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[Free Spirit]

Come on John let's have the rest of the story.

For everyones info I was subjected to an attempted scam over a £2k guitar that I have for sale.
It seemed too good to be true as the guy would send me a cheque and once it had cleared I was to send it via a carrier,
What my bank told me was that even after a cheque has cleared it can still be called back. So be warned

[paliometoxo]

really? but once its cleared you can withdraw it right? and you with draw the money and then send it?

[paliometoxo]

yeah we want to hear the rest of the story..

damn some people will do anything for a quick buck/euro/pound

[miltiades]

Your website is crap, it could do with updating.

Who asked you Miss Horgatoua

Your website asked for suggestions so I gave you some. Here's another one for you, why don't you put in big letters on your home page the following:-

"Miltiades Scrap Merchants, We Buy And Sell Any Junk"

You cheeky little horgatoua

I found Milti's website very good and it is obviously doing the job he needs.

What suppling all the Turks catering equipment for their Kebab shops.

Still waiting for your suggestions on how to improve my webside !

Get hold of the company that hosts your website and tell them you don't need their services anymore.

I hereby appoint kalamaroua as my we..t mistress

[miltiades]

yeah we want to hear the rest of the story..

damn some people will do anything for a quick buck/euro/pound

The scam works like this.
Funds are authorised , you then go ahead and send the money for freight , which you can NEVER reclaim , then a few weeks later your processing credit card co, issue a charge back notice and take back the funds. As Free Spirit said even when a cheque is cleared , if it was a fraudulent cheque , the bank can come back and take back the money out of your account any time , so it can even be a year or more down the line.
I have had a number of these "fraudulent " transactions on our website, the last one was in fact for a Pizza Conveyor oven costing £7800.00
the transaction was authorised on our system , we naturally did our security checks , as we do for large amount orders , and found that although they entered the correct address for delivery , ie the address where the card statements are sent to , the owner of the address knew nothing about the transaction , his card was in fact stolen and he was unaware of the loss.
What happens in these cases the fraudsters enter the correct details and request that they are notified in advance of the delivery date and time. They then request if its possible to deliver goods to their business address which normally turns out to be in an industrial estate where they meet the delivery truck and receive goods on the "doorstep" as it were .
They are very resourceful and can be quite convincing.

[paliometoxo]

so any large payments your very sceptical of them and check them make sure they are not scammers

[miltiades]

so any large payments your very sceptical of them and check them make sure they are not scammers

All Web transactions are first checked by our gateway operators , but even if the transaction is processed without any "warnings " there could still be come backs a few months down the line.
We carry our own "manual" security checks on anything that has a minor warning ie the number of the address or the post code do not match .
Most scammers are of African origin and mostly Nigerians .The scam market in Nigeria is the largest in the world followed by the Netherlands , Singapore and other African nations.
A little while ago we became the victims of identity fraud , we have recovered all funds taken fraudulently out of our account but it does cause a hell of a problem trying to rectify matters.
Last year a company business debit card was cloned and ended up being used in Sri Lanka which is the number one country for cloning cards .
It was also used in the USA . The cloning occurred at a petrol station , most petrol stations are manned by Sri Lankans . Since then we never use debit or credit cards for petrol.
On at least 3 occasions I was approached by a Sri Lanka customer and asked if I would " participate" in the cloning of cards . In my usual polite way I told him to fuck off !

[yialousa1971]

so any large payments your very sceptical of them and check them make sure they are not scammers

All Web transactions are first checked by our gateway operators , but even if the transaction is processed without any "warnings " there could still be come backs a few months down the line.
We carry our own "manual" security checks on anything that has a minor warning ie the number of the address or the post code do not match .
Most scammers are of African origin and mostly Nigerians .The scam market in Nigeria is the largest in the world followed by the Netherlands , Singapore and other African nations.
A little while ago we became the victims of identity fraud , we have recovered all funds taken fraudulently out of our account but it does cause a hell of a problem trying to rectify matters.
Last year a company business debit card was cloned and ended up being used in Sri Lanka which is the number one country for cloning cards .
It was also used in the USA . The cloning occurred at a petrol station , most petrol stations are manned by Sri Lankans . Since then we never use debit or credit cards for petrol.
On at least 3 occasions I was approached by a Sri Lanka customer and asked if I would " participate" in the cloning of cards . In my usual polite way I told him to fuck off !

