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[metecyp]

I stressed many times how GC people in general are not too open for alternate views, and I said how pure democracy in Cyprus means TCs elimination from the decision making process since nobody will listen to the minority. And I also said how TCs have the right to feel scared of being minority inside majority GCs given the incidents of the past and the same mentality that brough those incidents that lingers even today. Some members of the forum urged me to move on and forget the past and all that. And I tried...now after the latest incident happened to DISY leader, I have the same questions again.

How can a GC convince TCs that they will be listened and they won't be attacked if they have an alternate view from the majority of the GCs when an important GC (DISY's leader) gets attacked just because he supported YES in the referandum? This is what you call the best democracy in the world?

I hate to pick one incident and make conclusions out of it. But first YES supporters in the south got attacked by youngsters, now DISY was the only party that supported YES, and the leader gets seriously attacked. What am I supposed to think?

[Piratis]

The leader of DISY is losing ground after he supported "yes" and 66% of his party supporters voted "no". He would do anything to keep the presidency in his party, even this.

It is a really pity that this person after accusing the Republic of Cyprus in Europe now he invents such methods to create yet another false impression and give our enemies the right to accuse us.

No GC is stupid though, and I am sure the people of DISY will soon show him the way out of their party. I could even bet on this.

[mehmet]

So you are saying he paid or asked someone to throw a grenade at him? What are you thinking he would gain from such action?

Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't or are you just too blind to see what is staring you in the face?

[metecyp]

It is a really pity that this person after accusing the Republic of Cyprus in Europe now he invents such methods to create yet another false impression and give our enemies the right to accuse us.

First of all, I'm not your enemy. You can consider me as enemy but I don't consider you as enemy. How do you know that he invented this whole bombing thing? You have to have good evidence to make such claims. Do you know Afrika newspaper in the north? The one that opposes Denktas and calls Turkish army invaders? Well, their office was bombed a number of times, and every time Denktas said newspaper people put the bomb themselves in order to gain support. Now, you're saying almost the same thing Denktas said in the north for a different, yet very similar situation. And then you get offended when I say Papadopoulos-minded people and Denktas=minded people are the same.

[Piratis]

How can a GC convince TCs that they will be listened and they won't be attacked if they have an alternate view from the majority of the GCs when an important GC (DISY's leader) gets attacked just because he supported YES in the referandum? This is what you call the best democracy in the world?

Do you know something the rest of the world doesn't or are you just too blind to see what is staring you in the face?

Metecyp came to his own conclusions and I came to mine. The police investigation didn't show anything yet, so how come Metecyp living in the US knows more than me living in the same city that the incident happened?

Who is blind in this case is probably you. I know personally this person, we were at the same table a couple of times and I was studying at the same school with his daughter for 12 years. Cities here are small.

It is well known that he will do everything possible to achieve his aim. He proved it several times. Of course we didn't expect from him to falsely accuse Cyprus in Europe, but he even did this!

What are you thinking he would gain from such action?

the question is: "Who else could gain from such action?".
Only him and his circle.
So even if you don't want to accept it, because it doesn't serve your purpose, chances are much higher that he arranged for it and not anybody of his opponents.

First of all, I'm not your enemy.

How come and you are acting like one then?
How comes and while I put proposals for a solution and try to discuss with you about the future you keep ignoring it and instead you prefer to stick in the past and accuse us as much as possible?

[metecyp]

How comes and while I put proposals for a solution and try to discuss with you about the future you keep ignoring it and instead you prefer to stick in the past and accuse us as much as possible?

Because you keep ignoring TC concerns. At the root of everything you say is "majority rules, all refugees back" and I try to explain you why TCs have justified concerns about majority ruling, and I try to explain why all refugees will not be able to return. But you never accept these concerns as justified because you think TCs are still living in the past, and they are brainwashed. I try to show you that you're also living in the past (eg. TCs using their veto to stop everything), and GCs are brainwashed too (this is evident from the number of youngster who have no clue about 63-74). But you don't accept these of course.

Then, I give you examples from today that show that the same mentality of the past is still among the GC community and you deny that too.

Then you start talking about compromises that GCs gave, and when I try to tell you that TCs are compromisng as well by moving out of former GC houses, and giving up on their independent state etc. and you refuse those as compromises as well.

So it seems like no matter what I say, we can't agree because according to you GCs are the only victims, and I'm telling you that TCs are victims as well but you don't listen. So what do you want me to do?

[MicAtCyp]

Now about Desy and that fascist Anastasiades.
Well let me explain what Desy is.
5% real high Capitalists
5% Ex-Eokas, and extreme nationalists.
20% simple right wingers and rightist ideologists.
Desy ALWAYS used that 30% voting power to promote specifically the interests of the 5% high Capitalists. Simply the Desy voters were blind so far to observe the obvious.

The question is how come Anastasiades became the No1 supporter of the Anan Plan? Well simple,who cares if the people lose their properties their rights and everything.ANY solution, and I mean even the most racist will provide for 30% BUSSINESS EXPANSION. Do you know what 30% bussiness expansion means for the Capitalist. He can make 100 more houses than the house he lost.He can buy 100 times more donums of land than the ones he will lose…!!!

So yes DESY and Anastasiades supported the Anan Plan with such a passion, although 75% of their voters were saying No.!!!

Question 1):Who put a bomb in the house of Anastasiades?His own capitalists,or his own Eokas?
Question 2) How much will Desy get in next elections? More than 15%? He,he, he.
Let the masks fall Mr Anastasiades…. You Mr Christofias too, the TCs finally realised that you were just behind their votes after a solution.
The funny thing is we the GCs are left with the other 2-3 silly small parties,…

PS.Today fascist Anastasiades expelled 2 of his MPs. Out he said, you no longer belong to my party, because you spoke publicly against the Plan! The son of Sampson (the great TC slaughterer) was in the list to be expelled but in the end he got away.Too many bombs would follow perhaps… what a hypocricy…