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Postby insan » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:54 pm

Oracle wrote:I agree ... Insan is a horder who cannot distinguish between junk which has to be chucked out, and important information which is worth disseminating ... :D


Oracle is just another embryonic "apey" who still does not even aware of that everything she defines as "junk" is obvious that does not fit her own and her hordes self-interests. However dear, world is not as small as ur world, u better broden ur vision and learn to look and think as an individual of globalizing world otherwise u will passed away as self-aware, ordinary human being. :wink: It is too obvios that Oracle and alikes jump on everything as poor ordinary individuals when it fits her and treats it as a treasure; when it does not fit she defines it as "junk" :lol:

I just can laugh at u for hours, dear; nothing else.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:03 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:I agree ... Insan is a horder who cannot distinguish between junk which has to be chucked out, and important information which is worth disseminating ... :D


Oracle is just another embryonic "apey" who still does not even aware of that everything she defines as "junk" is obvious that does not fit her own and her hordes self-interests. However dear, world is not as small as ur world, u better broden ur vision and learn to look and think as an individual of globalizing world otherwise u will passed away as self-aware, ordinary human being. :wink: It is too obvios that Oracle and alikes jumps on everything when it fits her and treats it as a treasure; when it does not fit she defines it as "junk" :lol:

I just can laugh at u for hours, dear; nothing else.


And insan is just another TC who is uncomfortable in his Turkish skin, as he realises his ancestors (recent and past), have been the scourge of civilisation .... and as a budding, but nevertheless pseudo-intellectual, it remains his duty to try and convince everyone, that Turks deserve to be heard, because they have something to say :lol: ... even though he has not yet figured out what his message is! ... So he just randomly "cuts and pastes" hoping he will have a EUREKA moment, and feel a little Hellenic :lol:
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:14 pm

Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:I agree ... Insan is a horder who cannot distinguish between junk which has to be chucked out, and important information which is worth disseminating ... :D


Oracle is just another embryonic "apey" who still does not even aware of that everything she defines as "junk" is obvious that does not fit her own and her hordes self-interests. However dear, world is not as small as ur world, u better broden ur vision and learn to look and think as an individual of globalizing world otherwise u will passed away as self-aware, ordinary human being. :wink: It is too obvios that Oracle and alikes jumps on everything when it fits her and treats it as a treasure; when it does not fit she defines it as "junk" :lol:

I just can laugh at u for hours, dear; nothing else.


And insan is just another TC who is uncomfortable in his Turkish skin, as he realises his ancestors (recent and past), have been the scourge of civilisation .... and as a budding, but nevertheless pseudo-intellectual, it remains his duty to try and convince everyone, that Turks deserve to be heard, because they have something to say :lol: ... even though he has not yet figured out what his message is! ... So he just randomly "cuts and pastes" hoping he will have a EUREKA moment, and feel a little Hellenic :lol:


:lol: Ur Hellenically restricted brain, heart and soul only allow u to comrehend things in boundaries of Hellenism which is still full of hatred towards Turks.

Hate is not a good counselor.
Victoria Wolff

We hate some persons because we do not know them; and we will not know them because we hate them.
Charles Caleb Colton

Hatreds are the cinders of affection.
Sir Walter Ralegh

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
Hermann Hesse

In hatred as in love, we grow like the thing we brood upon. What we loathe, we graft into our very soul.
Mary Renault

Whom they have injured, they also hate.
Seneca

I never hated a man enough to give him his diamonds back.
Zsa Zsa Gabor

Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation, or creed.
Bertrand Russel

Hate no one; hate their vices, not themselves.
J. G. C. Brainard

Like the greatest virtue and the worst dogs, the fiercest hatred is silent.
Jean Paul Richter

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
Richard M. Nixon

Hatred comes from the heart; contempt from the head; and neither feeling is quite within our control.
Arnold Schopenhauer

Hate is the consequence of fear; we fear something before we hate it; a child who fears noises becomes a man who fears noises.
Cyril Connolly

He that fears you present will hate you absent.
Thomas Fuller

Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.
William Congreve

We love without reason, and without reason we hate.
Jean-francois Regnard

I shall never permit myself to stoop so low as to hate any man.
Booker T. Washington

To hate fatigues.
Jean Rostand

The hatred of those who are near to us is most violent.
Tacitus

Hatred is the madness of the heart.
Lord Byron

Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.
George Bernard Shaw

There is no faculty of the human soul so persistent and universal as that of hatred.
Henry Ward Beecher

Hatred is settled anger.
Cicero

Hatred is self-punishment.
Hosea Ballou

Great hate follows great love.
Irish Proverb

A man who lives, not by what he loves but what he hates, is a sick man.
Archibald Macleish

