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[RichardB]

You paid for it and it has appreciated....

My land

my earnings....The fact that the "RoC" should never have gone into the EU is only now being realised...Too late I know but still......If there is a legal way I can

prosecute I will.....You guys are not exempt.....

.Greek property or TC property...

The wole of Cyprus is Cypriot property

and you guys are enjoying my privileges....It is no different to racketeers buying up cheep property in the Gaza strip all thanks to the Israelis...You simply should not be there.....I will await the legal advise.

Zan please allow me to answer your allegations

a. If it can be proved that I have bought land which has been misappropriated in some way I will gladly return the property to its rightful owner. do you agree that this should apply to properties in the North bought by Brits and other foreigners?

b.And this prosecution will also apply to my wife? ..Cypriot born and bred is she not entitled to live in her homeland because she is married to an EU national??

c. The fact is Zan I am able to live in Cyprus legally according to international law give me a reason why I should not be there

You also mention that I am enjoying YOUR privileges No one is stopping you returning to your home to regain your privileges but i do understand your reasons for not wanting to return in the present situation. However you can hardly blame me for thie current situation can you

You are on stolen land as it is part and parcel of he Zurich agreement...I will rely on legal advise Richard.....You are profiting from my homeland as much as any Brit in the TRNC....You land on TC land at Larnaca airport....You drive on TC land throughout your stay.....You live on the profits of the "Roc" which should benefit me first....

Guess you are unable to answer my questions then?

I thought I put them quite clearly but maybe I need to re-phrase them

[Tim Drayton]

Zan, you are also a British citizen and could, if you so wished, come to the RoC as an EU national and enjoy exactly the same benefits and privileges as other British permanent residents do.

He could also get his RoC citizenship and enjoy everything like every other citizen. The problem is that for some racist TCs like Zan, having the same rights as everybody else is not enough. They want to have more than every other citizen just because he is "Turkish Cypriot".

Indeed, he could also resettle in Cyprus as a Cyprus citizen and enjoy more rights than I do, such as the right to vote and stand for election in national elections. Curious thing that - Cypriots living in the my country can vote in national elections there, but I can't vote in national elections if I live in their country. Maybe it is me who should be taking legal advice and prosecuting somebody.

Tim, the Cypriots that vote in National Elections in the UK are probably those who lived there for many years and got the citizenship. British people who received the Cypriot citizenship can vote in Cyprus elections like everybody else.

That's correct. EU citizens can only vote in Local Council Elections. You need to be a UK Subject (not citizen because of the Monarchy ) with residency, to vote in National / General Elections.

Actually, EU citizens can also vote (and stand for election) in European elections.

I know that Irish, Maltese and Cypriot citizens who are permanently resident in the UK can vote in national elections there regardless of whether they are citizens. That is because they are 'subjects' you say. Interesting. OK, I drop my threat of legal action.

[miltiades]

You paid for it and it has appreciated....

My land

my earnings....The fact that the "RoC" should never have gone into the EU is only now being realised...Too late I know but still......If there is a legal way I can

prosecute I will.....You guys are not exempt.....

.Greek property or TC property...

The wole of Cyprus is Cypriot property

and you guys are enjoying my privileges....It is no different to racketeers buying up cheep property in the Gaza strip all thanks to the Israelis...You simply should not be there.....I will await the legal advise.

Zan please allow me to answer your allegations

a. If it can be proved that I have bought land which has been misappropriated in some way I will gladly return the property to its rightful owner. do you agree that this should apply to properties in the North bought by Brits and other foreigners?

b.And this prosecution will also apply to my wife? ..Cypriot born and bred is she not entitled to live in her homeland because she is married to an EU national??

c. The fact is Zan I am able to live in Cyprus legally according to international law give me a reason why I should not be there

You also mention that I am enjoying YOUR privileges No one is stopping you returning to your home to regain your privileges but i do understand your reasons for not wanting to return in the present situation. However you can hardly blame me for thie current situation can you

You are on stolen land as it is part and parcel of he Zurich agreement...I will rely on legal advise Richard.....You are profiting from my homeland as much as any Brit in the TRNC....You land on TC land at Larnaca airport....You drive on TC land throughout your stay.....You live on the profits of the "Roc" which should benefit me first....

