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[SoSolidCrew]

Hello Guys,

Nice forum you have here. Despite, some GCs and TCs are having harsh feelings against, it is nice they still can communicate within the manners.

I am, a lawyer from Turkey, the country you called fascist, Mongolia, full of racists, idiots, blood thirsty people, sand niggers etc etc

Well, of course this is hate, and I am not willing to shake one of yours' hand and smile on your faces since what I see here is, you would be so pleased to kill me if you could do.

Whatever, I am sure you have reasons to want to kill me and burn my house, but still, no reason can give you that right.

That was just an entrance, prologue. What I want to write down here is, the worries of Turkey, against a united Cyprus.

Those are the common worries of common people. Not the government or army or the strategists. It is people of Turkey sharing the worries below.

So keep in mind, those may not be true, but as long as people keep thinking that way, there is no way the government or someone else can walk on a different path. So if South really wants a solution, they should convince those people of Turkey that their worries are not realistic.

You may say that Turkey is not related to Cyprus but we all know Turkey is, and as long as Turkey stands against, there'd be no solution for Cyprus... as long as South does not invade North one day, which would never happen.

So, Im gonna just list those 'worries' You are free to dislike those but you should now, those are the real facts in people's minds. And I hope, you are realistic as well.

1st: Turks thinks, in a 'United Cyprus', Turkish people on the island would be assimilated. Their languages, beliefs, cultures.. which is already damaged, Cypriot Turks have certain differences; so Turks afraid of a 'total Greekization of those Turkish Cypriots".

2nd: Turks believe on some othe islands, like Create, Greeks did mass-killings. It is fact actually, the historical records show over %80 percentage of Turkish population on the island in 1800s. It is unknown where are those people now. So Turks are afraid of same thing can happen again.

3rd: Turks think Cyprus would turn into a Greek base. Like Greek air bases, naval bases, missiles... And that would be a threat for Turkey.

4th: Turks know that Greek Cypriots hate them. So a Cyprus with Greek majority would be a "potential enemy" for Turkey. As like Cuba for USA. Why should Turkey let that? There might be mistakes, both sides did; but as long as South keeps considering ONLY Turkish Cypriots as "friends"; that 70 million populated country wont be greedy to have an enemy that close to herself.

5th: "What the hell is with Anatolian Turks living on the island" is the common thought of Turks. Cant you deal with a few thousands of people? What would happen to those married to Cypriot Turks? You are going to send the husband back to Turkey just because he is not "real Cypriot"? Its been 35 years, what about the 20s years olds? Teens? Who were born and raised on the island? You are gonna send them to a country that they havent seen, never? What if the mother is Turk and father is Cypriot? Which ones are you gonna send back? What about English and Greek people on the island? Can send them back again? You are UNREALISTIC.

6th: Turkey has good relationships with North today, as a natural result. What would happen with a "United Cyprus"? Can Cyprus be close to Turkey as close as she is to Greece?

That is a "never-gonna-happen" thing, but, for example, just an example, what if Turkey and Greece go into a war? Could Cyprus be 'neutral'? Could Greek Cypriots can feel exact same with Turkish Cypriots? Can Cyprus, as a whole, be close to both countries? The 'can be seem' answer is: No. No matter what happens, for Cyprus, Greek is the closest country, and then UK maybe. And you already hate, hate a lot from Turkey.

You already hate Turkish Cypriots, I've read that forum. Not all, but many of you call Northern people as 'idiots', 'mongolians', 'puppets' etc. That is not love. No, it is not. What can you do if those people one day start to harm Turkish Cypriots? Or attack a child just because his father is a Anatolian Turk?

Can you tolerate 'ezan'? Can you tolerate seeing a mosque in every city of yours with 5 times of 'calling to pray' every day?

Those are not 'politics'. Those are social problems you should solve first.

We all know, North is manipulated. But be realistic, South is not away from propaganda too.

Thanks for reading and not insulting me -whatever, I dont care-.

[paliometoxo]

thanks for you input, i think on both sides there is hate and on both sides there is want for re unification, turkey pretends the tcs are scared to re unite but i think its a show for the eu or an excuse to keep the army and hopefully(for turkey) show that the green line should always be there.

if they remove the troops they are showing they are not afraid of gcs and re unification wouldent be so bad so they keep the army there for show.

its 2009 not 1963 the old tc leaders living in the past

[paliometoxo]

i dont mean any offence by it but your nick sosolidcrew sounds like the nick a 15 year old gang member would have.. again i mean no offence by it

[Get Real!]

