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[yialousa1971]

Hello Miltiades,

I knew something was smelly when I first got the inquiry from a James Wilson for products that he saw on our web site. It's the same modus operandi that he used to me and I am attaching the e-mail that he sent me and my reply to him.

These thieves will not stop at anything! I got suspicious immediately when I read the letter with the usual style of writing that you get from the so called Nigerian scammers. well, here it goes:


Hi James,

As I have previously mentioned, we do not accept non-U.S. credit card payments. Also, as for your freight forwarder, we will ship the merchandise to them but we prefer that you deal with them as far as shipping cost and terms are concerned. In other words, I deal with your company for the cost of merchandise and freight going to your freight forwarder. We do not want to have anything to do with a freight forwarder as far as payment is concerned.

Please get back to me on this matter so we can process your order quickly. You can have your forwarder pick up the merchandise from our warehouse in Farmingdale, NY or I can ship the merchandise to them. I will charge you for the cost of the merchandise plus the freight to wherever they are.

We will only accept a wire transfer or a U.S. issued credit card with a form that the credit holder has to fill out and sign, and subjected to verification and approval of the issuing card company. I hope you understand.

Carlos

From: James Willson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:31 PM
To: Carlos Prieto
Subject: Delivery Information

Hello Carlos,
thank you for your reply and i think am okay with the estimate . And also would like you to proceed with the shipment . I will like to recommend you to TNA INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING COMPANY for the shipping of the shelving's to branch located in Singapore and will like you to email them with the total weight of the shelving's together with the pick up and delivery address , so that they can get you the shipping cost. below is my branch or delivery address:

Fun Lin Foundation Center
896 Dunearn Road,
#04-06B Sime Darby Center
Singapore 589472 Singapore

and below is also the contact information of TNA International Shipping Company Ltd.

INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING DEPARTMENT:
PERSON TO CONTACT:MR JAMES MILLER
SHIPPING COMPANY'S CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS:
[email protected] and [email protected]

i will like you to go ahead and contact them now and get back to me , so that i can provide you with my credit card for you to bill it for the total amount of the shelving's together with the shipping cost , i would be looking forward on hearing from you soon.

best regards
James Wilson

Do you know Miltiades? If so I feel sorry for you, please give him a slap from me.

[miltiades]

Hello Miltiades,

I knew something was smelly when I first got the inquiry from a James Wilson for products that he saw on our web site. It's the same modus operandi that he used to me and I am attaching the e-mail that he sent me and my reply to him.

These thieves will not stop at anything! I got suspicious immediately when I read the letter with the usual style of writing that you get from the so called Nigerian scammers. well, here it goes:


Hi James,

As I have previously mentioned, we do not accept non-U.S. credit card payments. Also, as for your freight forwarder, we will ship the merchandise to them but we prefer that you deal with them as far as shipping cost and terms are concerned. In other words, I deal with your company for the cost of merchandise and freight going to your freight forwarder. We do not want to have anything to do with a freight forwarder as far as payment is concerned.

Please get back to me on this matter so we can process your order quickly. You can have your forwarder pick up the merchandise from our warehouse in Farmingdale, NY or I can ship the merchandise to them. I will charge you for the cost of the merchandise plus the freight to wherever they are.

We will only accept a wire transfer or a U.S. issued credit card with a form that the credit holder has to fill out and sign, and subjected to verification and approval of the issuing card company. I hope you understand.

Carlos

From: James Willson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:31 PM
To: Carlos Prieto
Subject: Delivery Information

Hello Carlos,
thank you for your reply and i think am okay with the estimate . And also would like you to proceed with the shipment . I will like to recommend you to TNA INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING COMPANY for the shipping of the shelving's to branch located in Singapore and will like you to email them with the total weight of the shelving's together with the pick up and delivery address , so that they can get you the shipping cost. below is my branch or delivery address:

Fun Lin Foundation Center
896 Dunearn Road,
#04-06B Sime Darby Center
Singapore 589472 Singapore

and below is also the contact information of TNA International Shipping Company Ltd.

INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING DEPARTMENT:
PERSON TO CONTACT:MR JAMES MILLER
SHIPPING COMPANY'S CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS:
[email protected] and [email protected]

i will like you to go ahead and contact them now and get back to me , so that i can provide you with my credit card for you to bill it for the total amount of the shelving's together with the shipping cost , i would be looking forward on hearing from you soon.

best regards
James Wilson

Exactly the same " shippers" and dear old James too !!

[miltiades]

Here is the latest one :
This guy in Dubai place an order for 10 ovens costing £25,000.00
Naturaly we forward a pro forma invoice and here is his response:

""Dear Sir,
I have been advice by our client that i has him to forward payment to your account that
is financial services department made payment of
52,500.00 GBP into your account instead of 25,000.00 GBP as we agreed for the Items.

Due to erroneous blunder made by financial services the funds
mean for another account went into your account, But I have are sure them
that when the funds arrived you will deduct amount for the items and the rest
funds will be wire back, i will forward you the account to
returned the overage

So kindly confirm/acknowledge the payment and get back to me asap.
I do apologize on behalf of our client for any inconvenience this might have caused you. Please Accept my apology at this moment.
Stay Bless.
xxxxxxxxxx
Dubai.


--- On Thu, 2/12/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Fwd: RE: Sales Quotation For OVENS-05 E-56 LARGE GRIDDLE
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 9:26 AM

Thank you for your order , please see attachment for Pro Forma Invoice.
Kindly advice when funds have been transferred to our account.
Regards
John Savvides

[paliometoxo]

so what do you do with them? report to police?

[miltiades]

so what do you do with them? report to police?

Are you serious ?
If every time you received such requests and reported them the police would charge you for wasting police time . There are litteraly thousands of these scams . The funny thing is that this money will hit our account sometime next week and then will bounce out a week later .!!!

[CBBB]

A slight variation on the standard scams, but you would think they would try to write English less like a Nigerian!

[miltiades]

A slight variation on the standard scams, but you would think they would try to write English less like a Nigerian!

This guy is supposedly in Dubai and the head of a large chain of bakery shops .
I have had a similar one about 2 weeks ago only that time the guy was in the Netherlands buying for a chain of supermarkets items such as refrigeration and food prep equipment. We always respond and forward pro forma invoices . On one occasion I had a "draft" from a religious organization in the USA in the sum of $50.000.00 , he wanted me to send to an address in Ghana $5000.00 which was an overpayment from his remittance . We did not bother to bank the draft since a little search revealed that the genuine Christian organization in the States , whose name appeared on the "draft" knew nothing about it.
As far as this recent one the scenario develops so:
Our bank account will be credited with the sum in question , it will be naturally a fraudulent lodgement that the bank will discover within a matter of days. What this scamer is hoping is that we will rush to pay the "overpayment" he will request that we pay either by Western Union or CHAPS so that once our money gets into his pocket it can not be taken away .!!!!

[tcklim]

You'll love these sites....

http://www.thescambaiter.com/
http://www.419eater.com/

Not only do they respond to the scammers, they waste their time by making them do ridiculous exercises involving photos and videos..... i do believe one actually managed to get the scammer to pay for a fridge to Nigeria

[tcklim]

Take a look at the video on the front page ..... they actually got the scammer to film them an Ad for AnusLaptops, was crack-ing up... s'cuse the pun

[Hoki Lau Mat Ban]

Miltiades,
Thanks (from the States) for taking all the time to post this story. We're self-employed signmakers, and received a request for banners and flyers from "Rev. Wilson". My wife had already begun the research, obtaining the shipping weights, and almost compiling the quote before I decided to Google "Fun Lin Foundation Center", and came up with your post. Aside from the time we spent reading this thread, at least we haven't lost anymore of our valuable time on this matter. Such a bummer as we sure could have used a big order like this one at the moment. Back to focusing on the real jobs at hand.

Thanks again and best of luck to you.