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[MrH]

REUTERS:

14:13 19Jan2009 EU'S BARROSO SAYS AGREED WITH TURKEY ON NEED FOR NABUCCO GAS PIPELINE
14:26 19Jan2009 EU, Turkey say agree Nabucco pipeline needed

BRUSSELS, Jan 19 (Reuters) - European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said on Monday the EU and Turkey agreed on the need for the Nabucco pipeline that would bring gas to the EU via Turkey.
"We agreed for the need for this pipleline," Barroso said after talks with Erdogan, who earlier on Monday threatened to review support for the project over EU member Cyprus's veto of the energy portion of Turkey's EU accession talks.
Erdogan said at a news conference with Barroso, regarding the Nabucco project: "We give full support all the time."
The Nabucco project is one day hoped to carry 30 billion cubic metres (bcm) of Caspian or Middle Eastern gas annually to an Austrian hub via Turkey.
((Reporting by Ingrid Melander; Writing by David Brunnstrom; [email protected] ; +32 2 287 6839; Reuters Messaging: [email protected] ))
Keywords: TURKEY EU/PIPELINE
Monday, 19 January 2009 14:13:11RTRS [nBFA000860] {C}ENDS

What else can I say other than that Turkey's importance for the EU is growing and soon the EU will deliver what Turkey wants on Cyprus!

Time is running out!

The year is 2009, and not 2004!


N.b - Please no B.S, no unregistered quotes from secondary websites to prove GC points of view - FACTS only!

[Tim Drayton]

Interestingly, the director of the Nabucco project, Reinhard Mitsehek, was reported as saying that the the cost of steel has fallen by 47% since the project was costed. Two million tonnes of steel will be involved. Mitsehek said that the investment costs would be re-negotiated and that "Nice suprises may emerge".

(Cumhuriyet, 8 January 2009)

[Tim Drayton]

An English language source on the above story:

http://georgiandaily.com/index.php?opti ... &Itemid=74

[zan]

Interestingly, the director of the Nabucco project, Reinhard Mitsehek, was reported as saying that the the cost of steel has fallen by 47% since the project was costed. Two million tonnes of steel will be involved. Mitsehek said that the investment costs would be re-negotiated and that "Nice suprises may emerge".

(Cumhuriyet, 8 January 2009)

It says POSITIVE surprises but either way...I don't get what you are saying???

[Get Real!]

What else can I say other than that Turkey's importance for the EU is growing and soon the EU will deliver what Turkey wants on Cyprus!

Here’s what garbage like you and Turkey will accomplish…

[Tim Drayton]

Interestingly, the director of the Nabucco project, Reinhard Mitsehek, was reported as saying that the the cost of steel has fallen by 47% since the project was costed. Two million tonnes of steel will be involved. Mitsehek said that the investment costs would be re-negotiated and that "Nice suprises may emerge".

(Cumhuriyet, 8 January 2009)

It says POSITIVE surprises but either way...I don't get what you are saying???

Agreed, Cumhuriyet put this as "Güzel sürprizler çıkabilir", and this is what I translated.

The point is that pipelines are made of steel, and if the cost of steel has halved then this pipeline will be cheaper to build and so the project is more likely to go ahead. The geopolitical consequences of this will be great, in my opinion.

[zan]

What else can I say other than that Turkey's importance for the EU is growing and soon the EU will deliver what Turkey wants on Cyprus!

Here’s what garbage like you and Turkey will accomplish…

Thats the wrong "Pipeline" GR......That would not even stretch across the map let alone the real thing...Keep it in your pants mate...

[MrH]

Get Real,

I love it when you GCs can't handle the truth, can't handle the fact that Turkey's importance in that entire area, in collaboration with the EU, will ultimately put the Greek Cypriot Nationalistic stance behind their iron-curtain!

Money Talks!

The Greek Cypriot racist attitude, isolation of the Turkish Cypriots since the 2004 Annan Plan referendum is nearing a close!

We have had enough of your Greek Cypriot isolation of our right to trade freely, recognition of our Turkish Cypriot Republic and of the relentless lies and failed promises.

It's about time the Greek Cypriots let it go - Just, let it go!

Turkey has many more projects in line with the EU - just watch this space from now until Dec 2009!

[Kifeas]

Köylü Tayip Erdçoglan has gone to Brussels and started letting his tong go loose, around various EU offices. Among the things he said in a European Policy Center event, were some threats he heralded towards the EU, claiming that “if the energy chapter of Turkey’s EU accession process does not open due to the known Cypriot objections, his country will not hesitate to back down from the construction of the “Nabuco” pipe line.” He further said that “he does not understand why the EU chooses to side with a country of 700 thousand people, instead of a country of 70 million.” Wow!!!

Piss off, Mr. Erdçoglan, piss off!!! If the EU does not tell you in no uncertain terms that your country should back down from her unreasonable claims on Cyprus’ continental shelf rights, and if you do not promise that will never send again your warships to harass RoC funded explorations and future drillings into Cyprus’s economic zone, not only the Energy chapter is not going to open, but your entire accession will be put on a permanent hold. Furthermore, if your country does not learn how to win an argument through legal and other lawful means, such as international courts, etc, and instead it will continue to think that it is only enough to throw its military might across, then you actually do not have a place in the EU, nor in any other international organization.

[MrH]

Kifeas,

Clearly you don't understand the bigger picture.

Don't get me wrong as I am NO lover of Mr Erdogan, in the least - but he does raise thought provoking issues! But, unfortunately not in a tactful way!

Turkey's importance to the EU, US and UK are obvious, even GR knows that. But, unfortunately, and perhaps Erdogan will learn, it will not happen under HIS (Erdogan's) leadership! (not in a million years!) As soon as Erdogan and the AKP are out, the better Turkey will be able to show its true significance, - in a positive, economic, political and non-religious way of course.

Turkey has a lot of potential and is positioned in a very advantageous Geo-political location as an energy hub, synergy of two continents, able to bring peace to the entire region and is obviously not a religiously ruled country (unlike the Greek Cypriot Orthodox leadership in Southern Cyprus!) but one based on Secularism and democracy.

Erdogan is exactly what the Greek Cypriots love to see, but they won't be laughing for too long as Turkey's leadership will one day hit the right note and politically put the Greek Cypriots to sleep with a couple of swift maneuvers. For the Greek Cypriots to even comment about a Country as powerful, as young, as developing and as instrumental to EU progression proves how truly ignorant and stupid the Greek Cypriots really are. Turkiye is changing, dramatically and either the Greek Cypriots learn to work closely with the country, or they will ultimately lose out.

The EU has already started understanding Turkey's importance, perhaps the Greek Cypriots should hang up their lies and false promises of security and ownership and give us, Turkish Cypriots, a break as we've been suffering from the same migraine for years.