If Turkey was GENUINELY interested in the wellbeing of her people she would relocate them to Turkey, and look after them like royalty but instead prefers to leave them here in this predicament and add even more complications. The truth is, the Turkish Cypriots are made to endure these extraordinary circumstances so that Turkey will have a military foothold on the island of Cyprus, so you are NOT being honest with yourselves are you?

If Turkey prefers for them to stay on Cyprus, then assimilating with the overwhelming majority of indigenous Cypriots would in fact be the BEST way to ensure the safety and prosperity of Turkish Cypriots, but once again Turkey is NOT allowing them to do so and prefers to prolong their segregation for as long as possible for HER benefit.

To summarize the situation that Turkey has set up for Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus, (1) they cannot blend in with the locals and (2) they cannot be relocated & looked after as a whole in Turkey, but (3) they must forever be at odds with those they’re meant to peacefully and feasibly coexist!

Let’s face it… under these impossible circumstances that Turkey ensures for them only a God can help them!

So as you can see, Turkey is a DISHONEST country just as Greece was dishonest to Greek Cypriots, and that is why BOTH communities must abandon this destructive “community” approach and opt to become Cypriot citizens for their sake and forget about the “mother-countries” that are in fact nothing but trouble-making-countries!

[doesntmatter]

If Turkey was GENUINELY interested in the wellbeing of her people she would relocate them to Turkey, and look after them like royalty but instead prefers to leave them here in this predicament and add even more complications. The truth is, the Turkish Cypriots are made to endure these extraordinary circumstances so that Turkey will have a military foothold on the island of Cyprus, so you are NOT being honest with yourselves are you?

If Turkey prefers for them to stay on Cyprus, then assimilating with the overwhelming majority of indigenous Cypriots would in fact be the BEST way to ensure the safety and prosperity of Turkish Cypriots, but once again Turkey is NOT allowing them to do so and prefers to prolong their segregation for as long as possible for HER benefit.

To summarize the situation that Turkey has set up for Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus, (1) they cannot blend in with the locals and (2) they cannot be relocated & looked after as a whole in Turkey, but (3) they must forever be at odds with those they’re meant to peacefully and feasibly coexist!

Let’s face it… under these impossible circumstances that Turkey ensures for them only a God can help them!

So as you can see, Turkey is a DISHONEST country just as Greece was dishonest to Greek Cypriots, and that is why BOTH communities must abandon this destructive “community” approach and opt to become Cypriot citizens for their sake and forget about the “mother-countries” that are in fact nothing but trouble-making-countries!

GR the clown has made another joke, everyone laugh now.

[Piratis]

Turkey are hated for her actions against Cyprus. Why is not Egypt hated or Syria or Lebanon, ever thought of that?

Nobody wants to kill you or burn your house. What Cypriots want is to defend their own island from foreign rulers. The same goes for Greece. If Turkey decided to start showing some respect to the sovereignty of her neighbors then she wouldn't be hated. But when you occupy 1/3rd of our country and you constantly violate the airspace of Greece every day, then what did you expect? That we would see you as a friend and not as an enemy?

[insan]

If Turkey was GENUINELY interested in the wellbeing of her people she would relocate them to Turkey, and look after them like royalty but instead prefers to leave them here in this predicament and add even more complications. The truth is, the Turkish Cypriots are made to endure these extraordinary circumstances so that Turkey will have a military foothold on the island of Cyprus, so you are NOT being honest with yourselves are you?

If Turkey prefers for them to stay on Cyprus, then assimilating with the overwhelming majority of indigenous Cypriots would in fact be the BEST way to ensure the safety and prosperity of Turkish Cypriots, but once again Turkey is NOT allowing them to do so and prefers to prolong their segregation for as long as possible for HER benefit.

To summarize the situation that Turkey has set up for Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus, (1) they cannot blend in with the locals and (2) they cannot be relocated & looked after as a whole in Turkey, but (3) they must forever be at odds with those they’re meant to peacefully and feasibly coexist!

Let’s face it… under these impossible circumstances that Turkey ensures for them only a God can help them!

