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[garbitsch]

I claim the ownership of the whole world.

Wow r u serious?

[Piratis]

Wow r u serious?

of course not. Only total retards (e.g. Denctash) could be serious when claiming ridiculous things.

[suetoniuspaulinus]

Sir Tony,

That was for administration purposes. Not because of land ownership.The privately owned lands of the TCs were always (since the British came here) around 12%.

By regards to Regina Sue and to Paulina or Paul.

Did I guess correct SueToniusPaulinus

Mr MicAtCyp

Thanks for putting me right.

I especially like the Sir Tony bit

I have to admit that some times I can lose my cool but I promise you that I do not possess multiple personalities.

Soooo I think you will have to try and guess again

[Viewpoint]

Piratis

They will keep the 36% in which they performed ethnic cleansing for another 5-10-20-50-100 years, and then they will get 0% within days. This is what they choose.

My friend you will be long gone and still waiting for the change in power in the white clouds in the sky(assuming u get to heaven) to happen, dream on

[Piratis]

You will be long gone before me.

[TVSET]

A side note: tanks are a really really bad weapon to be used in Cyprus. Especially those of Russian/Soviet manufacture that RoC has now...

Television box,

I do prefer TVSET if you don't mind.

Where are you from?

Russia.

Are you a Cypriot?

No. Not yet at least.

What do you know about the Russian/Soviet manufacture Tanks that RoC has now? Do you know which model of tanks the RoC has now?

If I remember correctly, RoC bought some T-72 tanks.

[Viewpoint]

No guarantees there my friend, could be you could be me who knows or do you have a direct line? you probably have this issue covered as well

[Kifeas]

Mr Kifeas

I'm sorry to drag you away from discussing the toys of war but I'm a little perturbed about yor thought of 18% - 82%
land distribution.

Even His Beatitude Archbishop Makarios offered Mr Denktas 20%-25% in 1977. ( TC land ownership claimed as 32/33% )

Why should we retreat from this figure

My friend,
You are sinking into the absolute of misinformation. I just wonder why we bother at all discussing issues relating to the Cyprus problem, if you do not know even the most basic parameters that constitute the problem. 32%-33% of TC land ownership is the fairy tail story that your chauvinistic leadership has been singing into your ears during all these years, in order to alleviate the feelings of guild that you might have felt as a result of the grabbing of 36% of Cyprus by Turkey and the declaration of a separate “state.”

Since 1960, when the government land registry passed from the British to the RoC, the TC private property (land) ownership was close to the TC community’s population percentage. In 1974, based on the records of the RoC Land Registry, the total private land of Cyprus was equal to 6,815 sq. km’s (73.7% of the Cyprus territory) and the remaining 26.3% (2,436 sq. km’s) was state and forest land. Out of the 6,815 sq. km’s of the total private land, only 1,131 sq. km’s (12.23% of total Cyprus territory ord 16.6% of total private land) belonged to TCs (individuals and EVKAF.)

Where did you find the 32%-33% percent? What century are you talking about? When the Ottomans occupied Cyprus? Before the Ottomans occupied Cyprus in 1571, the TCs had 0% of Cyprus properties.

Makarios offered 24% in 1977 to be the area under TC administration within the framework of a Federation solution. Not in terms of a partition solution. Makarios offer was based on the mutual understanding, which was made clear and recorded in the UN SC resolutions, that every person (individual) will retain the ownership his property, irrespective of which community will have the administration of the area.

Do not mix eggs with oranges, and also learn some basic facts before coming here to talk about the Cyprus problem.

[Kifeas]

What do you know about the Russian/Soviet manufacture Tanks that RoC has now? Do you know which model of tanks the RoC has now?

If I remember correctly, RoC bought some T-72 tanks.

RoC never bought T-72 Soviet tanks. RoC bought only about 155 T-80U tanks from Russia. Are they no good?

[TVSET]

RoC never bought T-72 Soviet tanks. RoC bought only about 155 T-80U tanks from Russia. Are they no good?

Sorry, my memory must be failing me. Anyway, T-80 looks very much like T-72.

There are two main disadvantages for tanks usage in Cyprus. Firstly, I haven't heard of any Russian tank with air condition. Sitting inside a metal can in the middle of nowhere, while in combat, while having outside temperatures climbing over +40C (plus the additional combat heat and stress) can render the tank operating crew useless. Second disadvantage of tanks in Cyprus is more generic and applies to all brands - rocky gravel. Tanks are not very good with this type of surface.

Not to mention that Cyprus is rather mounty of tanks. There aren't enough wide open spaces for proper tank battles. Tank devisions will, at some point, have to travel through mountains, which means a narrow path for kilometers and kilometers. Such paths are bottlenecks which are very easy to control.

Also, as it was mentioned before, the absolute lack of air support makes tanks very vulnerable.