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[Get Real!]

TCs will not settle with less rights then they were supposed to have in the past which were overrun by GCs. If TCs can accept a GC president, you should be ready to have a TC president as well. That's exactly having the same rights for everyone. Other options are not acceptable which would lead to a majority-minority relationship and end up in failure once again.

Then you have signed your very own extinction because you are just too small, too poor, and too stupid, to play “power games”…

Turkey is too small right. I'm from the country u r fucking afraid of. Don't u dare killing other TCs or we ll kick ur ass once again.

Why do you pretend all of a sudden that we are talking about Turkey or that you are a Turk? Turks have no interest in logging onto a Cypriot forum…

Could it be that you’re upset because you know I’m right?

TCs can’t afford to buy a clean pair of knickers yet they want “power”???

You know that and I know that…

My Greek friends always say how stupid GCs can get. You are the perfect example. I am from Turkey and I am here coz TRNC is TURKISH Cypriot land. And yes TCs will get power coz they own northern part of the island.

Most Turks can't even point to Cyprus on a map... come to think of it they can't even point to Turkey on a map! Anyway, nobody joins a country-specific forum unless they are somehow tied to that country either directly or through a spouse.

As for what your Greek friends have to say… hopefully you'll stick around long enough and find out a lot more about YOU than GCs...

[runaway]

Really, get your facts right DT. This is not good enough. The Turkish soldier was shot and killed. My Nephew was the Captain in charge that night and he found him.

But I suppose you want some sort of proof.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/08/cyprus/index.html

you will find it hear.

In anticipation of an apology for your indiscretion sir.

Biased GC media is hiding the truths. Speak up "civilized " GCs I wonder what u have to say for this killing. If TVs don't show Turkish killings watch it from international media and see how bloody u can get.

That was an unconfirmed killing of a TC and surrounded in mystery, the report said.!

Where is the confirmed and non mysterious report of the TC killing.??

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... ies/Cyprus

As Kikapu has already told you, this shooting of a Turkish SOLDIER is shrouded in uncertainty ....

A Turkish Cypriot soldier was killed and another seriously wounded today when shots were fired at their post near the United Nations-patrolled buffer zone that separates Greek and Turkish Cypriots, Cypriot officials said.

It was not clear who was responsible for the shooting. Turkish Cypriots and Turkey blamed Greek Cypriot soldiers and warned that the incident would damage efforts to resolve the Cyprus problem.

There were also fears that the shooting was related to the killing of two Greek Cypriot men during anti-Turkish demonstrations on the demarcation line last month.

From YOUR link!

And according to you it is not clear who attacked TCs 6 days ago in South Cyprus. It was a "civilized" attack by 1000 "civilized" people. Guess by whom?

OK ... you're just plainly innumerate as well as a proven liar

... from Turkey did you say? Figures! With a PM like Erdogan, what can we expect ....

Look who s talking. A flag stealer MEP, an ex dead president and a former terrorist organization member aiming to kill TCs, football hooligans stoning TCs, corrupted media who don't show killings of TCs and yet claiming to be civilized : welcome to South Cyprus, the fake country of all seasons...

[Oracle]

Really, get your facts right DT. This is not good enough. The Turkish soldier was shot and killed. My Nephew was the Captain in charge that night and he found him.

But I suppose you want some sort of proof.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/08/cyprus/index.html

you will find it hear.

In anticipation of an apology for your indiscretion sir.

Biased GC media is hiding the truths. Speak up "civilized " GCs I wonder what u have to say for this killing. If TVs don't show Turkish killings watch it from international media and see how bloody u can get.

That was an unconfirmed killing of a TC and surrounded in mystery, the report said.!

Where is the confirmed and non mysterious report of the TC killing.??

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... ies/Cyprus

As Kikapu has already told you, this shooting of a Turkish SOLDIER is shrouded in uncertainty ....

A Turkish Cypriot soldier was killed and another seriously wounded today when shots were fired at their post near the United Nations-patrolled buffer zone that separates Greek and Turkish Cypriots, Cypriot officials said.

It was not clear who was responsible for the shooting. Turkish Cypriots and Turkey blamed Greek Cypriot soldiers and warned that the incident would damage efforts to resolve the Cyprus problem.

There were also fears that the shooting was related to the killing of two Greek Cypriot men during anti-Turkish demonstrations on the demarcation line last month.

From YOUR link!

And according to you it is not clear who attacked TCs 6 days ago in South Cyprus. It was a "civilized" attack by 1000 "civilized" people. Guess by whom?

OK ... you're just plainly innumerate as well as a proven liar

... from Turkey did you say? Figures! With a PM like Erdogan, what can we expect ....

Look who s talking. A flag stealer MEP, an ex dead president and a former terrorist organization member aiming to kill TCs, football hooligans stoning TCs, corrupted media who don't show killings of TCs and yet claiming to be civilized : welcome to South Cyprus, the fake country of all seasons...

