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[insan]

What is political equality of major communities at community basis?
Don't tell me that there's no such thing because after the God created human beings; they invented many things to serve the needs of humanity.

[Piratis]

Cyprus is our country and we didn't invent any such thing.

If the Turks want to invent things, they should experiment in their own country, with the Kurdish community for example.

[insan]

Don’t ignore the unavoidable
By Alkan Chaglar

TURKISH CYPRIOT leader Mehmet Ali Talat was recently quoted by the Anatolian News Agency as claiming that Cypriots do not form one nation. He added that Cypriots are not one people but two.

“If there was one nation in Cyprus, there would not be any necessity for the political equality of two communities and for a federation. Some suggestions resemble such an approach, which disturbs us”, Talat said. He emphasised that a solution will be based on two peoples and appeared to focus more on what will be achieved on the powers of the constituent state – ignoring those of the federal state.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 4&cat_id=1

[insan]

Cyprus is our country and we didn't invent any such thing.

If the Turks want to invent things, they should experiment in their own country, with the Kurdish community for example.

There's no any correlations or similarities between the historical background of Kurds with us.

Kurds struggled together with Turks to liberate today's Turkey. Have we ever struggled together for such a common cause? No.

Most of the members of Turkish parliament r Kurdish origin. Is there any time in Cyprus that most of the members of Cyprus parliament were Turkish origin? No?

The seperatist Kurds or let's say liberalist Kurds, overwhelmingly live in neighbouring countries and demand land from 4 different countries for a seperate Kurdish state. Still there is no correlation and similarity between our problem and theirs.


The ancient Greeks that i doubt whether the current Greeks have any ancestral ties with them invented so many things to serve the needs of humanity. Why souldn't we do the same. We can be progresive towards democracy and improve it according to the needs of our communities. Equal representation in upper senate is a must to give the equal opportunity to the numerically small community in order to make it able to use it's political power effectively.

[Oracle]

If the Cypriots with Turk-Ottoman origins still wish to align themselves with Turkey and not Cyprus, then they have no place in Cyprus, which is an Independent sovereign nation, with a well-established pre-existing community of some several thousand years inheritance. This is not up for change by outsiders, and certainly not by some uninvited invaders.

The Cypriots as one community are part of the greater whole called the EU and then the world. There is no room to fit in Cypriots being part of Turkey, and then part of EU. Such an extra stratification is not necessary nor desirable by the majority, who are therefore under occupation to have their will and desire crushed, and Turkey forced upon them, and hence, subsequently these Turks to be forced upon our fellow EU members (the chosen wider community).

The EU needs to work with its smaller community of Independence-seeking Cypriots, to remove this invading community of Turks, which seeks to divide and conquer Cyprus for outsiders.

[Piratis]

insan, cut the jokes.

Yes, the Kurds are very different from the TCs.

1) The Kurds existed in Asia Minor long before any Turks set their foot there. TCs in Cyprus are the result of a relatively recent colonialism.

2) The Kurds have their own region, called Kurdistan. The TCs in Cyprus are a minority in all parts of Cyprus.

So, if anything, the Kurds in Turkey should have more power than the TC minority in Cyprus, not less.

So I tell you again, if you want to be "progressive" why don't you apply this "progress" in Turkey first?

The ancient Greeks that i doubt whether the current Greeks have any ancestral ties with them

Why you doubt? Did any of your ancestors claimed to have committed the perfected genocide against them?

[insan]

If the Cypriots with Turk-Ottoman origins still wish to align themselves with Turkey and not Cyprus, then they have no place in Cyprus, which is an Independent sovereign nation, with a well-established pre-existing community of some several thousand years inheritance. This is not up for change by outsiders, and certainly not by some uninvited invaders.

The Cypriots as one community are part of the greater whole called the EU and then the world. There is no room to fit in Cypriots being part of Turkey, and then part of EU. Such an extra stratification is not necessary nor desirable by the majority, who are therefore under occupation to have their will and desire crushed, and Turkey forced upon them, and hence, subsequently these Turks to be forced upon our fellow EU members (the chosen wider community).

The EU needs to work with its smaller community of Independence-seeking Cypriots, to remove this invading community of Turks, which seeks to divide and conquer Cyprus for outsiders.

Dear, i have no doubt that u r super intelligent but ur pre-judice supress ur intelligence.


Don't worry abt partition we can prohibit it with a fundamental law in our common constitution. Even we can put some basic tenets into our constitution such as improving our country's national identity towards a Cypriot nation state.

[Oracle]

If the Cypriots with Turk-Ottoman origins still wish to align themselves with Turkey and not Cyprus, then they have no place in Cyprus, which is an Independent sovereign nation, with a well-established pre-existing community of some several thousand years inheritance. This is not up for change by outsiders, and certainly not by some uninvited invaders.

The Cypriots as one community are part of the greater whole called the EU and then the world. There is no room to fit in Cypriots being part of Turkey, and then part of EU. Such an extra stratification is not necessary nor desirable by the majority, who are therefore under occupation to have their will and desire crushed, and Turkey forced upon them, and hence, subsequently these Turks to be forced upon our fellow EU members (the chosen wider community).

The EU needs to work with its smaller community of Independence-seeking Cypriots, to remove this invading community of Turks, which seeks to divide and conquer Cyprus for outsiders.

Dear, i have no doubt that u r super intelligent but ur pre-judice supress ur intelligence.


Don't worry abt partition we can prohibit it with a fundamental law in our common constitution. Even we can put some basic tenets into our constitution such as improving our country's national identity towards a Cypriot nation state.

Thank you for the kind offer, but we don't need your modifications.

[Get Real!]

What is political equality of major communities at community basis?
Don't tell me that there's no such thing because after the God created human beings; they invented many things to serve the needs of humanity.

???

This load of nonsensical rubbish doesn't belong in the CyProb section.

[Kikapu]

Equal representation in upper senate is a must to give the equal opportunity to the numerically small community in order to make it able to use it's political power effectively.

I agree with you Insan. Lets give every indigenous Cypriot community equal representation in the Upper House. The GC's, the TC's, the Armenians, and the Maronites all having equal power, therefore the Upper House's 100% power is divided 4 ways each holding 25% power each. It also means setting up 2 more states to accommodate the other two communities along with the GC's and the TC's.

This is what you meant by having equal Community Rights, did you not.?