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[YFred]

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

Iceman,

Do you get any rebate by any chance when the plane makes a non stop "Midnight Express" flight after you have already pre paid the extra add on expense to cover for the intended stop over flight. If not, you should ask for some money back from the airline that serves the north.

I wouldn't land in Larnaka if the tickets were free. You can take you Larnaka and Baf, roll it in a cylindrical shape and I think you know what to do with it.

You see some things are worth paying more and we don't mind paying for it. So long as we don't have to suffer the consequences of coming face to face with your ugly, racist and hellenic customs personnel.

Hellim.

I think you have been sucking on too much kerosene fumes while boarding your plane on the tarmac for too long to make such a stupid comments. You don't even know who the fuck you are talking to, you brain dead idiot.!

Nor do you! Have you tried looking in the mirror lately sunny Jim? You will find a perfectly formed idiot in front of you, dipstick.

You have no clue the disgust the honest and moderate Turkish Cypriots feel about your fascist, hellenic, racist government and all its departments.

If we are so racist and fascist, then why do we issue you lot with passports and RoC ID cards?

Becasue you have to. If you didn't, than you would loose all claim to the north. Selfish.

What was that? Our claim on the north?

You have now admitted to youself that we have legitimate claim over the occupied North which you stole.

Furthermore, you can expect us to be return sooner or later to reclaim our stolen territories either by peaceful means, or by force. The choice is yours.

I have never claimed greeks do not have a legitimate claim of some land from the north, the question is how much?
Don't make me laugh, you will claim it by force. If you could, you would have done it by now. Don't be childish. You can't knock tanks out by just saying bang. I suppose you think that EU will force Turkey out of Cyprus and you could finish what you wanted to do in 63. I have news for you my friend. Even if Turkey leaves not that it is likely to happen some time soon, you winning is not guaranteed. Dream on or should I say nightmare on, because its not much of a dream is it? Get my drift.

[YFred]

Cyprus Airways wants compensation for airspace ban

NICOSIA, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Cyprus' national carrier, Cyprus Airways, said it wants to be compensated for damages caused by Turkey prohibiting Greek Cypriot planes from flying in its airspace.
"We have taken steps and asked the finance minister to take Cyprus Airways's request to the EU so that our losses can be compensated," Cyprus Airways spokesperson Kyriacos Kyriacou told Reuters.
It is not immediately clear how much compensation Cyprus Airways' is seeking to claim.
The Turkish ban dates back to 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus in response to a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Cyprus Airways said it estimated the state-controlled airline was raking in losses of 6 million euros a year as a result of the ban. That figure was the result of a survey that considered all of the airline's route networks, fuel consumption, flight hours and staff costs.
"On a number of the routes that we operate it takes us longer to reach our destination and costs more because we have to take alternative flight routes due to this situation," Kyriacou said.
Meanwhile, Cyprus Airways' Chairman, Kikis Lazarides, said the airline was mulling the possibility of introducing flights from emerging destinations, where demand is increasing, such as central Europe, Russia and the Ukraine.
Cyprus Airways' fleet comprises 11 Airbus aircraft with an average age of 12.5 years. (Reporting by Sarah Ktisti; Editing by Andrew Macdonald)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8303698

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

Iceman,

Do you get any rebate by any chance when the plane makes a non stop "Midnight Express" flight after you have already pre paid the extra add on expense to cover for the intended stop over flight. If not, you should ask for some money back from the airline that serves the north.

I wouldn't land in Larnaka if the tickets were free. You can take you Larnaka and Baf, roll it in a cylindrical shape and I think you know what to do with it.

You see some things are worth paying more and we don't mind paying for it. So long as we don't have to suffer the consequences of coming face to face with your ugly, racist and hellenic customs personnel.

Hellim.

I take it that if CY Airways are successful in this claim for compensation that they will reimburse a reasonable amount to all the fare paying passengers who have had these additional costs factored into the price of their tickets?

Class action anybody?

I donate my share to the poor GC government, in the hope that if there is a settlement, they can afford to pay me the rent they owe me for the use of my lovely land.

[JimB]

All well and good you guy's having a public pissing contest, sure it would be entertaining if it wasn't so monotonously predictable and futile.

Anybody else reckon there'd be a chance for compensation if CYA goes ahead with this claim?

Agree that it wouldn't hurt for a few of the custom's / immigration officers to be a little bit more polite, possibly smile or acknowledge a person's existence once in a while. I'm well and truly used to the grunt / stony silence and the thrown down passport but I'm sure it offends some.

[Sotos]

All well and good you guy's having a public pissing contest, sure it would be entertaining if it wasn't so monotonously predictable and futile.

Anybody else reckon there'd be a chance for compensation if CYA goes ahead with this claim?

