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Well HEY....two GC were killed by a mob of TC in Guenyeli back in 1958!...but the violance was all one way still, wasnt it guys!

[suetoniuspaulinus]

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=20173&cat_id=1

It would seem from this that GC dislike TC and they know it where as TC dislike GC but do not know it

The survey is interesting, but unfortunately the sample is not representative - it is only young people 17 to 22.

In fact, from the results now coming out of the new bicommunal survey, I would say that the picture is totally different with the older people - in which age group the GCs are more affectionate to TCs than the other way round.

Also, on the whole, the GCs are more willing to accept TCs as their neighbors, and consider re-unification with the TCs a stronger motive for a solution, than the TCs do.

I'll try and post some charts later, if I have time.

Mr Lordos,

This IS what I believe the real problem is and will be.

As individuals, within our respective societies, we can rant and rave and post inflamatory comments, some with sincere belief and others in error.

Howver, I am not confidant about our ability to bring about a solution to the CYPROB, HOWEVER WE MAY VIEW IT.

I belive a "solution " will be agreed by the politicians and businessmen and, US, UN, EU, TR, GR et al. Whatever it is it will be unfair and ordinary people will suffer. It will cause pain and anguish to all.

But what will be will be.

The real problem as I see it is how to unite as brothers to build a stronger society AFTER the "solution".

Our children and youngster are NOT receiving the right messages from their elders, nor the media, nor their priests nor their politicians.

We need to teach the children. NOW. They are the future.

I think this is the best words I ever see.
Real solution will come with people.
Not with agreements.

Mr Murtaza

I believe this as well. People have this power

[garbitsch]

Well HEY....two GC were killed by a mob of TC in Guenyeli back in 1958!...but the violance was all one way still, wasnt it guys!

You shouldn't laugh when mentioning death.

[Viewpoint]

garbitsch

since the Greek Cypriot police made them turn back otherwise T.Cs were harrased by strict searches and insults... These are what I have heard from members of my family...

Thats the type of strict search I went through with my family as I describes above and I can tell you is was no fun being discriminted against for being a Turkish Cypriot in your own country.

Even this very real incident as you have all read above can be ridiculed and belittled by GCs today on this very forum can you imagine how they viewed and treated TCs back in the 1960.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

garbitsch

since the Greek Cypriot police made them turn back otherwise T.Cs were harrased by strict searches and insults... These are what I have heard from members of my family...

Thats the type of strict search I went through with my family as I describes above and I can tell you is was no fun being discriminted against for being a Turkish Cypriot in your own country.

Even this very real incident as you have all read above can be ridiculed and belittled by GCs today on this very forum can you imagine how they viewed and treated TCs back in the 1960.

Mr Viewpoint

I was fortunate enough not to be living in Cyprus at that time although I had my fair share of discrimination in other countries, like England for example. BUT not to the extent that the TC's suffered here.

To be fair, when my grandfather died and my father was obliged to find work, at the age of about 8, it was a GCcarpenter who took him on and taught him his trade. Good and Bad in all societies I suppose.

[Viewpoint]

I agree suetoniuspaulinus but GCs get real offensive when we discuss these issues, at least we admit that we were no angels and dont try to block incidents out, they have this automatic let spout a lot of words and be ultra offensive to deny and blank out all GC mistreatment towards the TC community back in the 1960-1974 period. Subconsious feeling of guilt maybe?????

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I agree suetoniuspaulinus but GCs get real offensive when we discuss these issues, at least we admit that we were no angels and dont try to block incidents out, they have this automatic let spout a lot of words and be ultra offensive to deny and blank out all GC mistreatment towards the TC community back in the 1960-1974 period. Subconsious feeling of guilt maybe?????

sorry people...but I have to swesr. VP, your being a prick as usual. If you look closely, most GC here admit that there were GC wrong doings between 63-74 (or whatever time)...what you DONT seem to understand is that we get offensive when TC like YOU, who NEVER see any guilt on the side of TC in general...and if there is, its always because of a GC.

Infact VP, tell me which GC here DOES think that all GC are angels??[/quote]

[Kifeas]

garbitsch

since the Greek Cypriot police made them turn back otherwise T.Cs were harrased by strict searches and insults... These are what I have heard from members of my family...

Thats the type of strict search I went through with my family as I describes above and I can tell you is was no fun being discriminted against for being a Turkish Cypriot in your own country.

Even this very real incident as you have all read above can be ridiculed and belittled by GCs today on this very forum can you imagine how they viewed and treated TCs back in the 1960.

Of course you want to forget or ignore the fact that since 1958 and up until 1964, TMT was secretly importing weapons and ammunition on a continues basis through the Kokkina village in Tillyria and then from there they were distributing them to all the TC strongholds all over Cyprus. And the means of distribution were civilian cars that were travelling from one area to the other.
You want to remember only the searching. You say nothing about the reasons of this searching.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas ok lets say GCs had fears and concerns and conducted strict searches, this was no reason to be abusive and insulting towards the TC inhabitants of cars that did not have arms dont you think???
Why were the importing guns? what use did they have for them? did they feel threatened??

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Mr Viewpoint

It's really the attitude that rankles me.

I have made some posts where my facts were wrong. Some GC's have corrected me in a gentlemanly manner while others seem to delight in being abusive. Why ?