Hate is all a lie, there is no truth in hate.
Kathleen Norris

Hatred is by far the longest pleasure; Men love in haste, but they detest at leisure.
Lord Byron

Hatred, which could destroy so much, never failed to destroy the man who hated and this was an immutable law.
James Baldwin

A good indignation brings out all one's powers.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
Herman Hesse

You cannot hate other people without hating your self.
Oprah Winfrey

Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.
Buddha

Who can refute a sneer?
William Paley

Hatred is like fire -- it makes even light rubbish deadly.
George Eliot

Hate is always a clash between our spirit and someone else's body.
Cesar Pavese

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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:25 pm

insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
insan wrote:
Oracle wrote:I agree ... Insan is a horder who cannot distinguish between junk which has to be chucked out, and important information which is worth disseminating ... :D


Oracle is just another embryonic "apey" who still does not even aware of that everything she defines as "junk" is obvious that does not fit her own and her hordes self-interests. However dear, world is not as small as ur world, u better broden ur vision and learn to look and think as an individual of globalizing world otherwise u will passed away as self-aware, ordinary human being. :wink: It is too obvios that Oracle and alikes jumps on everything when it fits her and treats it as a treasure; when it does not fit she defines it as "junk" :lol:

I just can laugh at u for hours, dear; nothing else.


And insan is just another TC who is uncomfortable in his Turkish skin, as he realises his ancestors (recent and past), have been the scourge of civilisation .... and as a budding, but nevertheless pseudo-intellectual, it remains his duty to try and convince everyone, that Turks deserve to be heard, because they have something to say :lol: ... even though he has not yet figured out what his message is! ... So he just randomly "cuts and pastes" hoping he will have a EUREKA moment, and feel a little Hellenic :lol:


:lol: Ur Hellenically restricted brain, heart and soul only allow u to comrehend things in boundaries of Hellenism which is still full of hatred towards Turks.

Hate is not a good counselor.
Victoria Wolff

We hate some persons because we do not know them; and we will not know them because we hate them.
Charles Caleb Colton

Hatreds are the cinders of affection.
Sir Walter Ralegh

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
Hermann Hesse

In hatred as in love, we grow like the thing we brood upon. What we loathe, we graft into our very soul.
Mary Renault

Whom they have injured, they also hate.
Seneca

I never hated a man enough to give him his diamonds back.
Zsa Zsa Gabor

Few people can be happy unless they hate some other person, nation, or creed.
Bertrand Russel

Hate no one; hate their vices, not themselves.
J. G. C. Brainard

Like the greatest virtue and the worst dogs, the fiercest hatred is silent.
Jean Paul Richter

Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.
Richard M. Nixon

Hatred comes from the heart; contempt from the head; and neither feeling is quite within our control.
Arnold Schopenhauer

Hate is the consequence of fear; we fear something before we hate it; a child who fears noises becomes a man who fears noises.
Cyril Connolly

He that fears you present will hate you absent.
Thomas Fuller

Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.
William Congreve

We love without reason, and without reason we hate.
Jean-francois Regnard

I shall never permit myself to stoop so low as to hate any man.
Booker T. Washington

To hate fatigues.
Jean Rostand

The hatred of those who are near to us is most violent.
Tacitus

Hatred is the madness of the heart.
Lord Byron

Hatred is the coward's revenge for being intimidated.
George Bernard Shaw

There is no faculty of the human soul so persistent and universal as that of hatred.
Henry Ward Beecher

Hatred is settled anger.
Cicero

Hatred is self-punishment.
Hosea Ballou

Great hate follows great love.
Irish Proverb

A man who lives, not by what he loves but what he hates, is a sick man.
Archibald Macleish

Hate is all a lie, there is no truth in hate.
Kathleen Norris

Hatred is by far the longest pleasure; Men love in haste, but they detest at leisure.
Lord Byron

Hatred, which could destroy so much, never failed to destroy the man who hated and this was an immutable law.
James Baldwin

A good indignation brings out all one's powers.
Ralph Waldo Emerson

If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us.
Herman Hesse

You cannot hate other people without hating your self.
Oprah Winfrey

Hatred does not cease by hatred, but only by love; this is the eternal rule.
Buddha

Who can refute a sneer?
William Paley

Hatred is like fire -- it makes even light rubbish deadly.
George Eliot

Hate is always a clash between our spirit and someone else's body.
Cesar Pavese



And you only think you have some reason for existence as an object for hatred.

Sometimes ... BAD things are hated ... and hate is as normal as love or any other emotion. We love good things (such as birds), so we are allowed to hate BAD things such as Turks! :D

If your only justification is to plead you are hated ... open your eyes and ask why!

No cause without an effect ......
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:33 pm

Not forgetting ...

