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"I killed 10 Greekcypriots"

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Postby DT. » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:08 pm

Are we to congratulate this murderer who shoot a prisoner at point blank? He had psycological problems afterwards.....poor thing. Oh well at least his victims didn't have any pshycological problems afterwards.

Give me a break Halil, when you're out trawling the web for the slightest piece of news agaist any violence committed by GC's your spin when faced with an admittion of atrocity on your side is to congratulate the asaillant for being brave enough to confess. Where was his courage in 74 to tell his commanding officer to fuck off and that his orders were illegal?
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:08 pm

The most absurd thinking appears to be from the usual souvla-gorging, shuttle-cock flicking idiots.

Why should there automatically, be an equivalent from the other side?

Did we automatically invade the Ottoman tribal grounds when they first invaded us? Did we retaliate by invading Turkey in 1974?

No!

Sometimes there really, truly is one side that is more prepared to kill, and kill unnecessarily ... just for being spat at (according to this "artist")!

Here is the thinking of a TURKISH Officer who prepared this "artist" to kill GCs ...

According to Alkac, the officer dismissed the plea, saying: “This is where art ends and real life begins. It’s time you felt like what it means to kill a man for real.”


This is what killing means to the Turkish Army. An experience of what it's like to kill, regardless of the "need".

Turks out of Cyprus ... NOW!
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Postby runaway » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:16 pm

I want to follow ur example about TC killings and say that these news needs proof. Without proofs they have no validity. He might be simply making publicity as he s an actor playing in series about fighthing against "enemies".
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Postby iceman » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:21 pm

DT. wrote:Where the other 9 POW's as well? One tranlsation talks of 9 more killed one a day and the other talks of the 9 killed in gun fights.


The translation i posted is from the article published in Milliyet and there he says he killed one POW at point blank and the other nine during gunfights..
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Postby lovernomore » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:28 pm

Oracle wrote:The most absurd thinking appears to be from the usual souvla-gorging, shuttle-cock flicking idiots.

Why should there automatically, be an equivalent from the other side?

Did we automatically invade the Ottoman tribal grounds when they first invaded us? Did we retaliate by invading Turkey in 1974?

No!

Sometimes there really, truly is one side that is more prepared to kill, and kill unnecessarily ... just for being spat at (according to this "artist")!

Here is the thinking of a TURKISH Officer who prepared this "artist" to kill GCs ...

According to Alkac, the officer dismissed the plea, saying: “This is where art ends and real life begins. It’s time you felt like what it means to kill a man for real.”


This is what killing means to the Turkish Army. An experience of what it's like to kill, regardless of the "need".

Turks out of Cyprus ... NOW!


You F**K off back to Greece NOW!!!!!
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:40 pm

Article 3 of The Geneva Convention on POWs clearly states:

Article 3

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;



http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm

The RoC should issue a warrant for his arrest with INTERPOL on violation of Article 3 of The Geneva Convention.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:43 pm

Don't panic guys......Its a CYPRIOT thing 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:55 pm

zan wrote:Don't panic guys......Its a CYPRIOT thing 8)



What part of thıs ıs Cyprıot? The dead soldier? Yes. The murderer?(if true) NO.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:01 pm

Paphitis wrote:Article 3 of The Geneva Convention on POWs clearly states:

Article 3

In the case of armed conflict not of an international character occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each party to the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following provisions:

1. Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

(a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;



http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm

The RoC should issue a warrant for his arrest with INTERPOL on violation of Article 3 of The Geneva Convention.



Perhaps one day those responsible for the death of the innocent TC's will be brought to justice. I hope they too are covered by the Geneva Convention.
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Postby doesntmatter » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:21 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:This story is on the front page of today's Cyprus Weekly (in English).


Tim, maybe you'd be kind enough to translate the below article, I don't have the time to do it myself.

Bananiot was right, nice one Bananiot.



Türkiye dün onun açıklamalarıyla şoke oldu. `Kurtlar Vadisi`nin Kılıç`ı, 45 yıllık tiyatro sanatçısı Atilla Olgaç Kıbrıs`ta 10 kişiyi öldürdüğünü söyledi. Ama Kılıç bugün yalan söylediğini itiraf etti.

OLGAÇ NELER SÖYLEMİŞTİ?

Atilla Olgaç dün canlı yayında `Kılıç karakteriyle senaryo gereği adam öldürdük. Ama ne yazık ki bu vatan için ben gerçek hayatta 10 kişiyi vurdum` diyerek büyük bir sırrını açıklamıştı. Olgaç nasıl öldürdüğünü şöyle anlatmıştı: `Askerlikte terhisime 1 gün kalmıştı. Tam o sırada Kıbrıs Barış Hareketi oldu. Beni Mersin`den Kıbrıs`a gönderdiler. Savaşın en acımasızca ve en kanlı bölümünün sürdüğü temizleme harekatında görev verdiler. Komutana`Yapamam, adam öldüremem, ben sanatçıyım` dedim. `Burada sanat bitti. Burası gerçek hayat, savaş. Emir verdim mi öldüreceksin` dedi. İlk öldürdüğüm çocuk 19 yaşında, esir düşmüş bir askerdi. Silahı yüzüne doğrulttuğumda yüzüme tükürdü. Alnından vurdum, öldü. Daha sonraki çatışmalarda 9 kişiyi daha öldürdüm. Öldürdükten sonra gidip karargâhta ağlıyor, ertesi gün yine öldürüyordum. Rüyamdan çıkmıyor. Uzun süre psikolojik tedavi gördüm. Bu yüzden hala et yiyemiyorum. Kan göremiyorum. Aklıma öldürdüğüm çocuklar, kokmuş cesetler geliyor` dedi.`

TAMAMEN BEN UYDURDUM

Olgaç bugün bir basın açıklaması yaparak dünkü sözlerinin tamamıyla bir senaryodan ibaret olduğunu söyledi. Bu senaryoyu ise savaşın vahşetini anlatmak için yazdığını söyledi.

SAVAŞIN VAHŞETİNİ GÖSTERMEK İÇİN

Olgaç açıklamasında ``Bir esiri ve 10 kişiyi öldürdüm` cümlesi tamamen savaşın kötü ortamını, acımasızlığını, vahşetini, insanları şoke ederek anlatmak adına tarafımdan yazılmış bir senaryodur.`

AÇIKLAYAMADAN PROGRAM BİTTİ<

Olgaç daha sonra bunun bir senaryo olduğunu açıklama fırsatı bulamadığını ise şöyle anlattı: `Bütün bunların bir senaryo olduğunu açıklamak isterken reklam dönüşü program bitmiştir. Gerçekle bir ilgisi yoktur.`


http://www.tumgazeteler.com/?a=4578488

"Gerçekle bir ilgisi yoktur" = "It has nothing to do with reality". :wink:
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