Make up your mind mate .If Cyprus is your homeland then what on earth are you doing recognizing an illegal regime that is the army created "trnc" !! Or was it in the Zurich agreement !

[Tim Drayton]

Zan, you are also a British citizen and could, if you so wished, come to the RoC as an EU national and enjoy exactly the same benefits and privileges as other British permanent residents do.

I can but that would mean that I agree to give up my rights under the Zurich agreement which I am not going to do.

Precisely. I am enjoying my rights under the EU acquis communautaire and not under under the Zurich agreement. Thus I am neither usurping your rights nor depriving you of them.

[Oracle]

Zan, you are also a British citizen and could, if you so wished, come to the RoC as an EU national and enjoy exactly the same benefits and privileges as other British permanent residents do.

He could also get his RoC citizenship and enjoy everything like every other citizen. The problem is that for some racist TCs like Zan, having the same rights as everybody else is not enough. They want to have more than every other citizen just because he is "Turkish Cypriot".

Indeed, he could also resettle in Cyprus as a Cyprus citizen and enjoy more rights than I do, such as the right to vote and stand for election in national elections. Curious thing that - Cypriots living in the my country can vote in national elections there, but I can't vote in national elections if I live in their country. Maybe it is me who should be taking legal advice and prosecuting somebody.

Tim, the Cypriots that vote in National Elections in the UK are probably those who lived there for many years and got the citizenship. British people who received the Cypriot citizenship can vote in Cyprus elections like everybody else.

That's correct. EU citizens can only vote in Local Council Elections. You need to be a UK Subject (not citizen because of the Monarchy ) with residency, to vote in National / General Elections.

Actually, EU citizens can also vote (and stand for election) in European elections.

I know that Irish, Maltese and Cypriot citizens who are permanently resident in the UK can vote in national elections there regardless of whether they are citizens. That is because they are 'subjects' you say. Interesting. OK, I drop my threat of legal action.

You are right about the European Elections, but I thought we were just discussing individual states like Cyprus or UK.

So what's it to be Tim? A Cypriot Citizen or a UK Subject

(Added incentive: You can be tried for treason for disobeying the Queen!)

[Tim Drayton]

Zan, you are also a British citizen and could, if you so wished, come to the RoC as an EU national and enjoy exactly the same benefits and privileges as other British permanent residents do.

He could also get his RoC citizenship and enjoy everything like every other citizen. The problem is that for some racist TCs like Zan, having the same rights as everybody else is not enough. They want to have more than every other citizen just because he is "Turkish Cypriot".

Indeed, he could also resettle in Cyprus as a Cyprus citizen and enjoy more rights than I do, such as the right to vote and stand for election in national elections. Curious thing that - Cypriots living in the my country can vote in national elections there, but I can't vote in national elections if I live in their country. Maybe it is me who should be taking legal advice and prosecuting somebody.

Tim, the Cypriots that vote in National Elections in the UK are probably those who lived there for many years and got the citizenship. British people who received the Cypriot citizenship can vote in Cyprus elections like everybody else.

That's correct. EU citizens can only vote in Local Council Elections. You need to be a UK Subject (not citizen because of the Monarchy ) with residency, to vote in National / General Elections.

Actually, EU citizens can also vote (and stand for election) in European elections.

I know that Irish, Maltese and Cypriot citizens who are permanently resident in the UK can vote in national elections there regardless of whether they are citizens. That is because they are 'subjects' you say. Interesting. OK, I drop my threat of legal action.

You are right about the European Elections, but I thought we were just discussing individual states like Cyprus or UK.

So what's it to be Tim? A Cypriot Citizen or a UK Subject

I will keep you guessing.

[zan]

You paid for it and it has appreciated....

