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Turkish TV actor faces war crimes charges

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 19094.html

[turkkan]

His attorneys will tell him to deny it- his commander if still alive will certainly not admit to ordering it and no one else will speak due to fears of being prosecuted themselves or simply because they have no reason to. He will say it was a big lie, which it very well might have been and thats where it ends. The chances of this guy being prosecuted are next to neil with a retracted confession on TV being the only evidence available.

Since its become clear that anyone suspected of such crimes will be prosecuted by the turkish state, i suspect any evidence of such crimes will very quickly dissapear in the next few years.

[Get Real!]

His attorneys will tell him to deny it- his commander if still alive will certainly not admit to ordering it and no one else will speak due to fears of being prosecuted themselves or simply because they have no reason to. He will say it was a big lie, which it very well might have been and thats where it ends. The chances of this guy being prosecuted are next to neil with a retracted confession on TV being the only evidence available.

Since its become clear that anyone suspected of such crimes will be prosecuted by the turkish state, i suspect any evidence of such crimes will very quickly dissapear in the next few years.

Thanks for sharing your hopes with us… now stay tuned on this forum as I update you with the realities.

[DT.]

His attorneys will tell him to deny it- his commander if still alive will certainly not admit to ordering it and no one else will speak due to fears of being prosecuted themselves or simply because they have no reason to. He will say it was a big lie, which it very well might have been and thats where it ends. The chances of this guy being prosecuted are next to neil with a retracted confession on TV being the only evidence available.

Since its become clear that anyone suspected of such crimes will be prosecuted by the turkish state, i suspect any evidence of such crimes will very quickly dissapear in the next few years.

woud you like him, his commanding officer and anyone else to blame to be punished if what he says is true?

[askimwos]

GR lets not pretent that the GC is a society of angels. I can understand why for all these years nobody touched the issue of murders carried out between 1963-67 by well known gangs of GCs against TC citizens. The GC society was split the years that followed 1974 into coupists and anticoupists, there were issues of greater importance to solve like the housing of 200,000 refugees, the reconstruction of the economy, etc and successive governments prefered not to open the Cyprus File.
We have all heard rumors and stories of GC extremists killing TCs and vice versa. Unfortunately, unless people are actively encouraged by the government and the parliament to come forward and give information about these incidents there will never be reconciliation. We claim to be the victims of what happened to our country, but we must not forget that the TCs have also, in many cases, also suffered and are also waiting justice to be done.
I think it is time for the government and the parliament to take all the necessary steps for these incidents to be thouroughly investigated and the murderers to be brought to justice.

[Paphitis]

His attorneys will tell him to deny it- his commander if still alive will certainly not admit to ordering it and no one else will speak due to fears of being prosecuted themselves or simply because they have no reason to. He will say it was a big lie, which it very well might have been and thats where it ends. The chances of this guy being prosecuted are next to neil with a retracted confession on TV being the only evidence available.

Since its become clear that anyone suspected of such crimes will be prosecuted by the turkish state, i suspect any evidence of such crimes will very quickly dissapear in the next few years.

Do not forget that Olgac also confessed to Greek Embassy officials in 1980 and this has also been documented. There is obviously a case to be answered.

[Get Real!]

GR lets not pretent that the GC is a society of angels. I can understand why for all these years nobody touched the issue of murders carried out between 1963-67 by well known gangs of GCs against TC citizens. The GC society was split the years that followed 1974 into coupists and anticoupists, there were issues of greater importance to solve like the housing of 200,000 refugees, the reconstruction of the economy, etc and successive governments prefered not to open the Cyprus File.
We have all heard rumors and stories of GC extremists killing TCs and vice versa. Unfortunately, unless people are actively encouraged by the government and the parliament to come forward and give information about these incidents there will never be reconciliation. We claim to be the victims of what happened to our country, but we must not forget that the TCs have also, in many cases, also suffered and are also waiting justice to be done.
I think it is time for the government and the parliament to take all the necessary steps for these incidents to be thouroughly investigated and the murderers to be brought to justice.

As a faithful communist, you voted-in this government no doubt in the hope that justice would prevail... now pass along your recommendations to Christofias who can make a difference, because I was the first to suggest a goodwill move by the RoC by arresting and charging GC perpetrators, many days ago.

[Paphitis]

GR lets not pretent that the GC is a society of angels. I can understand why for all these years nobody touched the issue of murders carried out between 1963-67 by well known gangs of GCs against TC citizens. The GC society was split the years that followed 1974 into coupists and anticoupists, there were issues of greater importance to solve like the housing of 200,000 refugees, the reconstruction of the economy, etc and successive governments prefered not to open the Cyprus File.
We have all heard rumors and stories of GC extremists killing TCs and vice versa. Unfortunately, unless people are actively encouraged by the government and the parliament to come forward and give information about these incidents there will never be reconciliation. We claim to be the victims of what happened to our country, but we must not forget that the TCs have also, in many cases, also suffered and are also waiting justice to be done.
I think it is time for the government and the parliament to take all the necessary steps for these incidents to be thouroughly investigated and the murderers to be brought to justice.

As a faithful communist, you voted-in this government no doubt in the hope that justice would prevail... now pass along your recommendations to Christofias who can make a difference, because I was the first to suggest a goodwill move by the RoC by arresting and charging GC perpetrators, many days ago.

I think most GCs would like to see some GC fanatics face justice. The question is, do we know who exactly committed crimes such as murder?

The TCs need to come forward and tell us whatever they know.

We must however differentiate between TMT combattant casualties, who were fighting for TAKSIM, and innocent TC vctims of the intercommunal violence.

[turkkan]

woud you like him, his commanding officer and anyone else to blame to be punished if what he says is true?

I would have no problem provided everyone who was involved in these acts on both sides were brought to justice. To single handedly single him out when people like Sampson were given an amnesty by the ROC and was allowed to die peacefully in his bed would be a bit hypocritical.

Thanks for sharing your hopes with us… now stay tuned on this forum as I update you with the realities.

I will bookmark this page and we will see which one of us will turn out right in the future then.

[askimwos]

Paphitis, that's why I wrote about murders and not combatants that were killed in the exchange of fire.

GR, I will ignore your comment about being a communist since this is irrelevant to the topic. When I say that people should be encouraged to come forward and speak out, I am talking about TCs that may have been eyewitnesses and in many cases know who the perpetrators were.