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Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:43 am

Oracle wrote:Why is no one buzzing about my bee revelation?

Einstein said that if the honeybee became extinct, then so would mankind.

Oh well ... :roll:

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.

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What about Wasps and other insects? Shows how much Einstein knew!
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:59 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why is no one buzzing about my bee revelation?

Einstein said that if the honeybee became extinct, then so would mankind.

Oh well ... :roll:

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.

Carl Sagan


What about Wasps and other insects? Shows how much Einstein knew!


The point with bees is that they are responsible for pollination and without that we would have major problems.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:48 am

CBBB wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why is no one buzzing about my bee revelation?

Einstein said that if the honeybee became extinct, then so would mankind.

Oh well ... :roll:

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.

Carl Sagan


What about Wasps and other insects? Shows how much Einstein knew!


The point with bees is that they are responsible for pollination and without that we would have major problems.


Precisely. It starts a domino effect. Certain plants die out through lack of pollination, which leads to loss of other animals dependent on them, which leads to loss of higher animals dependent on tree/plant eating animals etc etc.

Pyramid effect on the food chain.

(BTW Doesnmatter you twerp! I made the revelation intitially, and no one commented on it, until I said it was Einstein's! Clearly it became more significant then :roll: .... :lol: )
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Bees do all that? Wow! What about the sun, shouldn´t we worry because it will become extinct in precisely 4.99 million years? How will this affect us oracle?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:51 pm

Bananiot wrote:Bees do all that? Wow! What about the sun, shouldn´t we worry because it will become extinct in precisely 4.99 million years? How will this affect us oracle?


Really! The Sun to run out of gas in 4.99 M years!

Never mind; we'll just switch over to using your infinite personal supply :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:11 pm

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Bananiot wrote:Bees do all that? Wow! What about the sun, shouldn´t we worry because it will become extinct in precisely 4.99 million years? How will this affect us oracle?


Really! The Sun to run out of gas in 4.99 M years!

Never mind; we'll just switch over to using your infinite personal supply :lol:


Did you know that in the US, bees have been dying out due to some disease which has attacked their immune system?

Australia then started exporting bees to the US, so that their crops can be pollinated, but unfortunately the Aussie bees contracted the same disease in the US. :(

Could this be a glimpse of what may happen down the track all over the world? If it is, then the whole eco system could be in jeopardy.

The World Today - Monday, 7 May , 2007 12:43:07
Reporter: Kim Landers
ELEANOR HALL: To a booming Australian export, not minerals but bees.

Australian bee exporters are finding they can't send enough Aussie bees to the United States, where local bees are mysteriously disappearing by the hundreds of thousands.

Research in the US has found that something is attacking the local bees' immune system, rendering the bees vulnerable to any contagion. Australian bees have been coming to the rescue, trying to make up the numbers to pollinate many of America's crops.

But now the new arrivals are also dying, as North America Correspondent Kim Landers reports.

KIM LANDERS: The flight of the bees is proving a mystery. An estimated one quarter of America's 2.5-million bee colonies has been lost. The US Department of Agriculture says bees have been vanishing from 22 states, and no one really knows why.

It means commercial beekeepers, like George Hansen from Oregon, have increased the number of Australian bees they're importing. He says the bees come on packages, put on a flight from Sydney to San Francisco.

GEORGE HANSEN: Somewhere between 25,000 and 50,000 per Spring have been brought into California from Australia and these are three or four pounds each.

KIM LANDERS: How much does a package of bees cost?

GEORGE HANSEN: Three pound package with a queen is somewhere between $110 and $120 and a four-pound package with a queen is somewhere between $130 and $140.

KIM LANDERS: Jeff Anderson is another commercial beekeeper who moves between California and Minnesota. He has used Aussie bees for the past two years, but doesn't think they're immune from the mysterious colony collapse.

JEFF ANDERSON: I'm fairly suspicious that it is directly tied with this colony collapse, because what we noticed on our first shipment in this year, we installed 385 packages and - which is a full shipment - and within three days we probably lost between 75 and 80 per cent of the field bees out of those packages that we installed.

KIM LANDERS: So, what do you think is behind it?

JEFF ANDERSON: Research people out at Penn State said that when they dissect bees that have died from colony collapse, that it appears their immune system has just totally gone to pieces. It's like they just lost their immune system and anything will kill them.

KIM LANDERS: Bees are needed to pollinate about 90 varieties of fruit and vegetables grown in the US, including apples, avocados and blueberries.

Jeff Anderson says the disappearance of the American bees is not the only reason why Australian bees are being used.

JEFF ANDERSON: There's a couple other factors that are creating a need for Australian bees. The almond industry here in the United States, particularly in California I should say, has done a major expansion and we're short on pollinators.

We'll soon be short on pollinators for that crop, so I think the Australian package thing is probably here to stay for a while.

KIM LANDERS: A few years ago, none of this would have been possible. Beekeepers say America has only started to import Australian bees thanks to the Australia-US Free Trade Agreement.

This is Kim Landers reporting from Washington.


http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/conten ... 916354.htm

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmen ... e-88122201
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:34 pm

Oracle wrote:
CBBB wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why is no one buzzing about my bee revelation?

Einstein said that if the honeybee became extinct, then so would mankind.

Oh well ... :roll:

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.

Carl Sagan


What about Wasps and other insects? Shows how much Einstein knew!


The point with bees is that they are responsible for pollination and without that we would have major problems.


Precisely. It starts a domino effect. Certain plants die out through lack of pollination, which leads to loss of other animals dependent on them, which leads to loss of higher animals dependent on tree/plant eating animals etc etc.

Pyramid effect on the food chain.

(BTW Doesnmatter you twerp! I made the revelation intitially, and no one commented on it,
How can it be your revelation when everyone knew about it already?


until I said it was Einstein's! Clearly it became more significant then :roll: .... :lol: )


Precisely old girl, Einstein is more significant than you are. :wink:

So, are you going to start a new thread and reveal that the wheel has been invented? :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:11 pm

Good for you Doesntunderstandmuch! Thank you for revealing your superior Genius-level knowledge.

So you paid attention to your Biology teacher when you did Food Webs and knew this "revelation" before everyone, including Einstein .... Top marks!

Interestingly Einstein, being a physicist (unlike Doesntknowalot) took a little longer to become aware of this phenomenon (unlike Doesntshinealot), but the appreciation was not beyond him.

Physicists are always re-discovering that nature has gotten there first ... bit like Doesnthaveabraincell .... :lol:

Anyway, kindly take your ill-informed, thought-process sabotaging mentality to some other topic to amuse you for a day... But thanks for the revelation on the outstanding emphasis you place on such matters. (Maybe it did surprise you :wink: ).
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:05 pm

It's like evolution, which takes place despite natural selection.
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Postby yialousa1971 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:20 pm

CBBB wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:Why is no one buzzing about my bee revelation?

Einstein said that if the honeybee became extinct, then so would mankind.

Oh well ... :roll:

Who are we? We find that we live on an insignificant planet of a humdrum star lost in a galaxy tucked away in some forgotten corner of a universe in which there are far more galaxies than people.

Carl Sagan


What about Wasps and other insects? Shows how much Einstein knew!


The point with bees is that they are responsible for pollination and without that we would have major problems.


It is not just Bees that are responsible for pollination, Wasps, Moths, Butterflies and other insects. Plus birds and the wind, so it's not just Bees that are responsible.
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