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[Nikitas]

"he was simply outclassed and out-smarted; effortlessly it seems. "

Well Matsakis is a medical doctor and Erdogan's only claim to academia is that he was born in a tough neighborhood of Istanbul (according to Ali Birand). It was an uneven contest.

[paliometoxo]

its all a show for the eu so they can pretend they need two states and have an excuse to keep the army here pretending to be "afraid"

[Paphitis]

Kasoulides did not attend the dinner, in protest. Madsakis could have done the same but that was a platform for the crazy doctor to perform his populist act. By the way, the announcement came from his office and it was repeated today as news by radio.

Yeah, right!!! Mad because he challenged Erdogan and Turkey. This is what truly hearts you!

Of course, when Matsakis was given back the microphone, after Erdogan's nonsensical rave, he should have asked him if his country is ready to say all these to defend the legality of his invasion and occupation, at the International Court of Justice, and; since he (Erdogan) is so convince about the righteousness of his cause, why Turkey has then refused to comply with all such previous invitations by the RoC. This would have truly shut Erdogan's mouth, or at best would have exposed Turkey for what it is, i.e. an outlaw and a lawless bully!

Matsakis did a really good service to Cyprus by asking Erdogan these cutting questions which have no doubt damaged his standing within the EU and exposed his country for what it is.

I am glad he did not boycott the dinner like Kassoulides did. The exposure about Turkey's illegal invasion in 74 within a formal EU gathering is priceless.

The whole world knows that Turkey is a lawless bully. Unfortunately, it is tolerated for the moment, but it will not be tolerated forever. It's not as if anyone respects Turkey for they offer very little apart from geographical strategic importance. Even the US has become quite intolerant of Turkey, due to the Iraq War and Turkey's reluctance to allow the US to use Incirlik AB. Slowly but surely, Turkey's power base will abandon her, and that includes the EU.

As for Bananiot, he has been quite good at teaming up with other Turkish Partitionists such as Zan, VP, and Doesn'tmatter, just to score some cheap political points against his own countrymen and women. There should be no doubt as to his allegiances which are with Turkey and not Cyprus or Greece, because their only crime is being small when compared to Turkey which has a population of 72 million.

[Bananiot]

Matsakis is appealing to the lowly feelings of people like Paphitis and Kifeas. He is not serving his country but basically he is doing a great deservice at this moment when talks are under way to find solution. He offers a simple solution to a complex problem which might sound okay to those who are satisfied with wishful thinking but in reality he gave an opportunity at an important platform for Turkey to reiterate that Turkey did whatever it was asked from her by the international community in 2003-2004.

What Matsakis is suggesting by his latest antics is that we should not enter into negotitions for a BBF solution but demand that Turkey withdraws first from Cyprus since the "peace operation" of 1974 achieved its objectives and allow the EU principles to take over and settle the issue once and forever.

Sounds good, but I stopped believing in fairytales a long time ago.

[zan]

Matsakis is appealing to the lowly feelings of people like Paphitis and Kifeas. He is not serving his country but basically he is doing a great deservice at this moment when talks are under way to find solution. He offers a simple solution to a complex problem which might sound okay to those who are satisfied with wishful thinking but in reality he gave an opportunity at an important platform for Turkey to reiterate that Turkey did whatever it was asked from her by the international community in 2003-2004.

What Matsakis is suggesting by his latest antics is that we should not enter into negotitions for a BBF solution but demand that Turkey withdraws first from Cyprus since the "peace operation" of 1974 achieved its objectives and allow the EU principles to take over and settle the issue once and forever.

Sounds good, but I stopped believing in fairytales a long time ago.

Matsakis is the fool in the comedy duo Bananiot......I think we are supposed to be laughing at him..

[Kifeas]

Matsakis is appealing to the lowly feelings of people like Paphitis and Kifeas. He is not serving his country but basically he is doing a great deservice at this moment when talks are under way to find solution. He offers a simple solution to a complex problem which might sound okay to those who are satisfied with wishful thinking but in reality he gave an opportunity at an important platform for Turkey to reiterate that Turkey did whatever it was asked from her by the international community in 2003-2004.

What Matsakis is suggesting by his latest antics is that we should not enter into negotitions for a BBF solution but demand that Turkey withdraws first from Cyprus since the "peace operation" of 1974 achieved its objectives and allow the EU principles to take over and settle the issue once and forever.

Sounds good, but I stopped believing in fairytales a long time ago.

Banana,

Facts:

1. Turkey invaded Cyprus illegally, in violation of the UN Charter.

2. Turkey continues to illegally occupy 37% of Cyprus, violating international law and Human rights. If it was not an occupation, as Erdogan wishes to make it sound, why then are the 200 thousand refugees not allowed to settle back into your properties in the north, who is abstracting them to do so, and why the ECtHR has ever since being founding Turkey of violating the human rights a substantial proportion of the people of Cyprus?

3. Turkey did not do anything in 2004, since it none of the above two facts have been revoked. Illegal occupation of a country, and violation of human rights, are not political issues to be decided through negotiations or agreements, but are violations of international laws that should not be happening in the first place, and therefore should end, irrespective of whatever other political issues at stake. Laws are laws, and politics are politics. The later cannot possibly be used as excuses in the expense or to violate the former.

