make us feel that way.....I will not allow their superiority complex to ride ruff shot over me...If they want to talk as two equal and proud people then I am more than willing...If they want to talk down to me then they had better cover up......

Look Zan. There should be no gainers nor losers in this sorry state we ALL find ourselves in. At the mo, the only gainers are those 'Ganimetci'.

Off to do something useful elsewhere.

Good day

The superiority complex seems to be catching as well


What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger. You think you are doing good and I am doing bad...Perhaps you need to open up to all because you are getting so insular and over sympathetic.....If those involved were to show more that they are not only able to see the realities of life but to actually be listening to me and mine then I am with you but they are not....It is only fair that I let them know what it is that I want and will not compromise on...They have to give up on the policies that they started even before the Zurich agreement was signed. I am not a person looking to find privileged status in my own country but a partner in my own destiny and relationship with Cyprus.....You seem to be happy with securing your tenancy with a rent book supplied by the Greeks...I want to collect the rent along with my partner.....Or he can bugger off to is part of the house and I to mine.

Have you quite finished yet? (I doubt it),; then we can both bugger off to our UK residences. I, because I am a refugee, you because...whatever

[Get Real!]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence!

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

[miltiades]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

Shouldnt "fare" be fair ?

[Get Real!]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

Shouldnt "fare" be fair ?

I've done that a million times...

[CBBB]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

Shouldnt "fare" be fair ?

I've done that a million times...

Milti is only asking because now that he has his bus pass he doesn't know if he is avoiding the fare or the fair!

[Get Real!]

Milti is only asking because now that he has his bus pass he doesn't know if he is avoiding the fare or the fair!

That's fare enough... he may not have enough fair!

[insan]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence!

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

What u ignorantly call "favouritism" is officially known as "consociationalism".

[zan]

What gets my goat are those seeing an ideal as an option in the complicated Cyprus problem.....No one should lose and no one should gain is an impossibility. Compromise and restraint is what is needed....Not Idealistic rants that only help to fuel the anger.

This is 2009, and here we are often talking about democracy yet you still go on about segregationist percentages and that… how do you differ from the people of the past?

You call the Cyprus problem “complicated”… well you’re damn right it’s complicated if some insist on favoritism and reject a fare & square democracy.

In 1960, favoritism was granted to the Turkish Cypriots without the consent of the Greek Cypriots via a democratic referendum, and what did you gain from it? Violence!

In 2009, what are your leaders aiming for? Favoritism again! So what have they learned from the past? NOTHING!

Violence because of the AKRITAS plan and the want of ENOSIS mate...Get rid of that and we have harmony with two people....It is easy to wreck but it could have been just as easy to build....With the right will...Your democracy will not work either because you still have not got the will to make it work....

Deniz.....I am not finished no....As one refugee to another...I matter as well...You have no right to give away what is mine...