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How many TCs were killed by the Invading Turks in 1974?

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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:34 pm

runaway wrote:
Oracle wrote:b]exclusively directed against members of one of two communities in Cyprus, namely the Greek Cypriot community[/b][/color]quote]

the Greek Cypriot community exclusively directed violence against members of one of two communities in Cyprus, namely the Turkish Cypriot community with the stupid dream of ENOSIS and hence attempted to commit genocide.


You are completely wrong. There was no violence directed against any TCs during the Coup. TC casualties occured AFTER the Turkish Troops invaded Cyprus.

The Coupists also had no intention of declaring ENOSIS.
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:54 pm

halil wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:my history of cyprus teacher said also some planes form greece came to help but where shot down by greek cypriots



Only i know during the seconed operation 1 Greek Phantom bombed our village .There was no casualties . He bombed the chickens barracks ( may be he thought it was a military barrack ) . It was unbeliveable how those chickens were yelling and everywhere was burning ..... months and months there was a smelled of those chickens .
By the way now owner of the that chicken farm owner is very rich now .

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The above Air Strike could be one example of TCs being attacked by the TAF.

We know for a fact that there were no Phantom operations over Cyprus.

The TAF did however have F-4E Phantoms in its inventory.

http://www.scramble.nl/tr.htm

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Postby insan » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:13 pm

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runaway wrote:Halil lol. they don't get it in writing so u decided to show the facts with drawings?:) This is still way complicated for them. You have to show the very basics: This is a gun. You kill me. Start with this.


Keep proving how skilled the Turks were at discriminately killing one ethnic group (read Genocide) ...

The European Commission of Human Rights reports of 1976 and 1983 state the following:

"Having found violations of a number of Articles of the Convention, the Commission notes that the acts violating the Convention were exclusively directed against members of one of two communities in Cyprus, namely the Greek Cypriot community. It concludes by eleven votes to three that Turkey has thus failed to secure the rights and freedoms set forth in these Articles without discrimination on the grounds of ethnic origin, race, religion as required by Article 14 of the Convention."


.... or will someone go against the Turkish propaganda, and admit the Turkish soldiers couldn't have been so omnipotent, but accidentally killed some TCs also? ... (Conveniently blaming the GCs perhaps, so that they don't lose "respect" as the blameless idols they have become in TC eyes.)


If there had been something like that, sure we would have heard it from the left wing of TMT, Afrika or some other 3rd parties. :D
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Postby insan » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:17 pm

On the other hand there had been several times that TCs had great difficulties to make Turks realize that they were really TCs; bcz of different TC dialect...
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:24 pm

insan wrote:On the other hand there had been several times that TCs had great difficulties to make Turks realize that they were really TCs; bcz of different TC dialect...


I was told some were shot. Long time ago, but I remember well.
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Postby Kyrenia » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:59 pm

Oracle wrote:
Kyrenia wrote:TCs killed by Turkish army?
As far as I know, the answer is zero.


That suggests they took very effective measures to protect one group of people, resulting in ZERO casualties amongst them; whilst causing maximum casualties to another (ethnic) group (GCs). Very selective!

Thank you "Kyrenia" for clarifying that they did not come in peace, as a guarantor power for Cyprus.

But (and this is what baffles me most), what were these measures which they had in place, to prevent killing any (ZERO) TCs? Fine if they were up against them one-on-one for identification. But what about during heavy bombardment? Were those areas definitely occupied, 100% by GCs, such that at the end of it all, ZERO TCs were even "accidentally" killed?

How about some of those TC missing? Could they not have been stranded amongst GC friends, and gotten killed alongside GCs by the Turkish fire? And now they are "missing"?


Sweetheart,

They come here for peace of course, because there was no peace in Cyprus which is clear. Now can you see any battle in Cyprus? Or any tanks of Greek Army running towards TCypriots?
I said "as far as I know" which means "If there is any, I don't know" . Turkey knew where terrorist camps were which reduced the "accident" in my opinion.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:03 pm

Can someone tell me how many villages were mixed nationality in 1974 just before the said period. Particularly near the fighting( excluding Pile) please?
I was under the impression that it was virtually none? Am I wrong?
Can anyone also put a figure on how many Turkish soldiers, sailors and pilots war lost?
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Postby kentish » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:17 pm

some of you lot like to potray yourselves as downtrodden martyrs

" ethnically cleansed" my arse. this horrible little phrase applies to nazis and serbs who killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people and erradicated them from their country completely

the fact is gc living north had to go south and tc living south had to go north, who is in fear of their lives now.get over it.if you are a tc and you want to live south ,go and if you are a gc and want to live north,go

but you must not forget if you do you will be a foreigner as the north and south are now two seperate countries with their own laws and customs
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:35 pm

Oracle wrote:Thank you GR!, Paliometoxo and Nikitas for casualties inflicted by Turks on Turks during the 1974 Invasion.

What I would like to find out about, are the TC casualties (civilian) inflicted by the Turks during their invasions.

The image portrayed (on forum) is that ZERO TCs were killed, intentionally or even accidentally, by the Turkish soldiers. Instead only the GCs are accused of any TC deaths and missing individuals.

How can they be so sure?

How can the Turkish soldiers have been so "skillful" to have killed so many (civilian) GCs, and yet avoid harming a single TC?

Iceman has suggested that the TCs banded together, and presumably let the Turks know exactly where they were.

YFred has said they have a secret technique, which he knows, but he won't tell us!

... This is how ridiculous their portrayal of these "Super-Soldiers" seems to be!


Nop. Never said no such thing. It was no secret. All the TC Mucahids new about it. It is standard military practice. If you had asked nicely like a normal human being, I would have told you, but as you are being rather reptilian, you will have to work it out yourself.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:50 pm

YFred wrote:Can someone tell me how many villages were mixed nationality in 1974 just before the said period. Particularly near the fighting( excluding Pile) please?
I was under the impression that it was virtually none? Am I wrong?
Can anyone also put a figure on how many Turkish soldiers, sailors and pilots war lost?


Morphou was mixed
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