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[Oracle]

Forgive my complete ignorance on this matter, but how many TCs were killed by Turkish soldiers during the 1974 invasion?

We have reliable figures of several thousands of GCs killed by bombs, bullets, Napalm, manually etc. by the invading Turkish Army.

Unless they took precise and effective measures to distinguish between GCs and TCs, and since approx. 8,000 GCs were killed during the invasion; the TCs being 18% of the population, should have suffered about 1,500 casualties.

What steps did the Turkish Army take to avoid killing TCs? Or did they treat all Cypriots as fair targets?

[Kyrenia]

TCs killed by Turkish army?
As far as I know, the answer is zero.

How about TCs killed by Greek army/GCs in 1974?

[Piratis]

How about TCs killed by Greek army/GCs in 1974?

How about if you had not started the war to begin with?

Or you want to feel free to attack us, and then blame us because you also had some (less than us) casualties during the wars/conflicts you start against us?

[Get Real!]

During the Turkish invasion, Turkish Cypriots were being captured by Greek Cypriots to use towards prisoner exchanges with Turkey so it was in their interests that TCs be alive and well to get their own captured back who incidentally run into the thousands.

With the exception of around 65 TCs murdered by EOKA B in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha villages in retaliation to the advancing Turkish military, I’m not aware of any other TC killings during the invasion, and had the Turkish invasion never taken place the TC victims mentioned above would most likely still be alive today.

Btw, there are no known TC victims during the Greek coup that preceded the Turkish invasion.

[Oracle]

TCs killed by Turkish army?
As far as I know, the answer is zero.

That suggests they took very effective measures to protect one group of people, resulting in ZERO casualties amongst them; whilst causing maximum casualties to another (ethnic) group (GCs). Very selective!

Thank you "Kyrenia" for clarifying that they did not come in peace, as a guarantor power for Cyprus.

But (and this is what baffles me most), what were these measures which they had in place, to prevent killing any (ZERO) TCs? Fine if they were up against them one-on-one for identification. But what about during heavy bombardment? Were those areas definitely occupied, 100% by GCs, such that at the end of it all, ZERO TCs were even "accidentally" killed?

How about some of those TC missing? Could they not have been stranded amongst GC friends, and gotten killed alongside GCs by the Turkish fire? And now they are "missing"?

[iceman]

Stella
You have posted some pretty stupid posts in the past but this one takes the biscuit.
It just shows how clueless you are about the whole situation..where the hell were you in 1974?
Had you been in Cyprus you would know that after the coup,TC's isolated themselves from GC's for their security so there was zero chance of being "stranded" amongst GC friends in the areas fighting took place..

[Oracle]

Stella
You have posted some pretty stupid posts in the past but this one takes the biscuit.
It just shows how clueless you are about the whole situation..where the hell were you in 1974?
Had you been in Cyprus you would know that after the coup,TC's isolated themselves from GC's for their security so there was zero chance of being "stranded" amongst GC friends in the areas fighting took place..

Iceman
Kindly avoid getting personal. There are many things I do not know, and I admitted my ignorance on this matter at the outset.

However, you have stated a very effective measure of ensuring the safety of the TCs.

Within <5 days (coup to invasion), 50-60,000 TCs grouped themselves out of harms way, far enough from later bombs etc. and out of the way of the invading Turks, and what is more, the Turkish soldiers knew precisely where they were, to avoid bombarding, shelling, shooting near the TCs ... resulting in a most effective ZERO casualty rate at the hands of the (briefed?) Turkish forces.

Precision stuff ....

[halil]

During the Turkish invasion, Turkish Cypriots were being captured by Greek Cypriots to use towards prisoner exchanges with Turkey so it was in their interests that TCs be alive and well to get their own captured back who incidentally run into the thousands.

With the exception of around 65 TCs murdered by EOKA B in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha villages in retaliation to the advancing Turkish military, I’m not aware of any other TC killings during the invasion, and had the Turkish invasion never taken place the TC victims mentioned above would most likely still be alive today.

Btw, there are no known TC victims during the Greek coup that preceded the Turkish invasion.

You see GR , u proved yourself like Stella nothing you know about 74 .

TC's killed in 1974 by attacks of GC national guards and Greek Troops from Greece in these places .

Göçeri (Pileri) ,Kyreania Boğaz , ST.Hilarion castle area and Gonyeli village between 21 st and 23rd july . While Turkish army was skirts of the Kyrenia . Prove is in the Bogaz cemetery (sehitiği) . It is my area .

do some more search about the Pileri ,Boğaz and Gonyeli fightings or asked your own people who were involed around these places in 1974 .

How many times Pileri village is hand changed in 2 days .Only i know 17 Turkish Cypriots died in this village in one day fighting . This village was freed 24 th july by the Turkish paratroopes.

[kentish]

if the turkish forces had not arrived how many gc would have gc killed and then when the fighting would have spread how many tc would have been left alive
thank god for the turkish peacekeeping force which ultimately made inane posting on this forum possible

[YFred]

if the turkish forces had not arrived how many gc would have gc killed and then when the fighting would have spread how many tc would have been left alive
thank god for the turkish peacekeeping force which ultimately made inane posting on this forum possible

That is a new low by Oracle.

I can also inform you, that in 1974, GC army surrounded Lurucina with tanks and if TAF did not intervene to take out the tanks, you could have included 4000 civilians in TC casualties by GC army list, because they were not going to surrender. I still get goose pimples thinking about it.
I know the military methods used. Never you mind, you will have to work it out yourself. It was very accurate, thank god. You really are a little poisonous snake, aren't you Cyclops dear.

Gufi nase fai