My land

my earnings....The fact that the "RoC" should never have gone into the EU is only now being realised...Too late I know but still......If there is a legal way I can

prosecute I will.....You guys are not exempt.....

.Greek property or TC property...

The wole of Cyprus is Cypriot property

and you guys are enjoying my privileges....It is no different to racketeers buying up cheep property in the Gaza strip all thanks to the Israelis...You simply should not be there.....I will await the legal advise.

Zan please allow me to answer your allegations

a. If it can be proved that I have bought land which has been misappropriated in some way I will gladly return the property to its rightful owner. do you agree that this should apply to properties in the North bought by Brits and other foreigners?

b.And this prosecution will also apply to my wife? ..Cypriot born and bred is she not entitled to live in her homeland because she is married to an EU national??

c. The fact is Zan I am able to live in Cyprus legally according to international law give me a reason why I should not be there

You also mention that I am enjoying YOUR privileges No one is stopping you returning to your home to regain your privileges but i do understand your reasons for not wanting to return in the present situation. However you can hardly blame me for thie current situation can you

You are on stolen land as it is part and parcel of he Zurich agreement...I will rely on legal advise Richard.....You are profiting from my homeland as much as any Brit in the TRNC....You land on TC land at Larnaca airport....You drive on TC land throughout your stay.....You live on the profits of the "Roc" which should benefit me first....

Guess you are unable to answer my questions then?

I thought I put them quite clearly but maybe I need to re-phrase them

As I said Richard...I am seeking legal advice and will do what is allowed me...As usual cyprus is not a simple issue....Does not make me think any more of you as regards my privileges...

[zan]

Some recommended reading for Zan:

1.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/enlargeme ... ult_en.htm

TREATY
concerning the accession of the Czech Republic, the Republic of Estonia, the Republic of Cyprus, the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Lithuania, the Republic of Hungary, the Republic of Malta, the Republic of Poland, the Republic of Slovenia and the Slovak Republic to the European Union

2.
http://www.fedee.com/nicetreaty.html

TITLE III of the EC Treaty concerning
FREE MOVEMENT OF PERSONS, SERVICES AND CAPITAL

Let us know if you find a loophole, mate.

Will do.......You can rest on ypur legal rights for now anyway but not on your moral ones....

[zan]

You paid for it and it has appreciated....

My land

my earnings....The fact that the "RoC" should never have gone into the EU is only now being realised...Too late I know but still......If there is a legal way I can

prosecute I will.....You guys are not exempt.....

.Greek property or TC property...

The wole of Cyprus is Cypriot property

and you guys are enjoying my privileges....It is no different to racketeers buying up cheep property in the Gaza strip all thanks to the Israelis...You simply should not be there.....I will await the legal advise.

Zan please allow me to answer your allegations

a. If it can be proved that I have bought land which has been misappropriated in some way I will gladly return the property to its rightful owner. do you agree that this should apply to properties in the North bought by Brits and other foreigners?

b.And this prosecution will also apply to my wife? ..Cypriot born and bred is she not entitled to live in her homeland because she is married to an EU national??

c. The fact is Zan I am able to live in Cyprus legally according to international law give me a reason why I should not be there

You also mention that I am enjoying YOUR privileges No one is stopping you returning to your home to regain your privileges but i do understand your reasons for not wanting to return in the present situation. However you can hardly blame me for thie current situation can you

You are on stolen land as it is part and parcel of he Zurich agreement...I will rely on legal advise Richard.....You are profiting from my homeland as much as any Brit in the TRNC....You land on TC land at Larnaca airport....You drive on TC land throughout your stay.....You live on the profits of the "Roc" which should benefit me first....

Make up your mind mate .If Cyprus is your homeland then what on earth are you doing recognizing an illegal regime that is the army created "trnc" !! Or was it in the Zurich agreement !

The same reason you recognise the blood thirsty regime known as the "RoC".....

[paliometoxo]

everyone recognises roc, yet only turkey recognises trnc doesent that telly ou anything about the invaded north of cyprus?