KIN (Hatred)

Kahpe Yunan bu dünyada durdukça
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Durup durup köpek gibi gördükçe
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Bin Gâvur kellesi bir kin ödemez

Ŏç almaktur yergâne tasam
Sira gėlse savaş meydanuna uğrasam
Bir günde bin Gâvur kellesi doğrasam
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Bin Gâvur kellesi bir kin ödemez

Otuz bininin taşla ezsem başinı
On bininin pensle söksem dişini
Yüz bininin çaya döksem leşini
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Bin Gâvur kellesi bir kin ödemez

Bütün dünya bilir Türk ’ün farkını
Yunan ’in başina yikan çarkınt
Künhanlarda yâksam beş bin kırkını
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Bin Gâvur kellesi bir kin ödemez

Kırk binini süngü ile pullasam
Seksen binini cehenneme yollasam
Yüz binini ile çeklip sallasam
Bu kin benden vallâhi de gidemez
Bin Gâvur kellesi bir kin ödemez


The text of HATRED was published by the large
circulation Turkish newspapaer Hurriyet on 18 July
1974, just 48 hours before the Turkish invasion of
Cyprus by order of the Bulent Ecevit government.
Research: Leonidas Koumakis, Athens
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:36 pm

Or the translation for those who do not read the devil's language .....


HATRED

As long as the vulgar Greek exists in this world
By Allah, my hatred won't leave me
As long as I see him there like a dog
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

My only aim is revenge
When my turn comes to go to battle
In one day I'll butcher a thousand Giaours
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

Even if I crush thirty thousand of their heads with a stone
Even if I wrench out the teeth of ten thousand
And throw a hundred thousand of their corpses into the river
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.
The whole world knows how superior the Turk is
Who crashed the Greek's fucked world over his head
Even if I burn in stokeholes the heads of five thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred
Even if I slash forty thousand of them with my bayonet
And send eighty thousand of them to the devil
And hang a hundred thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.


The text of HATRED was published by the large circulation Turkish
newspapaer Hurriyet on 18 July 1974, just 48 hours before the
Turkish invasion of Cyprus by order of the Bulent Ecevit
government.

Research: Leonidas Koumakis, Athens
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:45 pm

Oracle wrote:Or the translation for those who do not read the devil's language .....


HATRED

As long as the vulgar Greek exists in this world
By Allah, my hatred won't leave me
As long as I see him there like a dog
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

My only aim is revenge
When my turn comes to go to battle
In one day I'll butcher a thousand Giaours
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

Even if I crush thirty thousand of their heads with a stone
Even if I wrench out the teeth of ten thousand
And throw a hundred thousand of their corpses into the river
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.
The whole world knows how superior the Turk is
Who crashed the Greek's fucked world over his head
Even if I burn in stokeholes the heads of five thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred
Even if I slash forty thousand of them with my bayonet
And send eighty thousand of them to the devil
And hang a hundred thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.


The text of HATRED was published by the large circulation Turkish
newspapaer Hurriyet on 18 July 1974, just 48 hours before the
Turkish invasion of Cyprus by order of the Bulent Ecevit
government.

Research: Leonidas Koumakis, Athens



Well there you have it, the real murdering scum - The Jurkish Army in 74.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:54 pm

insan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Insan,

Now that you posted couple of totally useless articles on two individuals bitching about nothing regarding Perry Anderson or his article on "The Division of Cyprus", why don't you answer the question put to YFred since you are such a "good reader". Here is the question again.


R sure what i posted in quotes were "couple of totally useless articles on two individuals bitching about nothing regarding Perry Anderson or his article on "The Division of Cyprus""? reread with ur pair of glasses on, dear.

Kikapu wrote: As a TC myself, I would recommend that you read this article by Perry Anderson (about 40 pages) and come back and tell us which parts of his reporting you disagree with, that despite what went on, that the Annan Plan should have been accepted regardless by all Cypriots.!


Kikapu wrote:So tell us Mr/Ms critique, which parts of his reporting do you disagree with, that despite what went on, that the Annan Plan should have been accepted regardless by all Cypriots.!


What i mainly disagree is seen clearly what i quoted from "2 individuals" namely Reed Coughlan and David Hannay.

www.un.org/News/dh/hlpanel/hannay-bio.htm
http://www.esc.edu/ESConline/Across_ESC ... enDocument

Kikapu wrote:It's a simple question and I'm not interested in your stupid game playing antics. Either answer the damn question or don't say anything at all, which is the best thing for you to do at times.!


