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[DT.]

Deniz, thankyou for the comments. I'd go around myself and round up some of these bastards on our side right now and I'd hope talat would swap them for that "agricultural minister" whom we've got on VIDEO doing the killing.

[Piratis]

Oracle says:


I'm shocked at you Deniz. I assumed it was some lowlife like "lovernomore" who wrote that silly comment .....


I am speechless. Nothing in Piratis stance on the Cyprus prob will endear me to him; alas. Its not the 'truths' he tells but what he conveniently omits that riles me. I am pleased you have come in to support him. He needs some TLC after all.

And why don't you tell me what I omit then? What I think, is that truth hurts you, and because you are not able to refute the truth with any arguments or facts, you just choose to call me names instead.

fact: Both sides had casualties and suffered during the wars and conflicts
fact: The wars and conflicts were started by Turks/TCs
fact: GCs had more casualties

So what do I omit?? I omit nothing. On the contrary it is you who conveniently chooses to ignore most of the truths. You choose to ommit the fact that it is the TCs/Turks who stared both the inter-communal conflict in 1958 and the 1974 war, and you also choose to omit the fact that you have committed more crimes against us, than we committed against you.

[denizaksulu]

There is a fundamental difference, which is conveniently ignored by Turks/TCs, between the murders in cold blood of civilians/POWs. The GCs were killed by the Turkish Army which represents the official RoT where the TCs were killed by illegal paramilitary organizations (Sampson, etc.) (The latter also killed many GCs as you know). Therefore don't blame the RoC and the vast majority of GCs for these murders.

Murderers are murderers whether in uniform or not. The people we are talking about have been illegally murdered, by one side or the other. They should all be brought to justice. Perhaps we know no one in Turkey has faced trial. Has anyone in Cyprus faced trial for illegal murders?

So you acknowledge the Turkish Army were not on a"peace"/saving mission but were murderers ....

If the claıms are true, then acts of murder dıd take place. That was not the orginal purpose of the Peace Operation.

Again you shock me!

Do you seriously think there was an original purpose, different to what actually took place?

These war crimes, presented by DT., took place on the FIRST day of the invasion .......

... changed course pretty fast wouldn't you say?

You are so easıly shocked Oracle. Do you think that the ordinary people at the time had any inkling of what was truly going on. All I knew at the time was that there was going to be a lot of unnecessary blood spilt on the ground. My fears came true. As to the hidden agenda's I did not have a clue. Did anyone else.? (Not after the fact - beforehand).

As I had posted a year ago, my refugee cousins from Kophinou were convinced that they would return to their village and were warned not to touch any of the posessions of the GC owner of the house they were given. What did you think us to believe.

[kurupetos]

You are rıght. I was surprısed at the RoC decısıon not to prosecute 'so as to encourage perpetrators to come forward, without fear of prosecution'. They must be having a laugh. My reaction of that is to protect their 'own'.

Don't judge too soon. What you initially heard were the unofficial opinions from various people as a first reaction, but it has started to pick up momentum 4 days on and now I know that the RoC government is looking into ways to best approach this matter.

In Turkey it has caused enormous commotion in a variety of ways, ranging from people complaining about not being aware that their country conducted war crimes, to others fearing of widespread repercussions within the state, and all sorts of other reactions for or against.

We shall wait and see. I must admit that the Turkish media has surprised me. With the 'Ergenekon' process in hand, I hope they dont take too long to 'investigate' all claims. That goes for all sides.
Some on the forum say that G or GC forces are 'clean'. Is that synonymous with 'uncaught'?

Regarding the 32 killed from Famagusta, a survivor of the massacre, who was a bank employee, has stated that the Greek Army personnel were involved. Lets hope the truth will come out.

Where is that Grim Reaper? .

What the RoC SHOULD DO is grab the 4-5 GC protagonists who went round bothering, harming, killing TCs and offer them herself to kickstart a war crimes prosecuting process. The main issue is which court to take this to... ie:

Aren't they dead?

[Get Real!]

You are rıght. I was surprısed at the RoC decısıon not to prosecute 'so as to encourage perpetrators to come forward, without fear of prosecution'. They must be having a laugh. My reaction of that is to protect their 'own'.

Don't judge too soon. What you initially heard were the unofficial opinions from various people as a first reaction, but it has started to pick up momentum 4 days on and now I know that the RoC government is looking into ways to best approach this matter.

In Turkey it has caused enormous commotion in a variety of ways, ranging from people complaining about not being aware that their country conducted war crimes, to others fearing of widespread repercussions within the state, and all sorts of other reactions for or against.

We shall wait and see. I must admit that the Turkish media has surprised me. With the 'Ergenekon' process in hand, I hope they dont take too long to 'investigate' all claims. That goes for all sides.
Some on the forum say that G or GC forces are 'clean'. Is that synonymous with 'uncaught'?

Regarding the 32 killed from Famagusta, a survivor of the massacre, who was a bank employee, has stated that the Greek Army personnel were involved. Lets hope the truth will come out.

Where is that Grim Reaper? .

What the RoC SHOULD DO is grab the 4-5 GC protagonists who went round bothering, harming, killing TCs and offer them herself to kickstart a war crimes prosecuting process. The main issue is which court to take this to... ie:

Aren't they dead?

I know a couple that are alive and well... one living in Mosphiloti.