Nobody thinks of that. We are just making up our case even stronger for when we will block more chapters of the Turkish EU accession. The Turks were supposed to allow the planes to pass and also our ships in their ports. They don't. So they should know that their EU accession will move nowhere.

[Sotos]

Cyprus Airways wants compensation for airspace ban

NICOSIA, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Cyprus' national carrier, Cyprus Airways, said it wants to be compensated for damages caused by Turkey prohibiting Greek Cypriot planes from flying in its airspace.
"We have taken steps and asked the finance minister to take Cyprus Airways's request to the EU so that our losses can be compensated," Cyprus Airways spokesperson Kyriacos Kyriacou told Reuters.
It is not immediately clear how much compensation Cyprus Airways' is seeking to claim.
The Turkish ban dates back to 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus in response to a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Cyprus Airways said it estimated the state-controlled airline was raking in losses of 6 million euros a year as a result of the ban. That figure was the result of a survey that considered all of the airline's route networks, fuel consumption, flight hours and staff costs.
"On a number of the routes that we operate it takes us longer to reach our destination and costs more because we have to take alternative flight routes due to this situation," Kyriacou said.
Meanwhile, Cyprus Airways' Chairman, Kikis Lazarides, said the airline was mulling the possibility of introducing flights from emerging destinations, where demand is increasing, such as central Europe, Russia and the Ukraine.
Cyprus Airways' fleet comprises 11 Airbus aircraft with an average age of 12.5 years. (Reporting by Sarah Ktisti; Editing by Andrew Macdonald)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8303698

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

You are not forced to use those (illegal) flights. You can use Paphos or Larnaca airports.

What if i dont want to use Larnaca or Paphos?
Stop forcing me to use Larnaca & Paphos..

Then if you are using another (by choice) airport .... what is there to compensate?

( Maybe you should pursue "compensation" for using an illegal airport.
We could do with another laugh, at your gaffs, in the EU )

I think i'll be the one laughing when Turkey gives you the middle finger as compensation..

And they will get our middle finger with their EU accession

[YFred]

Cyprus Airways wants compensation for airspace ban

NICOSIA, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Cyprus' national carrier, Cyprus Airways, said it wants to be compensated for damages caused by Turkey prohibiting Greek Cypriot planes from flying in its airspace.
"We have taken steps and asked the finance minister to take Cyprus Airways's request to the EU so that our losses can be compensated," Cyprus Airways spokesperson Kyriacos Kyriacou told Reuters.
It is not immediately clear how much compensation Cyprus Airways' is seeking to claim.
The Turkish ban dates back to 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus in response to a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Cyprus Airways said it estimated the state-controlled airline was raking in losses of 6 million euros a year as a result of the ban. That figure was the result of a survey that considered all of the airline's route networks, fuel consumption, flight hours and staff costs.
"On a number of the routes that we operate it takes us longer to reach our destination and costs more because we have to take alternative flight routes due to this situation," Kyriacou said.
Meanwhile, Cyprus Airways' Chairman, Kikis Lazarides, said the airline was mulling the possibility of introducing flights from emerging destinations, where demand is increasing, such as central Europe, Russia and the Ukraine.
Cyprus Airways' fleet comprises 11 Airbus aircraft with an average age of 12.5 years. (Reporting by Sarah Ktisti; Editing by Andrew Macdonald)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8303698

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

You are not forced to use those (illegal) flights. You can use Paphos or Larnaca airports.

What if i dont want to use Larnaca or Paphos?
Stop forcing me to use Larnaca & Paphos..

Then if you are using another (by choice) airport .... what is there to compensate?

( Maybe you should pursue "compensation" for using an illegal airport.
We could do with another laugh, at your gaffs, in the EU )

I think i'll be the one laughing when Turkey gives you the middle finger as compensation..

And they will get our middle finger with their EU accession

Really, you actually believe that Cyprus is going to be able to block Turkey.

[Piratis]

Cyprus Airways wants compensation for airspace ban

NICOSIA, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Cyprus' national carrier, Cyprus Airways, said it wants to be compensated for damages caused by Turkey prohibiting Greek Cypriot planes from flying in its airspace.
"We have taken steps and asked the finance minister to take Cyprus Airways's request to the EU so that our losses can be compensated," Cyprus Airways spokesperson Kyriacos Kyriacou told Reuters.
It is not immediately clear how much compensation Cyprus Airways' is seeking to claim.
The Turkish ban dates back to 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus in response to a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Cyprus Airways said it estimated the state-controlled airline was raking in losses of 6 million euros a year as a result of the ban. That figure was the result of a survey that considered all of the airline's route networks, fuel consumption, flight hours and staff costs.
"On a number of the routes that we operate it takes us longer to reach our destination and costs more because we have to take alternative flight routes due to this situation," Kyriacou said.
Meanwhile, Cyprus Airways' Chairman, Kikis Lazarides, said the airline was mulling the possibility of introducing flights from emerging destinations, where demand is increasing, such as central Europe, Russia and the Ukraine.
Cyprus Airways' fleet comprises 11 Airbus aircraft with an average age of 12.5 years. (Reporting by Sarah Ktisti; Editing by Andrew Macdonald)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8303698

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

You are not forced to use those (illegal) flights. You can use Paphos or Larnaca airports.