A glutton for punishment, huh. Keep gossiping ....

Just some of the violated (and ignored) United Nations resolutions by your record breaking country ....Turkey!

General Assembly res. 3212 (XXIX) 1 Nov. 1974
3395 (XXX) 20 Nov. 1975
31/12 (1976)12 Nov. 1976
32/15 (1977) 9 Nov. 1977
33/15 (1978) 9 Nov. 1978
34/30 (1979) 20 Nov. 1979
37/253 (1983)13 May 1983

Security Council res. 353(1974) 20 July 1974
354(1974) 23 July 1974
355(1974) 1 August 1974
357(1974) 14 August 1974
358(1974) 15 August 1974
359(1974) 15 August 1974
360(1974) 16 August 1974
36K(I974)30 August 1974
364(1974) 13 Dec. 1974
365(1974) 13 Dec. 1974
367(1975) 12 March 1975
370(1975) 13 June 1975
414(1977) 15 Sept. 1977
440(1978) 27 Nov 1978
541(1983) 18 Nov. 1983
550(1984) 11 May 1984
649(1990) 12 March 1990
716(1991) 11 Oct. 1991
750(1992) 10 April 1992
774(1992) 26 Aug 1992
789(1992) 25 Nov. 1992
939(1994) 29 July 1994
969(1994) 21 Dec 1994
1000(1995) 23 June 1995
103211995) 19 Dec. 1995
1062(1996) 28 June 1996
1092(1996) 23 Dec. 1996
1117(1997) 27 June 1997

[YFred]

Really, get your facts right DT. This is not good enough. The Turkish soldier was shot and killed. My Nephew was the Captain in charge that night and he found him.

But I suppose you want some sort of proof.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/08/cyprus/index.html

you will find it hear.

In anticipation of an apology for your indiscretion sir.

Biased GC media is hiding the truths. Speak up "civilized " GCs I wonder what u have to say for this killing. If TVs don't show Turkish killings watch it from international media and see how bloody u can get.

That was an unconfirmed killing of a TC and surrounded in mystery, the report said.!

Where is the confirmed and non mysterious report of the TC killing.??

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... ies/Cyprus

As Kikapu has already told you, this shooting of a Turkish SOLDIER is shrouded in uncertainty ....

A Turkish Cypriot soldier was killed and another seriously wounded today when shots were fired at their post near the United Nations-patrolled buffer zone that separates Greek and Turkish Cypriots, Cypriot officials said.

It was not clear who was responsible for the shooting. Turkish Cypriots and Turkey blamed Greek Cypriot soldiers and warned that the incident would damage efforts to resolve the Cyprus problem.

There were also fears that the shooting was related to the killing of two Greek Cypriot men during anti-Turkish demonstrations on the demarcation line last month.

From YOUR link!

And according to you it is not clear who attacked TCs 6 days ago in South Cyprus. It was a "civilized" attack by 1000 "civilized" people. Guess by whom?

OK ... you're just plainly innumerate as well as a proven liar

... from Turkey did you say? Figures! With a PM like Erdogan, what can we expect ....

Look who s talking. A flag stealer MEP, an ex dead president and a former terrorist organization member aiming to kill TCs, football hooligans stoning TCs, corrupted media who don't show killings of TCs and yet claiming to be civilized : welcome to South Cyprus, the fake country of all seasons...

Never mind Runaway. You are talking to mindless Hellenic lunatic fringe in Cyprus. Who are blinded to everything they have done. I suspect that, its not just Cyprus they want, they would also like to have half of Anadolu including Istanbul. The positive side is that they are a minority even in the South of Cyprus and what you are witnessing is the last few kicks of a dying person.

They have always hidden behind others like the UN and now the EU and did their worst. Even Greece is sick to death of them so their days are numbered.
Just ignore them. They will go away, eventually.

[Get Real!]

I suspect that, its not just Cyprus they want, they would also like to have half of Anadolu including Istanbul.

What half? Turkey is a province of Cyprus and should be rightfully returned to us.

[Kifeas]

Can someone translate this passage from Hurriyet?

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/magazin/anas ... .asp?top=1

'10 kişiyi gerçekten öldürdüm'

'Kurtlar Vadisi'nin Kılıç'ı, 45 yıllık tiyatro sanatçısı Atilla Olgaç hayatıyla ilgili bir gerçeği ilk kez Gülşen Yüksel ve Müge Dağıstanlı'nın sunduğu 'Orada Neler Oluyor'da açıkladı.