You should have asked your Srilankan customer to clone you then you would have two brain cells instead of one.

[miltiades]

so any large payments your very sceptical of them and check them make sure they are not scammers

All Web transactions are first checked by our gateway operators , but even if the transaction is processed without any "warnings " there could still be come backs a few months down the line.
We carry our own "manual" security checks on anything that has a minor warning ie the number of the address or the post code do not match .
Most scammers are of African origin and mostly Nigerians .The scam market in Nigeria is the largest in the world followed by the Netherlands , Singapore and other African nations.
A little while ago we became the victims of identity fraud , we have recovered all funds taken fraudulently out of our account but it does cause a hell of a problem trying to rectify matters.
Last year a company business debit card was cloned and ended up being used in Sri Lanka which is the number one country for cloning cards .
It was also used in the USA . The cloning occurred at a petrol station , most petrol stations are manned by Sri Lankans . Since then we never use debit or credit cards for petrol.
On at least 3 occasions I was approached by a Sri Lanka customer and asked if I would " participate" in the cloning of cards . In my usual polite way I told him to fuck off !

You should have asked your Srilankan customer to clone you then you would have two brain cells instead of one.

May I refer my right honourable hargatoua to the answer I gave my Sri Lankan customer

[CPsells]

Hello Miltiades,

I knew something was smelly when I first got the inquiry from a James Wilson for products that he saw on our web site. It's the same modus operandi that he used to me and I am attaching the e-mail that he sent me and my reply to him.

These thieves will not stop at anything! I got suspicious immediately when I read the letter with the usual style of writing that you get from the so called Nigerian scammers. well, here it goes:


Hi James,

As I have previously mentioned, we do not accept non-U.S. credit card payments. Also, as for your freight forwarder, we will ship the merchandise to them but we prefer that you deal with them as far as shipping cost and terms are concerned. In other words, I deal with your company for the cost of merchandise and freight going to your freight forwarder. We do not want to have anything to do with a freight forwarder as far as payment is concerned.

Please get back to me on this matter so we can process your order quickly. You can have your forwarder pick up the merchandise from our warehouse in Farmingdale, NY or I can ship the merchandise to them. I will charge you for the cost of the merchandise plus the freight to wherever they are.

We will only accept a wire transfer or a U.S. issued credit card with a form that the credit holder has to fill out and sign, and subjected to verification and approval of the issuing card company. I hope you understand.

Carlos

From: James Willson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:31 PM
To: Carlos Prieto
Subject: Delivery Information

Hello Carlos,
thank you for your reply and i think am okay with the estimate . And also would like you to proceed with the shipment . I will like to recommend you to TNA INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING COMPANY for the shipping of the shelving's to branch located in Singapore and will like you to email them with the total weight of the shelving's together with the pick up and delivery address , so that they can get you the shipping cost. below is my branch or delivery address:

Fun Lin Foundation Center
896 Dunearn Road,
#04-06B Sime Darby Center
Singapore 589472 Singapore

and below is also the contact information of TNA International Shipping Company Ltd.

INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING DEPARTMENT:
PERSON TO CONTACT:MR JAMES MILLER
SHIPPING COMPANY'S CONTACT EMAIL ADDRESS:
[email protected] and [email protected]

i will like you to go ahead and contact them now and get back to me , so that i can provide you with my credit card for you to bill it for the total amount of the shelving's together with the shipping cost , i would be looking forward on hearing from you soon.

best regards
James Wilson