What if i dont want to use Larnaca or Paphos?
Stop forcing me to use Larnaca & Paphos..

Then if you are using another (by choice) airport .... what is there to compensate?

( Maybe you should pursue "compensation" for using an illegal airport.
We could do with another laugh, at your gaffs, in the EU )

I think i'll be the one laughing when Turkey gives you the middle finger as compensation..

And they will get our middle finger with their EU accession

Really, you actually believe that Cyprus is going to be able to block Turkey.

Practically we have already done it already. Not even the Turks themselves believe that there is such possibility for them anymore. And those optimistic ones that think there is, they will change their minds pretty soon.

It is not just Cyprus. Most Europeans don't want Turkey in EU and Cyprus is glad to give them a perfectly valid reason for rejecting Turkey.

[YFred]

Cyprus Airways wants compensation for airspace ban

NICOSIA, Jan 22 (Reuters) - Cyprus' national carrier, Cyprus Airways, said it wants to be compensated for damages caused by Turkey prohibiting Greek Cypriot planes from flying in its airspace.
"We have taken steps and asked the finance minister to take Cyprus Airways's request to the EU so that our losses can be compensated," Cyprus Airways spokesperson Kyriacos Kyriacou told Reuters.
It is not immediately clear how much compensation Cyprus Airways' is seeking to claim.
The Turkish ban dates back to 1974, when Turkey invaded Cyprus in response to a brief Greek-inspired coup.
Cyprus Airways said it estimated the state-controlled airline was raking in losses of 6 million euros a year as a result of the ban. That figure was the result of a survey that considered all of the airline's route networks, fuel consumption, flight hours and staff costs.
"On a number of the routes that we operate it takes us longer to reach our destination and costs more because we have to take alternative flight routes due to this situation," Kyriacou said.
Meanwhile, Cyprus Airways' Chairman, Kikis Lazarides, said the airline was mulling the possibility of introducing flights from emerging destinations, where demand is increasing, such as central Europe, Russia and the Ukraine.
Cyprus Airways' fleet comprises 11 Airbus aircraft with an average age of 12.5 years. (Reporting by Sarah Ktisti; Editing by Andrew Macdonald)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/8303698

well...same applies for us in the north...we have to take alternative routes on all of our flights which cost us extra time & money...do you reckon EU will compensate use too??

You are not forced to use those (illegal) flights. You can use Paphos or Larnaca airports.

What if i dont want to use Larnaca or Paphos?
Stop forcing me to use Larnaca & Paphos..

Then if you are using another (by choice) airport .... what is there to compensate?

( Maybe you should pursue "compensation" for using an illegal airport.
We could do with another laugh, at your gaffs, in the EU )

I think i'll be the one laughing when Turkey gives you the middle finger as compensation..

And they will get our middle finger with their EU accession

Really, you actually believe that Cyprus is going to be able to block Turkey.

Practically we have already done it already. Not even the Turks themselves believe that there is such possibility for them anymore. And those optimistic ones that think there is, they will change their minds pretty soon.

It is not just Cyprus. Most Europeans don't want Turkey in EU and Cyprus is glad to give them a perfectly valid reason for rejecting Turkey.

So long as we agree that Cyprus alone does not have such power and it’s only if the big guns of EU decide otherwise, then we are in agreement. The debating point is not now but when Turkey is ready to join will EU be in a position to reject? Good question, but that is where we disagree.

First point is that, it is also up to USA not just EU.
Second point is that you just do not understand the humanity that exists in the EU.
By dangling the carrot in front of Turkey, they are making it possible for Turkey to have the upper hand over the military and the rejectionists of EU, and actually pass laws that bring Turkey nearer to EU standards politically. The benefit this would have on the Kurkish and Turkish population will be immense. The real question is when all this is done, will the EU turn its back on Turkey and allow this population to revert back to 60s 70s 80s and the 90s. EU will not be able to resist. Consequences will be very serious. If Turkey is so insignificant in their existence to EU and USA, why have they bent over backwards to keep them in Nato.

You are allowing your emotions to take over and dreaming of the king that will come and save you from these Turks. Not to dissimilar to the arrival of Jesus and the contention between Jews and Christians as to whether the saviour had arrived hence the split.

The only solution is to have an agreement and co-exists together like humans. Who knows one day we may return to total union. Future generations will decide that.

[miltiades]

YFred makes some valid points and sensible too. I like his signature .