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Open Letter to Recep Tayyip Erdogan

Postby CBBB » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:52 am

LETTER TO THE EDITOR 22.JAN.09
Dear Mr Prime Minister,

Ref: VIP dinner-debate on 19th January in Brussels

I have always supported your actions in respect of Democratization Reforms in your country and I admired your brave stance against the Deep State in Turkey and against the Israeli atrocities in Gaza.

Furthermore, both I as an individual Member of the European Parliament but also my country's Government, supported Turkey's accession bid to the European Union.

Of course we have some major differences of opinion regarding the Cyprus Problem but, I have never been rude or objectionable to you at any of the few times that we have met.

Unfortunately, your response to me at the above dinner was not in the same reciprocate spirit as I would have expected from the leader of a country waiting to become a member of the European Union.

Having now had a chance to read, in the Turkish Press mainly, the translation of some of the things you said to me, I feel that your response was rude and insulting, not just to my person but to the European Parliament in which I am a representative.

I expect and hope, that an apology from you will be forthcoming in return of this letter.

Mr Prime Minister, Irrespective of what happened at the above dinner, I am still a strong supporter of the Turkish People fighting for Democratization and Europeanization of their country and I will continue to support your efforts to achieve these noble aims.

This I will do, not as a sign of weakness on my part but because, during my brief time in politics I have learned not to denigrate Principle issues on personal grounds alone.

By the way, Mr Prime Minister, allow me to advise that, when you talk to an EU audience it is always necessary to have your facts right, otherwise they may not take you seriously.

And in this respect, you must accept, despite how much you disapprove of, that the whole of Cyprus has joined the EU not just "the South Greek- Cypriot Administration" as you wrongly said.

And that, all Cypriots, Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots included, are EU citizens.

This is a fact which you should have definitely been fully aware of.

Mr Prime Minister, I hope you will regard this letter not as coming from an "enemy" but as coming from a friend and someone who wants to see Peace and Prosperity for the people both of your country but also of mine and someone who wants to look more forward to the Future and not backwards to the past.


Yours respectfully,

Dr. Marios Matsakis, MEP

Member of the Joint Parliamentary Committee of Turkey- EU
Cc. Presidents of the EP, the European Commission and of the European Council

Members of the Joint Parliamentary Committee of Turkey- EU

- Copyright © Famagusta Gazette 2009

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Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:23 am

We are very glad of the response of Mr. Erdogan to Matsakis. Actually I read many supportive comments for him including the ones who have never voted for him. I am sorry that translation was not made at that moment. I wanted to see the face of Matsakis when he heard the reply. :D Clearly he is an enemy of Turkey and a flag thief.

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.
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Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:30 am

runaway wrote:We are very glad of the response of Mr. Erdogan to Matsakis. Actually I read many supportive comments for him including the ones who have never voted for him. I am sorry that translation was not made at that moment. I wanted to see the face of Matsakis when he heard the reply. :D Clearly he is an enemy of Turkey and a flag thief.

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.


He is not wrong. Have a look at the protocol in which Cyprus was admitted into the EU. The entire island is part of the EU, with a temporary suspension of the acquis over the north of the island.
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Postby CBBB » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:36 am

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:We are very glad of the response of Mr. Erdogan to Matsakis. Actually I read many supportive comments for him including the ones who have never voted for him. I am sorry that translation was not made at that moment. I wanted to see the face of Matsakis when he heard the reply. :D Clearly he is an enemy of Turkey and a flag thief.

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.


He is not wrong. Have a look at the protocol in which Cyprus was admitted into the EU. The entire island is part of the EU, with a temporary suspension of the acquis over the north of the island.


And all TCs shun the benefits of Cyprus being in the EU?
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Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:36 am

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:We are very glad of the response of Mr. Erdogan to Matsakis. Actually I read many supportive comments for him including the ones who have never voted for him. I am sorry that translation was not made at that moment. I wanted to see the face of Matsakis when he heard the reply. :D Clearly he is an enemy of Turkey and a flag thief.

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.


He is not wrong. Have a look at the protocol in which Cyprus was admitted into the EU. The entire island is part of the EU, with a temporary suspension of the acquis over the north of the island.



So who was on the table defending the rights of the TCs? Give me names of TCs in the delegation of "Cyprus" who approved the accession.
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Postby kafenes » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:38 am

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.


And is that why when Cyprus joined the EU, TCs came running to the ROC for IDs and passports?
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:39 am

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:We are very glad of the response of Mr. Erdogan to Matsakis. Actually I read many supportive comments for him including the ones who have never voted for him. I am sorry that translation was not made at that moment. I wanted to see the face of Matsakis when he heard the reply. :D Clearly he is an enemy of Turkey and a flag thief.

And you very wrong Mr.Matsakis. Only Southern Cyprus has become a member of EU. TCs were never represented in accession talks of the EU. GCs cannot negotiate on behalf of TCs. If EU wants to include them to the Union, they have to make separate negotiations.


He is not wrong. Have a look at the protocol in which Cyprus was admitted into the EU. The entire island is part of the EU, with a temporary suspension of the acquis over the north of the island.


Can you get your hands on he EXACT wording describing this please DT...Just would like to see what status was given to us when referred to.... :D
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Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:41 am

http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish ... dex_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.
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Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:48 am

DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.
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