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[Nikitas]

Check out the Sunday Times report. Makes fascinating reading.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 137695.ece

It portrays a cynical bazaar mentality which is still at work today. Turkish diplomats spy on US agencies, place moles in sensitive spots and then sell the secrets to the highest bidder. That is how they treat their best friends, the Americans!

So much for honor and pride. In the end it looks like the image of the serious diplomats etc that we have of the Turks is just that, an image, the reality is much different. As one US official says in the report: "the Turks are traders".

[Oracle]

The special relationship between Turkey and Pakistan has been one of the greatest consistencies in Turkish policy. Their mutual aims are similar; except Turkey is the better of the two at duplicity. Any secrets that Turkey sells to others, you can be sure she has milked for herself first. If Pakistan is a nuclear threat, more-so is Turkey ....

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... c&start=90

The Turkish-Pakistani Connection

Turkey has long been known as a vital transit and assembly point for contraband nuclear materials. It has been aiding the nuclear aspirations of Pakistan, in particular, since a military coup in 1980. A report from back in 2000 recalled that:

"[T]urkey has already been implicated in nuclear arms aid to Pakistan. An earlier attempt to build an Argentinean-designed reactor was likely aimed at plutonium production for nuclear weapons. Evidence of nuclear smuggling based in Turkey, and Turkey's push for its own nuclear fuel capability and indigenous reactor design, all pointed to possible nuclear weapons development. The support of prominent Turkish citizens for nuclear weapons development has leant credence to this evidence."

[Medman]

And of course the Americans, British and every other country in the world never double crosses everyone else!

[YFred]

What have you got against free enterprise or is it only applicable to Christian countries. When it comes to Muslims countries, they must be suffocated with love. What a wonderful sentiment.

Well I’ve got news for you my friend. The west and mainly christian economies are on their last leg. The real question is how the Chinese will behave in the future. Will they be another America?

Isn’t the real middle east problem the fact that Israel has Nuclear weapons and backed to the hilt by the Americans against American law. Isn’t the imbalance of power what causes wars. If any of the Arab nations had nuclear weapons, would Israel behave the way they do.

Good on Turkey and Iran. With a bit of luck one day they may test a nuclear weapon and then see how quick the middle east problem is solved.
I will qualify this. I did not mean that they will blow up Israel. Israel will be more reasonable in their negotiations is what I meant.

[Piratis]

Well I’ve got news for you my friend. The west and mainly christian economies are on their last leg. The real question is how the Chinese will behave in the future. Will they be another America?

I have news for you. Turkey is standing on the legs that are given to her by the West, and if that support is removed then you are going down fast.

[Oracle]

Good on Turkey and Iran. With a bit of luck one day they may test a nuclear weapon and then see how quick the middle east problem is solved.

Unfortunately with thinking like yours, we will very quickly end up where Einstein predicted ....

[YFred]

Well I’ve got news for you my friend. The west and mainly christian economies are on their last leg. The real question is how the Chinese will behave in the future. Will they be another America?

I have news for you. Turkey is standing on the legs that are given to her by the West, and if that support is removed then you are going down fast.

I am no economist, but Turkish economy is at its strongest and the most stable it has ever been.
We have seen some very dark days in Cyprus and I'd rather be here than in 1963 any time.

[YFred]

Good on Turkey and Iran. With a bit of luck one day they may test a nuclear weapon and then see how quick the middle east problem is solved.

Unfortunately with thinking like yours, we will very quickly end up where Einstein predicted ....

You will find Einstein was a late developer.

[Get Real!]

It portrays a cynical bazaar mentality which is still at work today. Turkish diplomats spy on US agencies, place moles in sensitive spots and then sell the secrets to the highest bidder. That is how they treat their best friends, the Americans!

So much for honor and pride. In the end it looks like the image of the serious diplomats etc that we have of the Turks is just that, an image, the reality is much different. As one US official says in the report: "the Turks are traders".

So how does the act differ from the US' phone wire tapping?

[YFred]

It portrays a cynical bazaar mentality which is still at work today. Turkish diplomats spy on US agencies, place moles in sensitive spots and then sell the secrets to the highest bidder. That is how they treat their best friends, the Americans!

So much for honor and pride. In the end it looks like the image of the serious diplomats etc that we have of the Turks is just that, an image, the reality is much different. As one US official says in the report: "the Turks are traders".

So how does the act differ from the US' phone wire tapping?

In terms of what USA does today, phone tapping is baby talk. Extra-ordinary rendition, tens of thousands of people kidnapped and sent to third countries to be held without charge and tortured?