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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:58 pm

Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:00 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:04 pm

zan wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:08 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out


That opens the discussion into a world that I don't think you like going into Tim......We could b here all night!!! 8)
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:11 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out


That opens the discussion into a world that I don't think you like going into Tim......We could b here all night!!! 8)


I will have leave this one for the night watch, then.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:12 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out


That opens the discussion into a world that I don't think you like going into Tim......We could b here all night!!! 8)


I will have leave this one for the night watch, then.


Good choice.... :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:24 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out


Tim don't tell me you have not been aboe to find what I posted on google either.

Do you want me to give you the instructions again, in Turkish maybe? :roll:
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:25 pm

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Nikitas wrote:What closed mentality! Cyprus is a small place and everyone knows everyone. We know who was killed and who were arrested, there are hundreds of articles and books written about those days. The foreign TV crews who were on the island took hundreds of hours of newreel and none of this shows any of the casualties you are talking about. You are lying.


Were there any of the "Missing" that were found to be buried in Greek/GC cemetaries and the "RoC government" lied to the families about their death and whereabouts?

The answer is yes and the next question is, how much more your "government" lied to you and how many more of the "Missing" were in fact "secretly" buried without their families being informed?

The next question is, your government has been proven to have lied to you, can you trust them to tell you the truth about the rest of the "Missing"?

The only question you should be asking is...

"Why do I manufacture stories?"

...and the simple answer to that is because you're an idiot who pretends to be mysterious! Image


"Stories" GR? What "storie"? Would that be the "stories" published in GC newspapers?

...which you don't have! :( :lol:


But the internet has.:lol::wink:
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Postby YFred » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:26 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:"It was not a "claim" you silly woman, it's a "scenario" he wrote himself, a publicity stunt. "

He is taking a huge risk of public ridicule then. There will be his fellow soldiers who served with him, his official service records, his family members and a whole bunch of people who can verify his claims of having served in Cyprus in 1974. If that part checks out then his story will gain credibility. Details will come out in due course.

If he is bullshitting and that is proved then it will have a negative result on his career and his current TV series. Could he be that dumb?

Next stop...Turkish Big Brother!!! :arrow:

The real question we should be asking is how many GC's were killed (Particularly Makarios supporting policemen killed by the Military) by their hellenic friends in the 2 weeks between Samson taking over and the arrival of the Turkish Soldiers.

What about the Greek Cypriots who were killed in battle, buried and recorded as missing with their families being miss-informed by the lovely civilised GC government until recently.


The figures I've found are around 2000 GCs killed by their own the whole period......10,000 Makarios supporters were targeted.


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There were only 98 GC casualties as a result of the Greek Military Coup.

We have also posted the names of each casualty.


I see the mixture of Greek and Antipodean character you have developed sir. I am glad you find that statistic very funny. Although I suspect that it is underestimated by those lovely Hellenic educated ministry of home affairs officials. I seemed to remember an X-Greek police officer mentioning a figure of 2000 too. But surely, the records analysed by independent people will corroborate it. Just report on how many police were on alive just before and just after. That will do it.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:29 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
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zan wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan likes to imagine things that will support his views. He is also very good at multiplication.

The fact is that this latest piece of news, the statement by the actor, has shaken the policy of silence that Turkey has imposed about its military action in Cyprus. There will be more people who will come forth and speak out. There is one particular instance that happened in a Mesaoria village, it was probably Kontea or Lysi, where Turkish soldiers were ordered to execute prisoners. Perhaps now there will be pressure to open that particular mass grave and reveal the glory of the Turkish army. My information is that the dead are in three figures.


I have personally spoken to people in Turkey who saw and did things in 1974 in Cyprus - things that have troubled their consciences ever since. I wouldn't be surprised if other revelations start coming forth. As I said a few pages ago, let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out.


Yu guys did realise hat tis guy was lying :roll:

I hope they do come out...Can we expect the same from the "RoC" and Greece????


Based on what evidence? All that has been provided are links that open to blank pages. Even if he did make a retraction, who is to say that he did not do so under duress?

Let us hold our breaths and see how this thing pans out


Tim don't tell me you have not been aboe to find what I posted on google either.

Do you want me to give you the instructions again, in Turkish maybe? :roll:


Perhaps you could simply quote the source of this alleged story.

The highly respected Turkish daily Radikal has in the past hour posted a new report

http://www.radikal.com.tr/Default.aspx? ... egoryID=77

giving news of a request made by Nikos Theodosiou of the Pancypriot Committee of Relatives for Olgaç to provide them with a detailed statement.

This means that the people at Radikal either have not heard about this alleged retraction, or are not taking it very seriously.
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