Atilla Olgaç "Kılıç karakteriyle senaryo gereği adam öldürdük. Ama ne yazık ki bu vatan için ben gerçek hayatta 10 kişiyi vurdum" dedi. Atilla Olgaç "Askerlikte terhisime 1 gün kalmıştı. Tam o sırada Kıbrıs Barış Hareketi oldu. Beni Mersin'den Kıbrıs'a gönderdiler. Savaşın en acımasızca ve en kanlı bölümünün sürdüğü temizleme harekatında görev verdiler. Komutana 'Yapamam, adam öldüremem, ben sanatçıyım' dedim. 'Burada sanat bitti. Burası gerçek hayat, savaş. Emir verdim mi öldüreceksin' dedi. İlk öldürdüğüm çocuk 19 yaşında, esir düşmüş bir askerdi. Silahı yüzüne doğrulttuğumda yüzüme tükürdü. Alnından vurdum, öldü. Daha sonraki çatışmalarda 9 kişiyi daha öldürdüm. Öldürdükten sonra gidip karargâhta ağlıyor, ertesi gün yine öldürüyordum. Rüyamdan çıkmıyor. Uzun süre psikolojik tedavi gördüm. Bu yüzden hala et yiyemiyorum. Kan göremiyorum. Aklıma öldürdüğüm çocuklar, kokmuş cesetler geliyor" dedi.

"O lanet olası görüntü gitmiyor"

Bu acıyı 25 yıl sonra ilk kez itiraf ettiğini söyleyen Atilla Olgaç "Türkiye'de korkunç bir savaşta bulunmuş, adam öldürmüş, gazilik unvanı almış tek sanatçıyım" dedi. Atilla Olgaç sözlerine şöyle devam etti: Savaş uzun süre mesleğimi de etkiledi. Kitlendim, bir şey yapamadım. Bugün o komutanın 'Hep sahnede numaradan mı adam öldüreceksin. Silahı al da, gerçekten öldür bakalım. Nasıl oluyormuş' dediğini hatırlıyorum. " dedi.

[Bananiot]

The story makes headlines in all newspapers today. Why do you need translation?

[Oracle]

Turkish actor remorseful over killing Greek Cypriots in 1974
By Elias Hazou

A Turkish actor appearing on a hit television series in Turkey has told of how he shot dead at least 10 Greek Cypriot soldiers during the 1974 hostilities in Cyprus.

The story was picked up by a Greek reporter based in Istanbul.

The actor, Attila Alkac, made the harrowing revelations yesterday while being interviewed on a television show broadcast by the Kanal Türk channel.

Alkac was brought on the show to talk about the ‘Valley of the Wolves’, a series dealing among other things with the controversial issue of the ‘deep state.’

Hugely popular with Turkish viewers, the series once featured a cameo by Turkish Cypriot strongman Rauf Denktash. The series has spawned a movie of the same name grossing $27.9 million at the box office.

While discussing a scene from the series where he make-believe shoots and kills someone, Alkac paused and began recounting his experiences with the Turkish invasion force in Cyprus in the summer of 1974.

Shocking the show’s hosts, Alkac described how as a conscript he got sucked into the “Turkish peacekeeping operation,” as he called it, just one day before he was set to be discharged from the army.

After disembarking on the island, Alkac approached his commanding officer and told him he was an “artist” and as such did not want, and could not, kill other human beings.

According to Alkac, the officer dismissed the plea, saying: “This is where art ends and real life begins. It’s time you felt like what it means to kill a man for real.”

Shortly after, Alkac was ordered to carry out his first execution. The victim was a 19-year-old Greek Cypriot soldier captured by Turkish forces.

The actor then described how the POW spat on his face when Alkac raised his weapon.

“I shot him in the forehead,” Alkac said with disarming candor.

“Every time I’d kill someone, I would go back to the barracks and break down in tears. But the next day, I would go out and shoot someone else. I killed nine more people.”

Alkac described how the killings still haunted him with nightmares, and that for a long time he needed psychological support to deal with the trauma of his experiences.

“To this day, I cannot eat meat and cannot stand the sight of blood. In my head I keep seeing the youths that I killed,” he said.

It is not clear whether all 10 persons Alkac claims to have killed were POWs.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

[halil]

The story makes headlines in all newspapers today. Why do you need translation?

I hope very soon they can fine and punished him . Lots of them around us . Hoping one day they can find these people from both sides and punished them . For good of nothing ....killing people even if it was war is very bad .

At least this man was brave enough to admit it .How about others....How they lives .........

[YFred]

The story makes headlines in all newspapers today. Why do you need translation?

I hope very soon they can fine and punished him . Lots of them around us . Hoping one day they can find these people from both sides and punished them . For good of nothing ....killing people even if it was war is very bad .

At least this man was brave enough to admit it .How about others....How they lives .........

That is why we need a truth commission. It's the only way to find out about all of the people who were killed by either side. Punishing them now, will stop them coming forward and giving information. It is far more important for solving the Cyprus problem that we find out exactly what happened to all the missing rather then trying to punish people for what they did under orders from their superiors. The Truth Commission worked very well to heal the wounds of people in South Africa and it can also do the same for Cyprus.