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How many TCs were killed by the Invading Turks in 1974?

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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:26 pm

Get Real! wrote:During the Turkish invasion, Turkish Cypriots were being captured by Greek Cypriots to use towards prisoner exchanges with Turkey so it was in their interests that TCs be alive and well to get their own captured back who incidentally run into the thousands.

With the exception of around 65 TCs murdered by EOKA B in Aloa, Sandalaris, and Maratha villages in retaliation to the advancing Turkish military, I’m not aware of any other TC killings during the invasion, and had the Turkish invasion never taken place the TC victims mentioned above would most likely still be alive today.

Btw, there are no known TC victims during the Greek coup that preceded the Turkish invasion.


Or was it dual purpose, to use them as shields too? Did I read a post you criticising Hamas recently?

Surely it couldn’t it been EOKA, it was disbanded, you have the document to prove it!
God, I remember discussing this incident with my GC friends, at the time, they were adamant GC could not have done this. They were GCs killed by TA and had crescent star put on their necks to make the world think that GC killed them. What a claim?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:54 pm

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kentish wrote:if the turkish forces had not arrived how many gc would have gc killed and then when the fighting would have spread how many tc would have been left alive
thank god for the turkish peacekeeping force which ultimately made inane posting on this forum possible

That is a new low by Oracle.

I can also inform you, that in 1974, GC army surrounded Lurucina with tanks and if TAF did not intervene to take out the tanks, you could have included 4000 civilians in TC casualties by GC army list, because they were not going to surrender. I still get goose pimples thinking about it.
I know the military methods used. Never you mind, you will have to work it out yourself. It was very accurate, thank god. You really are a little poisonous snake, aren't you Cyclops dear.

Gufi nase fai


Why is it a new low?

Because you want to call it a "peace mission", whilst in reality it was an ethnically motivated specific attack on GCs, who up until the invasion by Turkey, had not harmed a single TC?

And how was this protection of 4,000 TCs, which you claim, effectively carried out by the Turkish army, without any TC casualties?

Even a simple storming of a hostage plane or building, with only a few hundred hostages, results in some casualties.

How were these Turkish soldiers able to save all 4,000 TCs from tanks etc. without inflicting a single casualty?

Methinks there is a cover-up afoot again!

Either the Turkish army was the most effective anti-GC killing machine, or they also inflicted casualties on the TC population. (And then it seems "buried" their victims, to remain as "missing", or supposedly dead at the hands of GCs.)
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:05 pm

my uncles friend tried to shoot at the turkish airoplanes passing nearly got them killed, imagine shooting witht he guns they used them days to hit a plane it wouldent even reach the bullet lol
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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:18 pm

Oracle wrote:
YFred wrote:
kentish wrote:if the turkish forces had not arrived how many gc would have gc killed and then when the fighting would have spread how many tc would have been left alive
thank god for the turkish peacekeeping force which ultimately made inane posting on this forum possible

That is a new low by Oracle.

I can also inform you, that in 1974, GC army surrounded Lurucina with tanks and if TAF did not intervene to take out the tanks, you could have included 4000 civilians in TC casualties by GC army list, because they were not going to surrender. I still get goose pimples thinking about it.
I know the military methods used. Never you mind, you will have to work it out yourself. It was very accurate, thank god. You really are a little poisonous snake, aren't you Cyclops dear.

Gufi nase fai


Why is it a new low?

Because you want to call it a "peace mission", whilst in reality it was an ethnically motivated specific attack on GCs, who up until the invasion by Turkey, had not harmed a single TC?

And how was this protection of 4,000 TCs, which you claim, effectively carried out by the Turkish army, without any TC casualties?

Even a simple storming of a hostage plane or building, with only a few hundred hostages, results in some casualties.

How were these Turkish soldiers able to save all 4,000 TCs from tanks etc. without inflicting a single casualty?

Methinks there is a cover-up afoot again!

Either the Turkish army was the most effective anti-GC killing machine, or they also inflicted casualties on the TC population. (And then it seems "buried" their victims, to remain as "missing", or supposedly dead at the hands of GCs.)

TAF = Turkish Air Force. Not the Army. How, you will have to find out yourself. When I found out how, it was impressive. I say it again, thank god for the TAF.
When I said in another post the Turkish Pilots were better than Greek Pilots, I may have said in a light hearted way. You will find that the TAF has great respect from almost all other nato memebrs.
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Postby halil » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:27 pm

paliometoxo wrote:my uncles friend tried to shoot at the turkish airoplanes passing nearly got them killed, imagine shooting witht he guns they used them days to hit a plane it wouldent even reach the bullet lol


palio ,

than compare the TC's and GC's gun powers before the invation .

many times in this forum it has been asked to TC's why the TC's did not resists against the ''invaders.'' to ask this question looks most of you does not know anything about 74 .

as soon as couped has been done most of the TC's were infear. What will happened . Speacial occasione was given ..... red alerts in TC's enclaves.

at 20 july 1974 morning as soon as landing started all the TC's enclave areas put under the heavy cannon and tanks fires .These places were Hamidmandrez , Gönyeli ,Boğaz ,Ağırdağ ,Pınarbaşı ,Göçeri and Dağyolu.

All the villages were under the heavy gun fires .It is easy for you to confirm this information from your fathers or uncles who were at that top of the fivefingers mountains or villages of Aymarina ,Yılmazköy ,Alayköy and area of Nicosia airport . I belive same actiones has been done at same times in Paphos ,Larnaka ,Limassol and Famagusta areas too .

And you are telling me no TC'S has been get killed under this fires . Just they have been captured for exchange purposes ..... We weren't at moon at time .....
Lots of things happened in Cyprus SİRS.....It did happened to Greek Cypriots and it did happened to Turkish Cypriots too ..... By trying hiding the truths does not help at all ....It does not help to me or to you ....
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:27 pm

YFred wrote:TAF = Turkish Air Force. Not the Army. How, you will have to find out yourself. When I found out how, it was impressive. I say it again, thank god for the TAF.
When I said in another post the Turkish Pilots were better than Greek Pilots, I may have said in a light hearted way. You will find that the TAF has great respect from almost all other nato memebrs.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the TAF bombed their own military ships in a mix-up.?
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:31 pm

my history of cyprus teacher said also some planes form greece came to help but where shot down by greek cypriots
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Postby halil » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:34 pm

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Postby iceman » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:37 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:TAF = Turkish Air Force. Not the Army. How, you will have to find out yourself. When I found out how, it was impressive. I say it again, thank god for the TAF.
When I said in another post the Turkish Pilots were better than Greek Pilots, I may have said in a light hearted way. You will find that the TAF has great respect from almost all other nato memebrs.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the TAF bombed their own military ships in a mix-up.?


that is correct...Incident happened of the coast of Paphos..
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Postby Medman » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:39 pm

Turkish Warplanes bombed a Turkish warships off Paphos thinking it was a Greek ship in 1974.
Greek forces shot down Greek commandos on approach to Nicosia airport, thinking they were Turkish planes. I believe the Operation was called 'Niki'.
The Americans have been shooting at everyone even their own forces be it Vietnam or the Gulf.

The fact is Cyprus got itself in the poo because each side blames one another. What has scared me is that according to a newspaper in the UK- Kebabs can kill and have a high proportion of saturated fat and can pound on the calories. Bang goes my take away on Friday. Chin up everyone!
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