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[runaway]

All Cypriots are equal. 1 vote per person. That's equality, that's democracy.

Also that flag you have on your avatar is the flag that is assimilating our population greatly, if all you do is want to argue with GreekCypriots then you shouldn't be on this forum.

As for Fred, if you think that is a racist comment... Then get your self a dictionary and check what the word RACIST means mate.

I am Turkish and the ones who r assimilating you r the ones who attacked your people a couple of days ago showing their hate once again.

[YFred]

"Show me one country that has taken onboard any conventions of war."

Well, we must admit that the ELDYK soldiers who fought in Cyprus in 1974 kept to the rules of war. There is not one single incident of rape or otherwise harming civilians by them. They had the opportunity to harm civilians if they were so inclined in villages northwest of Nicosia where they came in contact with TC civilians, they did not.

Does Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar mean anything to you? All civilian men, women and children wiped out. Are you totally oblivious to the atrocities committed by Greek Cypriot Army.

Forgive me but I do not know who ELDYK soldiers are.

Good example of what I have been talking about.

Do you know when those events took place YFred?

The Turkish invasion that murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots was on July 20th 1974. Now give me the dates for the events you describe.

When you find the dates you will see, that as always it is the Turks who started the war and the atrocities, and then they come here to present themselves as the innocent ones because during the war they started they also had some casualties!

There is not one single incident of rape or otherwise harming civilians by them

Are you saying this is true?
And was this not done by the retreating GC Army?
What is it you want, the day date hour minute and second?
What are you a crack pot? You can’t have a debate with an illogical person.
Was this not a crime because the murdered were TCs?
Are you saying the TC’s started it so its not a crime?
What are you talking about?

[YFred]

I'm sorry to all GC brothers that have lost a family member and lost their homes

Should that not be all Cypriots? that is such a racist thing to say. I wouldn't mind if it comes from an extreme GC, but if its from a so called moderate, God help us all.
Or have we come full circle again?

I think Pink Floyd will be suing you for defamation shortly ....

Surely Led Zeppelin would have done it first. Or did you not recognise Physical Graffiti album cover.

Have you had a chance to hear the music I put on to Nazim Hikmet thread. Or are you too embarrassed to be associated with Faranturi.

[YFred]

I'm sorry to all GC brothers that have lost a family member and lost their homes

Should that not be all Cypriots? that is such a racist thing to say. I wouldn't mind if it comes from an extreme GC, but if its from a so called moderate, God help us all.
Or have we come full circle again?

Yes it should be Cypriots. Many innocent people from both sides have died in those wars and conflicts.

The problem is that in all cases the Turks (= their ruling elite - which has always been the military) has always been looking for excuses to start those wars and conflicts during which all those people died. And they continue looking for excuses today to continue the war and their illegal occupation.

Don't you think is time to stop the lame excuses and finally allow democracy and human rights for Cyprus? Or you want to continue the war in your effort to steal our lands and take away our human and democratic rights?

You are a reasonable man I think but you have a slight blindness.
The Turkey and Greece were put up to do their bit. The problem was that Cyprus was non-aligned country which the USA disliked. Greece encouraged the fascist to attack. You gave Turkey not an excuse but a reason to attack. If they did not come to the TC’s aid, I believe that not one of my relatives who live in Cyprus would be alive today. And Cyprus became part of Nato.

Are GC’s not aware of their own history?

[YFred]

All Cypriots are equal. 1 vote per person. That's equality, that's democracy.

Also that flag you have on your avatar is the flag that is assimilating our population greatly, if all you do is want to argue with GreekCypriots then you shouldn't be on this forum.

As for Fred, if you think that is a racist comment... Then get your self a dictionary and check what the word RACIST means mate.

I am Turkish and the ones who r assimilating you r the ones who attacked your people a couple of days ago showing their hate once again.

That is why Talat is in negotiations to make sure the TC's feel safe in their homes.

[Piratis]

"Show me one country that has taken onboard any conventions of war."

Well, we must admit that the ELDYK soldiers who fought in Cyprus in 1974 kept to the rules of war. There is not one single incident of rape or otherwise harming civilians by them. They had the opportunity to harm civilians if they were so inclined in villages northwest of Nicosia where they came in contact with TC civilians, they did not.

Does Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar mean anything to you? All civilian men, women and children wiped out. Are you totally oblivious to the atrocities committed by Greek Cypriot Army.

Forgive me but I do not know who ELDYK soldiers are.

Good example of what I have been talking about.

Do you know when those events took place YFred?

The Turkish invasion that murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots was on July 20th 1974. Now give me the dates for the events you describe.

When you find the dates you will see, that as always it is the Turks who started the war and the atrocities, and then they come here to present themselves as the innocent ones because during the war they started they also had some casualties!

There is not one single incident of rape or otherwise harming civilians by them

Are you saying this is true?
And was this not done by the retreating GC Army?
What is it you want, the day date hour minute and second?
What are you a crack pot? You can’t have a debate with an illogical person.
Was this not a crime because the murdered were TCs?
Are you saying the TC’s started it so its not a crime?
What are you talking about?