So as you can see, Turkey is a DISHONEST country just as Greece was dishonest to Greek Cypriots, and that is why BOTH communities must abandon this destructive “community” approach and opt to become Cypriot citizens for their sake and forget about the “mother-countries” that are in fact nothing but trouble-making-countries!

Let's assume all Cypriots forgot abt their mother-countries; their mother-countries - especially the Grand-pa Uncle Sam and his cousins in the EU won't forget the lil kid Cyprus. U consider this world like a wonderland or u pretend that u r not aware of why mother countries, cousins in EU, Grandpa Sam and Grandma Russia have interests on Cyprus. R u really not aware? For what purpose US formed EU and funded it? What is the globalization? Where this world going through?

[Get Real!]

If Turkey was GENUINELY interested in the wellbeing of her people she would relocate them to Turkey, and look after them like royalty but instead prefers to leave them here in this predicament and add even more complications. The truth is, the Turkish Cypriots are made to endure these extraordinary circumstances so that Turkey will have a military foothold on the island of Cyprus, so you are NOT being honest with yourselves are you?

If Turkey prefers for them to stay on Cyprus, then assimilating with the overwhelming majority of indigenous Cypriots would in fact be the BEST way to ensure the safety and prosperity of Turkish Cypriots, but once again Turkey is NOT allowing them to do so and prefers to prolong their segregation for as long as possible for HER benefit.

To summarize the situation that Turkey has set up for Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus, (1) they cannot blend in with the locals and (2) they cannot be relocated & looked after as a whole in Turkey, but (3) they must forever be at odds with those they’re meant to peacefully and feasibly coexist!

Let’s face it… under these impossible circumstances that Turkey ensures for them only a God can help them!

So as you can see, Turkey is a DISHONEST country just as Greece was dishonest to Greek Cypriots, and that is why BOTH communities must abandon this destructive “community” approach and opt to become Cypriot citizens for their sake and forget about the “mother-countries” that are in fact nothing but trouble-making-countries!

GR the clown has made another joke, everyone laugh now.

Laugh at a realist and you laugh at your face...

[Get Real!]

If Turkey was GENUINELY interested in the wellbeing of her people she would relocate them to Turkey, and look after them like royalty but instead prefers to leave them here in this predicament and add even more complications. The truth is, the Turkish Cypriots are made to endure these extraordinary circumstances so that Turkey will have a military foothold on the island of Cyprus, so you are NOT being honest with yourselves are you?

If Turkey prefers for them to stay on Cyprus, then assimilating with the overwhelming majority of indigenous Cypriots would in fact be the BEST way to ensure the safety and prosperity of Turkish Cypriots, but once again Turkey is NOT allowing them to do so and prefers to prolong their segregation for as long as possible for HER benefit.

To summarize the situation that Turkey has set up for Turkish Cypriots on Cyprus, (1) they cannot blend in with the locals and (2) they cannot be relocated & looked after as a whole in Turkey, but (3) they must forever be at odds with those they’re meant to peacefully and feasibly coexist!

Let’s face it… under these impossible circumstances that Turkey ensures for them only a God can help them!

So as you can see, Turkey is a DISHONEST country just as Greece was dishonest to Greek Cypriots, and that is why BOTH communities must abandon this destructive “community” approach and opt to become Cypriot citizens for their sake and forget about the “mother-countries” that are in fact nothing but trouble-making-countries!

Let's assume all Cypriots forgot abt their mother-countries; their mother-countries - especially the Grand-pa Uncle Sam and his cousins in the EU won't forget the lil kid Cyprus. U consider this world like a wonderland or u pretend that u r not aware of why mother countries, cousins in EU, Grandpa Sam and Grandma Russia have interests on Cyprus. R u really not aware? For what purpose US formed EU and funded it? What is the globalization? Where this world going through?

What exactly is your point?

[SoSolidCrew]

i dont mean any offence by it but your nick sosolidcrew sounds like the nick a 15 year old gang member would have.. again i mean no offence by it

no, it is just a fake nickname that came into my mind. Im not interested in being shot by a radical by giving my real details.

Afterwards, I still get no answers It is just "Turkey is that bad, Turkey is that evil"

If you keep going like that, without answers to the questions; you can have real solutions. And the result would be an island with two states as it is today.