Ok ma master, embryonic "ape" Kikapu. :lol: Not despite what went on, that the Annan Plan should have been accepted regardless by all Cypriots but Annan Plan should have been accepted regardless by all Cypriots in awareness of what's really happened in the past, what were the inevitable consequences, since Cyprus is in a US founded EU; keeping the pace with rapidly globalizing world and trying to reconcile with what's happened in the past. Hope it satisfies u ma master, embryonic "ape" Kikapu. :lol:


No my "naked slut" Insan, :lol: you did not answer my question as usual, that's because you did not read the article by Perry Anderson. Then again, how could you have read over 40 pages in 20 minutes. I did not ask for your useless opinion on the Anna Plan, which you gave us a useless answer anyway about the US and the EU and globalisation and consequences and more crap. The question was, and try and read it closely this time my "naked slut" Insan, :lol: "which parts of his reporting do you disagree with, that despite what went on, that the Annan Plan should have been accepted regardless by all Cypriots.!". Give me the PARTS and QUOTE them for us. Which PARTS of the report do you disagree with. Perhaps this was one of those times that it would have been best if you said nothing at all, because that's all you did anyway, which you said NOTHING at all.!
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Postby insan » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:56 pm

Oracle wrote:Or the translation for those who do not read the devil's language .....


HATRED

As long as the vulgar Greek exists in this world
By Allah, my hatred won't leave me
As long as I see him there like a dog
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of infidel Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

My only aim is revenge
When my turn comes to go to battle
In one day I'll butcher a thousand Giaours
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me
A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.

Even if I crush thirty thousand of their heads with a stone
Even if I wrench out the teeth of ten thousand
And throw a hundred thousand of their corpses into the river
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.
The whole world knows how superior the Turk is
Who crashed the Greek's fucked world over his head
Even if I burn in stokeholes the heads of five thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred
Even if I slash forty thousand of them with my bayonet
And send eighty thousand of them to the devil
And hang a hundred thousand of them
By Allah, this hatred won't leave me

A thousand heads of Giaours cannot wash away this hatred.


The text of HATRED was published by the large circulation Turkish
newspapaer Hurriyet on 18 July 1974, just 48 hours before the
Turkish invasion of Cyprus by order of the Bulent Ecevit
government.

Research: Leonidas Koumakis, Athens


This type of shits only written and followed by ultra nationalists and ignorants. r u one of them?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:57 pm

insan wrote:
From Reed Coughlan

Perry Anderson writes that the British government manipulated Turkish fears in the 1950s to produce ‘the intractable reality of a community that felt itself entitled as of right to a disproportionate share of power on the island, yet continually lived on its nerves as if under imminent siege’. He goes on to say that the constitution handed to Cyprus in 1960 ‘had inflated the Turkish position in the state far beyond what a minority of its size could in normal circumstances have claimed’. While the intractable reality may be fairly described in this way, it did not originate from British manipulation of Turkish fears nor did it derive from the provisions of the 1960 constitution. The sense of entitlement in the Turkish Cypriot community developed much earlier. The Turks ruled Cyprus for three centuries and they have never become accustomed to being treated as a minority. In 1882, for example, shortly after the British took over the administration of the island they proposed the creation of a legislative council based on proportional representation, comprising nine Greeks and three Turks. (Cyprus was not ‘acquired by Britain from the Ottoman Empire’ in 1878, as Anderson claims: Turkey maintained sovereignty over the island until Britain annexed Cyprus in 1914.) The Turks protested because they saw it as undermining their rightful position and status as former rulers. ‘The project of proportional representation in the Legislative Council is in every respect detrimental to our rights and destructive of the safety we enjoy,’ they said.

To this day Turkish Cypriots bridle at the use of the term ‘minority group’. Their refusal to be treated as such is anchored in geography and politics. Turkey is forty miles away and is the stronger and more strategically valued member of Nato. The true intractable reality is that the Turkish Cypriots are a minority on the island but belong to a majority group in the region, while the Greek Cypriots are a majority on the island but a minority in the region. This situation gives rise to fears in both communities.

Reed Coughlan, fails to take into consideration that this is the 21st century, and even though many Turkish Cypriots may still have wet Ottoman dreams lingering from the past, as a community they have since been surpassed by all & sundry by miles and in every way possible…

They are a minority, they are bankrupt, as has been proven they are incompetent at trade & commerce, they are generally under-skilled and under-educated by today’s standards, and they are socially and culturally mostly living in the past.

As a distinct community, the probability that they can ascertain themselves in the 21st century as a worthwhile “power” on Cyprus is next to zero, unless some external power such as Turkey was to constantly keep them above water and forcefully put them in an “influential” position, but even then such a charade would not last… in fact it’s even embarrassing!

If you can’t stand on your own two feet then there’s only so much life support machines can give to prolong your existence, and the same applies for Turkish Cypriots if they wish to exist as a “distinct community” on Cyprus as opposed to becoming Cypriot citizens.
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