Cyprus-Forum.com

[Piratis]

Piratis, your response is still sad, but expected. You are almost justifying the wiping out of 3 villages, one of which was my mothers.

Quit exaggerating… a total of 65 dead is NOT a “wiping out of 3 villages”!

I think it is more like a couple of 100 (in total), not 65.

What 74LB forgets is that this crime was committed by some EOKA-B thugs. Those people, along with the coupists, where the people we were fighting against between 15th of july and 20th of July.

We never supported the actions of EOKA-B, only a tiny minority did so.
On the other hand, the vast majority of TCs fully support the criminal Turkish invasion which was the cause of so many deaths, atrocities and suffering.

What 74LB forgets is that this crime was committed by some EOKA-B thugs. Those people, along with the coupists, where the people we were fighting against between 15th of july and 20th of July.

And after this date you decided to join them ?
Wonderful.

After this date we had a much worst kind of criminals to deal with. I guess it would suit you very nicely if we continued fighting among ourselves, making it even easier for you to ethnically cleanse us and take our lands, right?

[Piratis]

As I said, the next time you see Donktosh ask him why some GCs killed those 200 odd TCs.

It was their own fault I suppose.....

you have been given evidence as to why Makarios and his regime did not allow us back into anything and you expected Denktas to sit back and watch as you killed each other and then started on us....FFS Have you got an ounce of sense in that head of yours???[/i]

Just ask him this...

Why do you suppose that up to and including the day the Turkish "intervention" took place, not a single Turkish Cypriot had lost their life yet once the Turkish operations got started we ended up with 200 dead?

The whole world and his dog was warning of a Turkish intervention if a single TC was touched...Maybe they were actually listening to this little piece of advice??? When the guns and tanks went off in Cyprus then the Turks got a bit jittery.....Maybe by then they thought fuck it and went for Taksim anyway because the Coup brought even more uncertainty to the TC people....I haven't found it yet, more because I haven't had the time to research it, but I have always wondered what extra advantages the coup would have brought to the Greeks as to claim on the entire island...I suspect that the coup was staged on a greater idea.....I will do the homework one day and see what I come up with.

Going back to the issue, because I only like to tackle one thing at a time...

Donktosh is 100% responsible for all TC deaths that occurred from the 20th of July 1974 onwards, because he stupidly set the Turkish army against the Greek Cypriot people and I’m actually amazed you only had 200 odd victims. I'd even go as far as calling it a miracle...

I thought the combat was between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces from the 20th of July 1974 and onwards.


Look what those "Greek Cypriot people" did to 120 Turkish troops even though none of them was touched by any Turkish soldiers.


http://www.hellas.org/cyprus/timeline.htm

20th of july 1974
06:07 Cyprus One such example is the dropping of 120 troops on Mia Milia. When the villagers saw the troops in the sky, they took whatever firearms they had and started firing. From the 120 troops, 93 were killed, 1 was taken captive, while the rest fled.

Then the fled Trkish soldiers returned with another troop and killed all "innocent" but armed and shooting GC villagers that killed 93 out of 120 Turkish soldiers in the air. Then Hellenes began to use this type of events for propaganda purposes to make the world believe how "barbarian" the Turks are.

They were invading our country. Are you now blaming the villagers for defending themselves against a full scale foreign invasion?

[74LB]

Piratis, your response is still sad, but expected. You are almost justifying the wiping out of 3 villages, one of which was my mothers.

Quit exaggerating… a total of 65 dead is NOT a “wiping out of 3 villages”!

Every single person that they could get their hands on was killed. While the menfolk were in prison camps in Limassol their villages were wiped out.

Go visit my mothers villages of Sandallar and see what remains - a handful of families rebuilding their lives. It will never be the same.

And you call this exaggerating

Why would I need to go visit your mother’s village when I’ve got thousands of my own to worry about?

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus21136.html

As I said, go lodge your complaint with Donktosh who got on the phone and convinced Turkey to invade and quit wasting our time with the drop in the ocean.

Thousands of viallges to worry about eh, now who is exaggerating ?

I've provided you with a link of the official lists and there's plenty of UN reports that verify 1974 casualties.

Your link above shows that you don't have "thousands of villages" to worry about. Thank you.

[Get Real!]

I thought the combat was between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces from the 20th of July 1974 and onwards.

What combat? 40k Turks vs 2k Greeks? You call that a combat?

Look what those "Greek Cypriot people" did to 120 Turkish troops even though none of them was touched by any Turkish soldiers.

Tough titties... if Donktosh hadn't been on the phone all morning crying for Turkey to come and kill thousands of GCs those people would still be alive today... that's what I've been telling you all day.

U r misinformed abt the number of Hellenic Forces including NG and reserves.

NG and reserves? Back then it was a joke... the Cypriot resistance was non-existent.

[insan]

As I said, the next time you see Donktosh ask him why some GCs killed those 200 odd TCs.

It was their own fault I suppose.....

you have been given evidence as to why Makarios and his regime did not allow us back into anything and you expected Denktas to sit back and watch as you killed each other and then started on us....FFS Have you got an ounce of sense in that head of yours???[/i]

Just ask him this...

