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[zan]

Bananiot said:

"What we need right now is to put all these behind us. "

Precisely! That is why the RoC government has a policy in place whereby Turkish army personnel who committed war crimes in 1974 are given immunity in return for their statements. This has already happened in at least one case and was referred to last night by the Attorney General.

The idea that the official policy of depopulation of northern Cyprus via terrorising its inhabitants cannot be forgotten.

As for the bigots you mention Bananiot it is amazing to see the vehemence with which some people in this forum are defending the non existent honor of the invading army.

We only have you to compare them too.......Do you have stories of Turkish soldiers massacring TCs by the hundred????

[mariacyp]

H lysi einai mia
Na fygoun ola ta parasita apo tin Kypro kai na meinoyn monoi toys oi Kyprioi na lysoyn ta provlimata toys.

Afto omws einai ena oneiro therinis nyxtos.

Ta megala synferonta den prokeite pote na kanoyn pisw. Mono otan h Agglia kai h Ameriki kanoy pisw tha gini.

BANANIOT
As long USA and UK are involved we will not find a solution. They will always pocking both sides.


Pio Anan Plan milate? Pistevete oti afto to plan to ekane o Anan kai oxi kapoios allos?

[mariacyp]

Zan wote: Do you have stories of Turkish soldiers massacring TCs by the hundred????


Zan the Turkish army is killing the TCs every day by taking away from them THE FREDOM OF RIGHTS

[Kifeas]

This has gone far enough, thanks to the efforts of the bigots of this forum. I can only talk about the bigots of my side. Whatever happens they are only interested in proving one thing: That Turkey is a barbarian nation. Their biggest fear is if we do arrive at an agreement and we live together in harmony with the TC's. In this case their dream will be shattered.

In the very first post I made in this thread I wrote that the claim of Atila was probably genuine. However, we do not need this proof in order to show that atrocities were committed. We have unearthed bones where their tragic owner was shot at the back of the head with his hands tied behind the back. Sevgul reported that prisoners that were to be transported to Nicosia and perhaps to Turkey, were summarily executed when the mass graves at Aloa, Sandalaris and Maratha were discovered.

Right now we do not need further proof of these atrocities. What we need right now is to put all these behind us. We need to solve the problem with peaceful, political means, after admitting that both sides are responsible for causing great suffering. We need to isolate the bigots in both communities, face the fact that these sick bigots have turned a peaceful, agricultural people like the Cypriots into cold killing machines that did unspeakable things to each other. Perhaps, keep us slightly apart (Annan Plan) for a while and hope that in a few years, when the bigots that poisoned the hearts and minds of people have said goodye to this world, our children and their children can live again together in a united Cyprus, as we should have lived in the life the bigots took away from us.

Turkish troops committed atrocities against both military and civilians, and executed hostages, well before the Aloa-Sandalaris-Maratha atrocities were committed on the 14th of August 1974. There are numerous reports of such, during the 1st phase of the invasion, between 20th and 23rd July 1974, and if you carefully check the list of GC missing people you will realize that the majority of those have been last seen or originate from the period and /or area of Cyprus in which the first phase took place. Therefore, to indirectly claim that Turkish atrocities were in response to GC atrocities -and not rather vice versa based on referred dates, is rather misleading.

[paliometoxo]

Nampou laleis maria? Gt pisteukeis oti oi kypraioi en mporoun twra pu en i agglia jai i ameriki?

[Bananiot]

This will lead us to Piratis theory. They started it first in the 16th century by invading Cyprus (which had already been invaded and held by others ...).

What came first, the chicken or the egg? Ask this question and kiss solution away, until the next conflict brings different criteria to the fore and a few thousands more souls seeking paradise.

[Kifeas]

This will lead us to Piratis theory. They started it first in the 16th century by invading Cyprus (which had already been invaded and held by others ...).

What came first, the chicken or the egg? Ask this question and kiss solution away, until the next conflict brings different criteria to the fore and a few thousands more souls seeking paradise.

You started by implying it, and your comments are there to be seen by everyone!

[zan]

Zan wote: Do you have stories of Turkish soldiers massacring TCs by the hundred????


Zan the Turkish army is killing the TCs every day by taking away from them THE FREDOM OF RIGHTS

What do you say to my rights being returned under the Zurich agreement maria???

[zan]

This has gone far enough, thanks to the efforts of the bigots of this forum. I can only talk about the bigots of my side. Whatever happens they are only interested in proving one thing: That Turkey is a barbarian nation. Their biggest fear is if we do arrive at an agreement and we live together in harmony with the TC's. In this case their dream will be shattered.

In the very first post I made in this thread I wrote that the claim of Atila was probably genuine. However, we do not need this proof in order to show that atrocities were committed. We have unearthed bones where their tragic owner was shot at the back of the head with his hands tied behind the back. Sevgul reported that prisoners that were to be transported to Nicosia and perhaps to Turkey, were summarily executed when the mass graves at Aloa, Sandalaris and Maratha were discovered.

Right now we do not need further proof of these atrocities. What we need right now is to put all these behind us. We need to solve the problem with peaceful, political means, after admitting that both sides are responsible for causing great suffering. We need to isolate the bigots in both communities, face the fact that these sick bigots have turned a peaceful, agricultural people like the Cypriots into cold killing machines that did unspeakable things to each other. Perhaps, keep us slightly apart (Annan Plan) for a while and hope that in a few years, when the bigots that poisoned the hearts and minds of people have said goodye to this world, our children and their children can live again together in a united Cyprus, as we should have lived in the life the bigots took away from us.

Turkish troops committed atrocities against both military and civilians, and executed hostages, well before the Aloa-Sandalaris-Maratha atrocities were committed on the 14th of August 1974. There are numerous reports of such, during the 1st phase of the invasion, between 20th and 23rd July 1974, and if you carefully check the list of GC missing people you will realize that the majority of those have been last seen or originate from the period and /or area of Cyprus in which the first phase took place. Therefore, to indirectly claim that Turkish atrocities were in response to GC atrocities -and not rather vice versa based on referred dates, is rather misleading.

Did you witness the landing Kifeas.....Did the Turkish soldiers carry their own bags or did hey have porters accompanying them???

[Nikitas]

Bananiot,

You are looking at this issue of atrocities from a narrow point of view. If it could all be left between the two parties involved then all would be fine. But the issue often spills over into a wider context which is why there are trials going on now against people who committed war crimes in Yugoslavia and Rwanda.

There is also the need of those who committed under orders to speak out.

It is already clear that Cyprus is not seeking to prosecute or punish any individual involved. This was restated by the Attorney General last night.

From a more personal point of view, I want to know who and why drew up the policy of terror in the north during the invasion.