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[sadik]

However if we really want to see "who started it" we have to go to the beginning when Turks and Greeks first "met" on this island in the 15th century.

I'm sorry, I don't have such a strong sense of hisorical identity, so I won't be able to argue very passionately on this. But it might be interesting to note that Ottomans never considered themselves Turks. To them they were a Muslim empire composed of different nations (Millets). Each millet had their own institutions and laws. Turks were part of the Muslim millet. Most of the Turkish speaking people in Anatolia started calling themselves Turkish only after 1900s.

But Turkish nationalists who want to prove that the Turkish nation is the greatest nation in the world, and Orthodox Balkan nationalists (including Greek nationalists) who want to place the blame for all the evil in the world on Turks exaggerate the Turkishness of the Ottomans.

Therefore it is about time that TCs stop to pretend to be the victims that now need to be rewarded and accept that nobody should be rewarded and nobody should be punished and that we can make a new beginning with universally accepted principles applied (democracy, human rights etc).

I'm for a new beginning...

[Piratis]

Turkish Cypriots committed much more crimes against GCs?? Are you serious honestly?

garbitsch, when it suits TCs they claim that they have 500 years of history in Cyprus and then when it suits them again they claim no association with the Ottomans and their crimes.

The same happens with Turkey and TCs in 74 until today. You put all the responsibility for the crimes on Turkey, and then when we say that we should talk with the one that is responsible (Turkey) you don't like it again.

You can't have it both ways you know

I'm for a new beginning...

That would be the ideal. People of today and especially the people of tomorrow don't need to carry with them the scars of the past. Legality should return, and universally good principles should be apply. This can happen over a transitional period that can even be a long one if it is required.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

That would be the ideal. People of today and especially the people of tomorrow don't need to carry with them the scars of the past. Legality should return, and universally good principles should be apply. This can happen over a transitional period that can even be a long one if it is required.

Mr Piratis
At last something you posted that I can almost agree with.

Legality is a word you have used but its connotation is not clear to me.

I hasten to add that I am more than familiar with the denotation ( Dictionary definition ) of this word

[Kifeas]

Maybe you are not a very good secret agent. Maybe you just think you are a good one but are in fact just a GC policeman working under cover in the north since the border opened who does not really know what you are doing?

I am also trying to do some side recruitments, are you interested Erol?

[Piratis]

Legality is a word you have used but its connotation is not clear to me.

I hasten to add that I am more than familiar with the denotation ( Dictionary definition ) of this word

Your dictionary should be more than enough.

[Kifeas]

Kifeas,
It is a fact that GCs were considering various options of dealing with Turkish Cypriots, sume of which included the elimination of TCs. It is also a fact that Turkey had some bad intentions over Cyprus. Not to forget the Greek and American intentions over Cyprus.

Arguements from both TC and GC sides can have some truth to them. I think playing the blame game and trying to find out who started it all is useless. I've been following these kinds of forums for many years and I've never seen people agreeing on who started it all. I don't see a point in trying to find a beginning point to explain all things that happened afterwards. I don't think life is that simple.

What we should do is to recognize the suffering we have caused each other, the injustice we have faced, like being forced out of our houses. I think only after this recognition we can move forward, and currently none of us are doing a good job on this.

Mr. SadiK,
Congratulations!
Both of us definately want to broadcast in the same frequency!

[erolz]

I am also trying to do some side recruitments, are you interested Erol?

I do not think you could afford me, but am willing to proven wrong

[Kifeas]

I am also trying to do some side recruitments, are you interested Erol?

I do not think you could afford me, but am willing to proven wrong

Let's see how much you worth.
What can you provide?

[detailer]

Piratis, how can I put a picture from outside as an avatar?

[detailer]

Piratis, how can I put a picture from outside as an avatar?