The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Open Letter to Recep Tayyip Erdogan

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:35 am

runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:42 am

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.



Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.
User avatar
runaway
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1723
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Istanbul

Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:51 am

runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.



Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.


The government represents the entire island at all talks with the EU right now, it also represents all TC's with Cypriot passports since when you accept a passport you also accept that the govt issuing that passport is your govt.. What are you reffering to?
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:26 pm

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.



Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.


The government represents the entire island at all talks with the EU right now, it also represents all TC's with Cypriot passports since when you accept a passport you also accept that the govt issuing that passport is your govt.. What are you reffering to?



They take South Cypriot passports to take advantage of free movement within EU not because they think GC goverment is their government.Before 2004, none of them was taking your passports. TCs have their own elections. They never took part in GC elections so the chosen ones in south simply can't govern TCs.
User avatar
runaway
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1723
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Istanbul

Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:30 pm

runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.



Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.


The government represents the entire island at all talks with the EU right now, it also represents all TC's with Cypriot passports since when you accept a passport you also accept that the govt issuing that passport is your govt.. What are you reffering to?



They take South Cypriot passports to take advantage of free movement within EU not because they think GC goverment is their government.Before 2004, none of them was taking your passports. TCs have their own elections. They never took part in GC elections so the chosen ones in south simply can't govern TCs.


Technically and legally they do.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:38 pm

DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:
runaway wrote:
DT. wrote:http://ec.europa.eu/enlargement/turkish_cypriot_community/index_en.htm

The whole of the island is in the EU. However, in the northern part of the island, in the areas in which the Government of Cyprus does not exercise effective control, EU legislation is suspended in line with Protocol 10 of the Accession Treaty 2003. The situation will change once a Cyprus settlement enters into force and it will then be possible for EU rules to apply over the whole of the island. However, the suspension does not affect the personal rights of Turkish Cypriots as EU citizens. They are citizens of a Member State, the Republic of Cyprus, even though they may live in the northern part of Cyprus, the areas not under government control.


Since when are the TCs under GC government's control? They have their own president and prime minister which are chosen by themselves. Papadopoulos( a man who has an allergy to the word Turk) as the president of TCs would be the greatest joke of all times.


rules are rules i'm afraid


Yes rules are rules and Cyprus is still divided thanks to your OXI so at the moment N.Cyprus is not EU. (EU legislation is not applicable there)


Very much applicable, merely suspended for the time being.


and will continue to be suspended until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.


Actually the protocol states that it will remain suspended until the Government of the island regains control of the northern part of the island.



Don't get stuck with what is written too much. You know very well the realities are different. GCs imposed their view to the EU with the backing of Greece. If there will ever be a solution, there will be a REAL government representing both sides governing both regions. Until then, GC government can't represent TCs at any platform.


The government represents the entire island at all talks with the EU right now, it also represents all TC's with Cypriot passports since when you accept a passport you also accept that the govt issuing that passport is your govt.. What are you reffering to?



They take South Cypriot passports to take advantage of free movement within EU not because they think GC goverment is their government.Before 2004, none of them was taking your passports. TCs have their own elections. They never took part in GC elections so the chosen ones in south simply can't govern TCs.


Technically and legally they do.


What is legal for you is illegal for TCs. With this attitude, you will never unite as you don't recognize the rights of the people in the north. You can't tell them "come and join us and let us rule you".
User avatar
runaway
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1723
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Istanbul

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:41 pm

runaway wrote:...until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.

The TCs are a minority whether they like it or not but help is at hand...

Just follow these simple steps:

1. Sit down.
2. Bottoms-up a straight scotch or two.
3. Scream to yourself…. “I’m a MINORITY God damn it!”

There you go… now that didn’t feel so bad did it? 8)

Atta boy!
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

Postby DT. » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:42 pm

Again you're confusing your own personal feelings with international law. There is no Legal for you and illegal for me. The legal situation you find yourself in is that you are in an unrecognised entity on land that does not belong to you. Your legal govt is the govt of Mr Christofias.

Now you may wish to be ruled by a Swahilian drummers gang, in your mind you may be, in international law you're not.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby runaway » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
runaway wrote:...until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.

The TCs are a minority whether they like it or not but help is at hand...

Just follow these simple steps:

1. Sit down.
2. Bottoms-up a straight scotch or two.
3. Scream to yourself…. “I’m a MINORITY God damn it!”

There you go… now that didn’t feel so bad did it? 8)

Atta boy!



So say bye bye to Girne as there will never be unification.
User avatar
runaway
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 1723
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:41 pm
Location: Istanbul

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:01 pm

runaway wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
runaway wrote:...until you guys understand that TCs are equals and not a minority on that island.

The TCs are a minority whether they like it or not but help is at hand...

Just follow these simple steps:

1. Sit down.
2. Bottoms-up a straight scotch or two.
3. Scream to yourself…. “I’m a MINORITY God damn it!”

There you go… now that didn’t feel so bad did it? 8)

Atta boy!

So say bye bye to Girne as there will never be unification.

The undemocratic rubbish they're talking about today doesn't interest me the slightest anyway so we'll just sit it out thank you. As for Kyrenia… it looks like a shit-hole and the last place in Cyprus I’d liberate to be honest with you... :lol:

Apologies to Kyrenia's true citizens but since their departure it's gone downhill!
Last edited by Get Real! on Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Get Real!
Forum Addict
Forum Addict
 
Posts: 48333
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:25 am
Location: Nicosia

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests