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[Get Real!]

No ....no ...no ....Greek Versiones .......

Turkish Cypriots are still here and TC's gave their answer at 2004 ......

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The TCs always loved UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS like the A-Plan, but it’s this reluctance to bow down to democracy that’s destroying them… too bad!

[halil]

No ....no ...no ....Greek Versiones .......

Turkish Cypriots are still here and TC's gave their answer at 2004 ......

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The TCs always loved UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS like the A-Plan, but it’s this reluctance to bow down to democracy that’s destroying them… too bad!

Read back again ROC constitution .How republic was formed .....

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[Tim Drayton]

http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.

Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.

rules are rules i'm afraid

Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)

Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.

and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.

Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.

Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.

The government represents the entire island at all talks with the EU right now, it also represents all TC's with Cypriot passports since when you accept a passport you also accept that the govt issuing that passport is your govt.. What are you reffering to?

They take South Cypriot passports to take advantage of free movement within EU not because they think GC goverment is their government.Before 2004, none of them was taking your passports. TCs have their own elections. They never took part in GC elections so the chosen ones in south simply can't govern TCs.

I wonder if you could post a quote here that I included in another thread. This statement was made by none other than İnal Batu, who served as Turkey's ambassador in Nicosia in the period 1979-1984, in an interview to be found in the book with the original title of "Büyükelçiler Anlatıyor", published in 2007 (ISBN 978—9944-88-033-6), in which researcher Gül İnanç interviewed a number of Turkey's former ambassadors to Cyprus. The interviews were all taped.

It appears on page 106 of this book. Given that this is the opinion of a retired Turkish diplomat, it deserves to be given serious consideration.

ORIGINAL

Kıbrıs sorunu bence çözüldü zaten. Bir Kıbrıslınının kuzey’de yaşaması ne fark eder? Avrupa vatandaşı nihayetinde. Kıbrıs sorunu böylece halloldu ve Türk politikaları açısından her şey iflas etti. Biz, “Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti bütün Kıbrıs’ın temsilcisi değil” diyoruz ama, Türklerin çoğu o ülkenin pasaportunu alarak, onların bütün Ada’nın temsilcisi olduğunu kabul etmiş olmuyorlar mı? Bir Kıbrsılı Türkün Rum pasaportunu alması “Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti”ni tanıması demektir. Sayın Denktaş’ın torunu da buna dahil. O devleti tanımıyorlar mı şimdi onlar? Larnaka’dan Avrupa’ya gitmiyorlar mı ya da iş olanaklarından yararlanmıyorlar mı? Ne farkları var AB vatandaşı Rumlardan?

TRANSLATION:

In any case, I think the Cyprus problem has been solved. What difference does it make for a Cypriot to live in the north? They are EU citizens at the end of the day. The Cyprus problem has thus been solved and, as far as Turkish policies are concerned, there is total bankruptcy. We say, “The Republic of Cyprus is not the representative of the whole of Cyprus”, but do the majority of Turks in acquiring that country’s passport not recognise them as the representative of the whole island? The acquisition of a Greek Cypriot passport by a Turkish Cypriot is tantamount to recognition of the “Republic of Cyprus”. Mr Denktash’s grandson is among them. Do they not now recognise that state? Do they not go from Larnaca to Europe or benefit from business opportunities? What is the difference between them and EU-citizen Greek Cypriots?

[Paphitis]

No ....no ...no ....Greek Versiones .......

Turkish Cypriots are still here and TC's gave their answer at 2004 ......

FULL STOPPED.......

The TCs always loved UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS like the A-Plan, but it’s this reluctance to bow down to democracy that’s destroying them… too bad!

Read back again ROC constitution .How republic was formed .....

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It was the TCs that walked out to further their seperatist ambitions.

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[Get Real!]

No ....no ...no ....Greek Versiones .......

Turkish Cypriots are still here and TC's gave their answer at 2004 ......

FULL STOPPED.......

The TCs always loved UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS like the A-Plan, but it’s this reluctance to bow down to democracy that’s destroying them… too bad!

Read back again ROC constitution .How republic was formed .....

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It's what I've been telling you.... UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS!

THEY DON'T WORK AND YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE IT!

[runaway]

None of you are talking about latest attacks. Is this how you are going to treat TCs? You are not ready to live together with them. It is better to live side by side as neighbours as you can't accept the TC identity on the island.

[Paphitis]

None of you are talking about latest attacks. Is this how you are going to treat TCs? You are not ready to live together with them. It is better to live side by side as neighbours as you can't accept the TC identity on the island.

Football Hooligans attack GC fans every weekend.

Football holiganism occurs in Turkey as well and is not racially motivated.

[halil]

No ....no ...no ....Greek Versiones .......

Turkish Cypriots are still here and TC's gave their answer at 2004 ......

FULL STOPPED.......

The TCs always loved UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS like the A-Plan, but it’s this reluctance to bow down to democracy that’s destroying them… too bad!

Read back again ROC constitution .How republic was formed .....

FULL STOPPED.............

It's what I've been telling you.... UNDEMOCRATIC POLITICAL ARRANGEMENTS!

THEY DON'T WORK AND YOU'D BETTER BELIEVE IT!

IT was the only way to keep the balance between TC and GC communities in the island .One side wanted to ENOSİS with GREECE other side wanted TAKSIM.
PARTNERSHIP REPUBLIC was formed.

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[Tim Drayton]

None of you are talking about latest attacks. Is this how you are going to treat TCs? You are not ready to live together with them. It is better to live side by side as neighbours as you can't accept the TC identity on the island.

The attacks you refer to were deplorable. However, let's put things into a bit of context. The crossings have now been open for five and a half years, and there have been a total of about 15 million crossings made by Turkish and Greek Cypriots. An official EU report, for instance, made the following comment with reference to 2008 about the green line crossing points:

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/Lex ... 529:EN:NOT

"No major incidents were reported as regards the daily crossing of people at the check points."

Large numbers of people are crossing and the number of incidents is very small.

[runaway]

Football Hooligans attack GC fans every weekend.

Football holiganism occurs in Turkey as well and is not racially motivated.

It was racially motivated when they attacked only TCs. Sorry but we don't have this kind of fanaticism every weekend. I hope you won't tell this is routine hooliganism in South Cyprus when they actually start killing people just because they are TC. TCs have security concerns and I can clearly see why they are worried. None of my TC friends trust the sincerity of GCs.