Matsakis did the right thing to challenge Erdogan, but his mistake was not to pick up on Erdogan's self-righteousness delirio (rave) and ask him if his country is ready to face the ICJ of The Hague, or why it has refused in the past to pick up on Cyprus's invitation to do so. This alone would have exposed Erdogan in the eyes of the rest of the participants, as he would have had no meaningful comments to make.

[zan]

Matsakis is appealing to the lowly feelings of people like Paphitis and Kifeas. He is not serving his country but basically he is doing a great deservice at this moment when talks are under way to find solution. He offers a simple solution to a complex problem which might sound okay to those who are satisfied with wishful thinking but in reality he gave an opportunity at an important platform for Turkey to reiterate that Turkey did whatever it was asked from her by the international community in 2003-2004.

What Matsakis is suggesting by his latest antics is that we should not enter into negotitions for a BBF solution but demand that Turkey withdraws first from Cyprus since the "peace operation" of 1974 achieved its objectives and allow the EU principles to take over and settle the issue once and forever.

Sounds good, but I stopped believing in fairytales a long time ago.

Banana,

Facts:

1. Turkey invaded Cyprus illegally, in violation of the UN Charter.

2. Turkey continues to illegally occupy 37% of Cyprus, violating international law and Human rights. If it was not an occupation, as then why are you and the rest of the 200 thousand refugees not allowed to settle back into your properties in the north, who is abstracting them to do so, and why the ECtHR has ever since being founding Turkey of violating the human rights a substantial proportion of the people of Cyprus?

3. Turkey did not do anything in 2004, since it none of the above two facts have been revoked. Illegal occupation of a country, and violation of human rights, are not political issues to be decided through negotiations or agreements, but are violations of international laws that should not be happening in the first place, and therefore should end, irrespective of whatever other political issues at stake. Laws are laws, and politics are politics. The later cannot possibly be used as excuses in the expense or to violate the former.

Matsakis did the right thing to challenge Erdogan, but his mistake was not to pick up on Erdogan's self-righteousness delirio (rave) and ask him if his country is ready to face the ICJ of The Hague, or why it has refused in the past to pick up on Cyprus's invitation to do so. This alone would have exposed Erdogan in the eyes of the rest of the participants, as he would have had no meaningful comments to make.

You took our rights to govern away at the end of a rifle and violated our human rights in 1963/74......You hold that position still but you get away with it on a daily basis...Perhaps that has got something to do with he EU and the UN not making too much of a song and dance about it.....We are making too much noise now for them to sweep us under the carpet....No easy ride for you any more mate...

[Kifeas]

You took our rights to govern away at the end of a rifle and violated our human rights in 1963/74......You hold that position still but you get away with it on a daily basis...Perhaps that has got something to do with he EU and the UN not making too much of a song and dance about it.....We are making too much noise now for them to sweep us under the carpet....No easy ride for you any more mate...

You are welcome to claim your rights in any court of this planet you wish, and the RoC is willing to attend it without hesitation. Tell me one local or international court you or Turkey have gone and demanded the return of any of the rights you claim they have been taken away from you? NONE!

You know why you have never challenged the RoC? Because you and Turkey know you have NO CASE to prove!

[zan]

You took our rights to govern away at the end of a rifle and violated our human rights in 1963/74......You hold that position still but you get away with it on a daily basis...Perhaps that has got something to do with he EU and the UN not making too much of a song and dance about it.....We are making too much noise now for them to sweep us under the carpet....No easy ride for you any more mate...

You are welcome to claim your rights in any court of this planet you wish, and the RoC is willing to attend it without hesitation. Tell me one local or international court you or Turkey have gone and demanded the return of any of the rights you claim they have been taken away from you? NONE!

You know why you have never challenged the RoC? Because you and Turkey know you have NO CASE to prove!

Yes e have mate and it is being done and proved in the talks with people who can really make a difference...You seem to be one frustrated lawyer who does not understand that just because you have a resolution, it is not the last word in anything......We will not play on the tilted pitch that you have prepared for us mate......There are other ways in the real world....You took our rights by force and we took yours......Now..Do you want o talk or not.....

[Kifeas]

You took our rights to govern away at the end of a rifle and violated our human rights in 1963/74......You hold that position still but you get away with it on a daily basis...Perhaps that has got something to do with he EU and the UN not making too much of a song and dance about it.....We are making too much noise now for them to sweep us under the carpet....No easy ride for you any more mate...

You are welcome to claim your rights in any court of this planet you wish, and the RoC is willing to attend it without hesitation. Tell me one local or international court you or Turkey have gone and demanded the return of any of the rights you claim they have been taken away from you? NONE!

You know why you have never challenged the RoC? Because you and Turkey know you have NO CASE to prove!

Yes e have mate and it is being done and proved in the talks with people who can really make a difference...You seem to be one frustrated lawyer who does not understand that just because you have a resolution, it is not the last word in anything......We will not play on the tilted pitch that you have prepared for us mate......There are other ways in the real world....You took our rights by force and we took yours......Now..Do you want o talk or not.....

Not only you have never dared to challenge anything in any international forum or court, but even to those you and Turkey were invited to prove your claims or “case,” vs. the Greek Cypriot ones, you refused to proceed. What else does anyone need to see, before realising you have NO CASE whatsoever, and all you say is just lies and distortions that you too know too well of it.