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Paphitis

Do not forget that Olgac also confessed to Greek Embassy officials in 1980 and this has also been documented. There is obviously a case to be answered.

You are talking about the below case

Attila confessed his crimes to a Greek official 15 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrXK7PoFrU

Above is a clip from yesterday's RIK news (with English subtitles) in which Vasillis Giannopoulos, a former agent in the Greek intelligence services and current mayor of Nevrokopi in northern Greece, recalls an encounter he had 15 years ago, while he was serving at the Greek consulate in Smyrna, with a man he believes to have been Attila Olgac, who last week on Turkish television confessed to committing war crimes during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

Unless this greek intelligence official filmed the interview with him, and note the intelligence officer says he 'beleives to have been' (so hes not sure it is him) then there is nothing you can present in a court that will stand as EVIDENCE. Right now aside from his confession no one has anything on him whatsoever.

[CBBB]

Paphitis

Do not forget that Olgac also confessed to Greek Embassy officials in 1980 and this has also been documented. There is obviously a case to be answered.

You are talking about the below case

Attila confessed his crimes to a Greek official 15 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXrXK7PoFrU

Above is a clip from yesterday's RIK news (with English subtitles) in which Vasillis Giannopoulos, a former agent in the Greek intelligence services and current mayor of Nevrokopi in northern Greece, recalls an encounter he had 15 years ago, while he was serving at the Greek consulate in Smyrna, with a man he believes to have been Attila Olgac, who last week on Turkish television confessed to committing war crimes during the Turkish invasion of Cyprus.

Unless this greek intelligence official filmed the interview with him, and note the intelligence officer says he 'beleives to have been' (so hes not sure it is him) then there is nothing you can present in a court that will stand as EVIDENCE. Right now aside from his confession no one has anything on him whatsoever.

Surely a recorded confession made without any promptimg is rather significant?

[denizaksulu]

His attorneys will tell him to deny it- his commander if still alive will certainly not admit to ordering it and no one else will speak due to fears of being prosecuted themselves or simply because they have no reason to. He will say it was a big lie, which it very well might have been and thats where it ends. The chances of this guy being prosecuted are next to neil with a retracted confession on TV being the only evidence available.

Since its become clear that anyone suspected of such crimes will be prosecuted by the turkish state, i suspect any evidence of such crimes will very quickly dissapear in the next few years.

Do not forget that Olgac also confessed to Greek Embassy officials in 1980 and this has also been documented. There is obviously a case to be answered.

Are there any details of this previous 'confessions'. I have heard of it being mentioned but what details are available?

[Nikitas]

Two admissions of the same event, made under different circumstance and without duress begin to add up.

More interesting is today's Sener Levent article in Politis where he cites the story of a TC who was 17 years old in 1974 and was ordered to kill six GC civilian captives. He refused and got hell for it. He names his commander as captain Mehmet from Kaiseri. It would be interesting to see who ordered the actor to kill captives.

[Bananiot]

The bigots have revealed themselves, I need to say nothing else. What is strikingly impressive however is that so far it is the dreaded enemy that makes all confessions. Our silence would suggest that we did not committ murders of innocent people. We are greeks we do not kill in cold blood and if we do it is only because our hand is forced.

Bloody bigots!

[Bananiot]

Nikitas

More interesting is today's Sener Levent article in Politis where he cites the story of a TC who was 17 years old in 1974 and was ordered to kill six GC civilian captives. He refused and got hell for it. He names his commander as captain Mehmet from Kaiseri. It would be interesting to see who ordered the actor to kill captives.

You are being very selective Nikitas. This is a great diservice to the TC man you admire. You completely ignored Monday's article, where he writes about the murderers that still roam free in our community.

[Paphitis]

Nikitas

More interesting is today's Sener Levent article in Politis where he cites the story of a TC who was 17 years old in 1974 and was ordered to kill six GC civilian captives. He refused and got hell for it. He names his commander as captain Mehmet from Kaiseri. It would be interesting to see who ordered the actor to kill captives.

You are being very selective Nikitas. This is a great diservice to the TC man you admire. You completely ignored Monday's article, where he writes about the murderers that still roam free in our community.

Do you know the names of these murderers?

If so, name and shame them here. The community deserves to know who these low life scum are.

I will get the ball rolling by naming Glavkos Clerides, who YOU named as an accessory to murder as he discovered the identity of an EOKA B murderer but did not do anything about it.

Your turn!

[Bananiot]

More baby talk from Paphitis who thinks that murder is a joke. The leaders of the GC paramilitary groups, who terrorised, intimidated and murdered people are well known. Only fools and bigots need to be reminded.

[Paphitis]

More baby talk from Paphitis who thinks that murder is a joke. The leaders of the GC paramilitary groups, who terrorised, intimidated and murdered people are well known. Only fools and bigots need to be reminded.

Who were the leaders of these paramilitary groups and what evidence do you have that links them to any crime?

I am afraid it is easier said than done, to convict anyone on hearsay. However, I am sure there is some evidence out there, which is untapped, and if only the TCs came forward to testify. Then perhaps one by one these fanatics can be put on trial. As for Clerides, he man is scum for not convicting that EOKA B fanatic who you say confessed to him personally. Clerides should be ashamed of himself, and if he was a descent man he would have had him charged with the offence he admitted to.

This topic however is about Olgac who did admit that he killed 10 GCs. And he served in an army where there were hundreds just like him that were even worse. How many GCs were raped, are missing, were executed and had tongues, limbs and breasts severed from their bodies before receiving the coup de grace? He will perhaps be the only person on either side to confess his crime.