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Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:04 pm

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miltiades wrote:What a pair of Plonkers :lol: :lol:

Yeah... :( just pull up your Y-fronts and grab a chair...


Now why would they incorporate a Y front on incontinence pants??? :?

Psychological… keeps the old geezers hopeful.

Noticed how you two Plonkers fall into each others arms at a drop of a ..clanger !! :lol:
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Postby zan » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:14 pm

miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !! :lol: :lol:


If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!! 8)
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Postby YFred » Mon Feb 02, 2009 6:28 pm

zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !! :lol: :lol:


If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!! 8)

Perhaps we can sue for miss-representation.. The southern government should be called RoGC
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Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:22 pm

YFred wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !! :lol: :lol:


If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!! 8)

Perhaps we can sue for miss-representation.. The southern government should be called RoGC

Fred , surely you must fully appreciate that the entire world community sees Cyprus as one island part of which is under the occupation of Turkey. Thousands of T/Cs share the views of " Africa" that Cyprus is one and that the foreign occupiers are not welcome on our soil.
Cyprus is NOT GREEK CYPRUS any more than it is TURKIS CYPRUS. This island has a history stretching back more than 10 thousand years , many invaders came and departed and this island was NEVER called either Greek Island or Turkish Island. Those Cypriots , G/Cs or T/Cs who have as their motherlands the foreign countries of Greece and Turkey ought to consider a permanent move to these countries. Our nation is that of Cyprus , dont like it then move out and dont anyone ever think that Turkey will continue the occupation for eternity because the proud T/Cs will not allow it to continue.

THERE ARE NO MAJORITIES OR MINORITIES IN CYPRUS , ONLY CYPRIOTS AND BLOODY FOREIGNERS WHO WANT TO GIFT OUR ISLAND TO THEIR PERCEIVED POXY BLOODY MOTHERLANDS.
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Postby runaway » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:44 pm

[quote="miltiades"]Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT.quote]

Why should be the case of TRNC be different from that of Kosovo? You may not want to recognize Kosovo but it's there with its borders, flag, constitution. You may not want to call Makedonija with its proper name but the country is still Makedonija. Actually 200+ countries call it Makedonija but there is no such country for you. Greeks are probably the worst neighbours one could ever dream of. You simply don't know how to get along. No need to mention how you treat the Albanians....
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Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:59 pm

runaway wrote:
miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT.quote]

Why should be the case of TRNC be different from that of Kosovo? You may not want to recognize Kosovo but it's there with its borders, flag, constitution. You may not want to call Makedonija with its proper name but the country is still Makedonija. Actually 200+ countries call it Makedonija but there is no such country for you. Greeks are probably the worst neighbours one could ever dream of. You simply don't know how to get along. No need to mention how you treat the Albanians....

Listen foreigner , I'm not a Greek neither do I particularly bother myself with either Kosovo . Makedonia or how the Greeks treat Albanians or indeed how the Turks treat the Kurds. I'm a Cypriot who cares that a part of my country , not yours foreigner but mine , is under the occupation of a foreign country.
May I ask , what is a foreigner doing poking his / her nose into the affairs of Cyprus.
Read my signature foreigner , it derives from the T/C Newspaper Africa .
ps. Neither Kosovo nor Makedonia is under the occupation of a third world country didn't you know !!
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Postby insan » Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:59 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !! :lol: :lol:


If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!! 8)

Perhaps we can sue for miss-representation.. The southern government should be called RoGC

Fred , surely you must fully appreciate that the entire world community sees Cyprus as one island part of which is under the occupation of Turkey. Thousands of T/Cs share the views of " Africa" that Cyprus is one and that the foreign occupiers are not welcome on our soil.
Cyprus is NOT GREEK CYPRUS any more than it is TURKIS CYPRUS. This island has a history stretching back more than 10 thousand years , many invaders came and departed and this island was NEVER called either Greek Island or Turkish Island. Those Cypriots , G/Cs or T/Cs who have as their motherlands the foreign countries of Greece and Turkey ought to consider a permanent move to these countries. Our nation is that of Cyprus , dont like it then move out and dont anyone ever think that Turkey will continue the occupation for eternity because the proud T/Cs will not allow it to continue.

THERE ARE NO MAJORITIES OR MINORITIES IN CYPRUS , ONLY CYPRIOTS AND BLOODY FOREIGNERS WHO WANT TO GIFT OUR ISLAND TO THEIR PERCEIVED POXY BLOODY MOTHERLANDS.


The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation. They couldn't because of many reasons. The main reason is the historical background of Turks and Hellenes that is full of wars and hatred. When someone cites he or she is Cypriot, he or she mention the birth place and where grown up.

There r Cypriots that desire Cyprus to be unified as one under a Federal State governed by a "consociational democracy" not u and ur alikes interprete as "majority rule".