Why do you suppose that up to and including the day the Turkish "intervention" took place, not a single Turkish Cypriot had lost their life yet once the Turkish operations got started we ended up with 200 dead?

The whole world and his dog was warning of a Turkish intervention if a single TC was touched...Maybe they were actually listening to this little piece of advice??? When the guns and tanks went off in Cyprus then the Turks got a bit jittery.....Maybe by then they thought fuck it and went for Taksim anyway because the Coup brought even more uncertainty to the TC people....I haven't found it yet, more because I haven't had the time to research it, but I have always wondered what extra advantages the coup would have brought to the Greeks as to claim on the entire island...I suspect that the coup was staged on a greater idea.....I will do the homework one day and see what I come up with.

Going back to the issue, because I only like to tackle one thing at a time...

Donktosh is 100% responsible for all TC deaths that occurred from the 20th of July 1974 onwards, because he stupidly set the Turkish army against the Greek Cypriot people and I’m actually amazed you only had 200 odd victims. I'd even go as far as calling it a miracle...

I thought the combat was between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces from the 20th of July 1974 and onwards.


Look what those "Greek Cypriot people" did to 120 Turkish troops even though none of them was touched by any Turkish soldiers.


http://www.hellas.org/cyprus/timeline.htm

20th of july 1974
06:07 Cyprus One such example is the dropping of 120 troops on Mia Milia. When the villagers saw the troops in the sky, they took whatever firearms they had and started firing. From the 120 troops, 93 were killed, 1 was taken captive, while the rest fled.

Then the fled Trkish soldiers returned with another troop and killed all "innocent" but armed and shooting GC villagers that killed 93 out of 120 Turkish soldiers in the air. Then Hellenes began to use this type of events for propaganda purposes to make the world believe how "barbarian" the Turks are.

They were invading our country. Are you now blaming the villagers for defending themselves against a full scale foreign invasion?

They were intervening. Invaders(illegal Hellenic forces, unconstitutional NG and forced to combat reserves) was already in Cyprus when Turkish forces arrived.

[Get Real!]

Your link above shows that you don't have "thousands of villages" to worry about. Thank you.

Thousands of DEAD you nincompoop! The details of the first 800 are there, but the rest of the spreadsheet’s pages got trashed.

[Piratis]

But, we were told only recently, and Piratis did not object to this, that the coup was performed by the junta and that EOKA B could not be held responsible because it did not exist in july 1974 because it was disbanded in January of the same year. On the same line, the murders committed in Aloa, Sandalaris and Maratha cannot be put down to EOKA B. Piratis, you can always go back to your comparison, thousands gainst hundreds ...

Please take note: All those that point an accusing finger at the other side have one sole aim. To reduce the chances of the ongoing talks for a comprehensive solution to zero. We are engaging in serious talk to find a solution that will end the division and save our island from destruction. We should be very careful of what we say and what we do (attacks on TC's in the south). The rejectionists, reactionaries etc have had it their way for too long. This is the time for peace-loving Cypriots to stand up to them and show them that they are an insignificant fraction of sick individuals who have no place in modern times. In this effort there are no Greek and turkish Cypriots. we are all one, brothers and sisters in struggle, to save our island.

We all love peace, but some of us love democracy and our freedom more than peace. There are some things that worth fighting for. This is why we will continue to fight for our rights.

On the other hand the slaves of your kind will fight for nothing and will surrender to the aggression of the foreign invaders without putting up any kind of resistance.

The vast majority of Cypriots reject any capitulation to the foreign invader. Your small minority of acceptionists will not have its way, now or ever.

Solution means democracy, human rights and freedom to our island. Solution does not mean dissolution, and closing of the Cyprus issue with our defeat. We will never surrender to any foreign invader. Period.

[74LB]

Your link above shows that you don't have "thousands of villages" to worry about. Thank you.

Thousands of DEAD you nincompoop! The details of the first 800 are there, but the rest of the spreadsheet’s pages got trashed.

Why start name calling ? I understood that you referred to villages rather than individuals, and anyone reading the exchanges would think the same.

If you wish to twist it to suit your need, then so be it.

[Get Real!]

Your link above shows that you don't have "thousands of villages" to worry about. Thank you.

Thousands of DEAD you nincompoop! The details of the first 800 are there, but the rest of the spreadsheet’s pages got trashed.

Why start name calling ? I understood that you referred to villages rather than individuals, and anyone reading the exchanges would think the same.
If you wish to twist it to suit your need, then so be it.

The bloody details in that spreadsheet are those of people such as name, age, etc, so what on earth are you on about?

[insan]

I thought the combat was between Hellenic forces and Turkish forces from the 20th of July 1974 and onwards.

What combat? 40k Turks vs 2k Greeks? You call that a combat?

Look what those "Greek Cypriot people" did to 120 Turkish troops even though none of them was touched by any Turkish soldiers.

Tough titties... if Donktosh hadn't been on the phone all morning crying for Turkey to come and kill thousands of GCs those people would still be alive today... that's what I've been telling you all day.

U r misinformed abt the number of Hellenic Forces including NG and reserves.

NG and reserves? Back then it was a joke... the Cypriot resistance was non-existent.

http://www.hellas.org/cyprus/timeline.htm

Go there and read minute my minute.