YFred, isn't it you who said: "That’s what happens in war. Atrocities committed by both sides." ?

What I am talking about is clear:

1) It is the Turks who started the war.
2) The Turks have killed, raped, ethnically cleansed and committed way more atrocities against us during the war.

Are you seriously trying to blame us because you had X number of casualties during a war which you started and during which we had 10X casualties??

And then you are talking about my logic?

[Piratis]

I'm sorry to all GC brothers that have lost a family member and lost their homes

Should that not be all Cypriots? that is such a racist thing to say. I wouldn't mind if it comes from an extreme GC, but if its from a so called moderate, God help us all.
Or have we come full circle again?

Yes it should be Cypriots. Many innocent people from both sides have died in those wars and conflicts.

The problem is that in all cases the Turks (= their ruling elite - which has always been the military) has always been looking for excuses to start those wars and conflicts during which all those people died. And they continue looking for excuses today to continue the war and their illegal occupation.

Don't you think is time to stop the lame excuses and finally allow democracy and human rights for Cyprus? Or you want to continue the war in your effort to steal our lands and take away our human and democratic rights?

You are a reasonable man I think but you have a slight blindness.
The Turkey and Greece were put up to do their bit. The problem was that Cyprus was non-aligned country which the USA disliked. Greece encouraged the fascist to attack. You gave Turkey not an excuse but a reason to attack. If they did not come to the TC’s aid, I believe that not one of my relatives who live in Cyprus would be alive today. And Cyprus became part of Nato.

Are GC’s not aware of their own history?

What you are talking about is not "history" but your own imaginary scenarios.

The historical facts are that there was a coup in Cyprus (like the many that happened in Turkey) and Turkey found that weak moment of Cyprus an ideal time to invade and put into action the partition plan they had since the 50s by start killing and ethnically cleansing Greek Cypriots. TCs also died during the war, but only after Turkey invaded, and in numbers much less than the GC casualties. These are the facts

The Junta ruled Greece for several years and nothing happened to the Turkish minority in Greece (nothing worst than what happened to Greek citizens as a whole - who all suffered under the junta). So your scenarios are not only imaginary, but they are also baseless. They become even more baseless when you consider that the Junta in Athens fall soon after the invasion, but the Turkish troops not only didn't withdraw, but they continued with the second phase of the invasion.

This is why the UN issued a resolution demanding the withdrawal of all foreign troops from Cyprus and the respect of the sovereignty of RoC. The Turks had no reason to occupy our lands and ethnically cleanse us. They just used some lame excuse, which was not accepted.

[denizaksulu]

"Show me one country that has taken onboard any conventions of war."

Well, we must admit that the ELDYK soldiers who fought in Cyprus in 1974 kept to the rules of war. There is not one single incident of rape or otherwise harming civilians by them. They had the opportunity to harm civilians if they were so inclined in villages northwest of Nicosia where they came in contact with TC civilians, they did not.

Does Murataga, Atlilar and Sandallar mean anything to you? All civilian men, women and children wiped out. Are you totally oblivious to the atrocities committed by Greek Cypriot Army.

Forgive me but I do not know who ELDYK soldiers are.

Good example of what I have been talking about.

Do you know when those events took place YFred?

The Turkish invasion that murdered 1000s and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Greek Cypriots was on July 20th 1974. Now give me the dates for the events you describe.

When you find the dates you will see, that as always it is the Turks who started the war and the atrocities, and then they come here to present themselves as the innocent ones because during the war they started they also had some casualties!

It's ok for the Greeks and GCs, they got Piratis to defend them and brainwash them with a load of lies and BS.

R u sure u r in Canada? Very bad English indeed.I am sure u r even worse speaking English with ur funny Greek accent of yours. Laughing Grow up and feel sorry for the TCs u ve killed.

I like it how when the Turkish aggressors can not dispute the facts that I give, but they still keep trying to present themselves as the innocent ones and the Greek Cypriots as the "evils" despite the facts that:

1) They are the ones who started the wars and conflicts during which both sides suffered and had casualties.

2) Their suffering and casualties are a drop in the ocean when compared to the casualties and suffering of GCs, both in terms of numbers as well as in terms of amount of time.

You are beyond belief Piratis. 'Talking' to you is like talking to a wall. Carry on patting yourself on the back and you will eventually believe yourself. Listening to your'broken' record is so funny.

[halil]

to understand Cyprus problem Pirates you better read below archives.

archives dates are covers 1968-1975 period .They are not Turkish propaganda !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.glafkosclerides.com.cy/Archives.aspx

[mariacyp]

R u sure u r in Canada? Very bad English indeed.I am sure u r even worse speaking English with ur funny Greek accent of yours. Grow up and feel sorry for the TCs u ve killed.[/quote]

You are one example for what I wrote above.

Attila is the one o TV claiming he killed 10 unarmed people.
And where is he from? Oh I forgot he is a famous actor from TURKEY