Since both "motherlands" r part of western alliance and due to this fact Greece and "RoC" became a part of US founded EU. What interests had/has Greece on Cyprus? None? So what interests US founded EU has on Cyprus? Just the the beautiful beaches and landscape of Cyprus? Or none? What interests has Turkey on Cyprus? Any different than what others in alliance had/have? Hope this time u answer my questiones. :wink:
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Postby YFred » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:00 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
zan wrote:
miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT. THERE IS ONLY ONE LEGAL CYPRIOT GOVERNMENT AND THAT IS THE GLORIOUS TRNC , you don't believe me ask Turkey who created it !!
Q Zan are you saying that the entire world community is wrong and you along with Turkey are correct.
A. The so called "entire community " is just a figment of your imagination , in fact every single "UN "member nation is just that , pie in the sky , long live the glorious TRNC , passports or no passports , currency or no currency !! :lol: :lol:


If you were that honest man you claim to be then you would tell them all they were wrong also....there is nly one constitution in Cyprus and that is the Zurich agreement.....If not then there is the "RoC" and the TRNC...As long as you do not recognise me then it will always be the "RoC".....If not...Then return to the Zurich agreement and return the stolen goods you EOKA scum!!!! 8)

Perhaps we can sue for miss-representation.. The southern government should be called RoGC

Fred , surely you must fully appreciate that the entire world community sees Cyprus as one island part of which is under the occupation of Turkey. Thousands of T/Cs share the views of " Africa" that Cyprus is one and that the foreign occupiers are not welcome on our soil.
Cyprus is NOT GREEK CYPRUS any more than it is TURKIS CYPRUS. This island has a history stretching back more than 10 thousand years , many invaders came and departed and this island was NEVER called either Greek Island or Turkish Island. Those Cypriots , G/Cs or T/Cs who have as their motherlands the foreign countries of Greece and Turkey ought to consider a permanent move to these countries. Our nation is that of Cyprus , dont like it then move out and dont anyone ever think that Turkey will continue the occupation for eternity because the proud T/Cs will not allow it to continue.

THERE ARE NO MAJORITIES OR MINORITIES IN CYPRUS , ONLY CYPRIOTS AND BLOODY FOREIGNERS WHO WANT TO GIFT OUR ISLAND TO THEIR PERCEIVED POXY BLOODY MOTHERLANDS.

Miltiades,
We have no quarrel on being only Cypriot, I have stopped referring to myself as TC about 20 years agowhen I met Ozgur, until I came on to this forum and faced the GC racists. The issues are little more complicated than you portray them. In one of my posts, I said both sides should hold a referendum and find out who wants enosis and taksim. They should then be identified and packed away to their respective countries. Obviously this cannot be done and it was said in a tongue in cheek fashion but it shows you that our thoughts are not that different.

There is plenty of people that have changed their minds about the presence of Turkey and I am one of them. I used to think like you. But I also appreciate that Greece and Turkey played their part in getting us where we are today with the help of the Americans. The issue I have is that the plot got out of control and the lunatics took over the asylum as it were, particularly the Sampsons lot. I have no doubt that if Turkey did not intervene, then they would have killed 10s of thousands and kicked out the rest. The talks must address the security issue and GC fanatics cannot have a second chance to achieve what they failed to do in 74. Although I respect Africa and the reporters there, who risked their lives to get news to us when the patitionists were at their strongest, I find Cyprus mail easier to read and closer to me politically. But I must stress that I don’t agree with everything they say.

Remove all soldiers from Cyprus if you like including GC and TC, but the Guaranty must remain. We simply cannot rely on the UN to protect us. They have proved themselves to be totally impotent of any action.

I don’t buy the idea that 74 plot was only carried out by 1000 greeks and they were just joined by some eoka-b members. I sometimes wander how things would have turned out, if GC’s instead firing on the Turks, just did nothing and welcomed them to overthrow the dictatorship, would they have displaced so many?

There is huge amount of information being kept from the Cypriot population about who did what, where and when, which is why a truth commission is so vital for the healing process. Not only to find the missing and give them decent burial so that their families can have a closure, but the living can also begin to form bridges between the divided communities with confidence.

I have complete confidence in Talat and his intentions, I wish I had the same confidence in Christofias. Just before he got finally elected, the day I learnt his deal with diko, I lost complete confidence in his intentions. Please tell me I am wrong, and he is negotiating in good faith and not doing a Papadobullos on us.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:05 pm

insan wrote:The fact, Miltiadis, is that Cypriots have never been considered ownselves as a nation.

Did you go round and survey everyone to determine that because you seem to have missed my family for one so…

Quit presenting assumptions as facts!
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Postby runaway » Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:06 pm

miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:Zan answering a written question on Cyprus.

Q. Zan as I understand it you do not recognise the RoC in spite of the fact that the entire world does, is this right?
A. Just because the "UN" along with the so called "EU" as well as the "USA" "Britain" and the rest of the world recognise the "RoC" DOES NOT MEAN THAT ITS RIGHT.quote]

Why should be the case of TRNC be different from that of Kosovo? You may not want to recognize Kosovo but it's there with its borders, flag, constitution. You may not want to call Makedonija with its proper name but the country is still Makedonija. Actually 200+ countries call it Makedonija but there is no such country for you. Greeks are probably the worst neighbours one could ever dream of. You simply don't know how to get along. No need to mention how you treat the Albanians....

Listen foreigner , I'm not a Greek neither do I particularly bother myself with either Kosovo . Makedonia or how the Greeks treat Albanians or indeed how the Turks treat the Kurds. I'm a Cypriot who cares that a part of my country , not yours foreigner but mine , is under the occupation of a foreign country.
May I ask , what is a foreigner doing poking his / her nose into the affairs of Cyprus.
Read my signature foreigner , it derives from the T/C Newspaper Africa .
ps. Neither Kosovo nor Makedonia is under the occupation of a third world country didn't you know !!


You listen to me grandpa. How can you explain the Greece flags in your "independent" country? Your people wave Greece flags not South Cypriot flags when there is a celebration. There are probably more Greece flags in your country than your own flag. Give me a reasonable explanation. When I talked about it your people told me it was so normal as they were ethnically Greek. Are you Greek Cypriot or only Cypriot decide it for god s sake. If you are really Cypriot get rid of the "foreign" Greece flags. If you are Greek Cypriot then be respectful to the ones who tell you they are TURKISH Cypriots.
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