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the final nail in the current negotiations coffin??

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Postby zan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:04 pm

growuptcs wrote:
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I really must protest to the Mods and Admin here for allowing this much racism from this idiot and Oracle.....I am sure there are Internet rules against this kind of behavior....


Let me get this straight........you demand recognition to your exclusive panda bear club in northern Cyprus with diplomatic immunity.....THEN you demand respect either from the EU or UN so you pandas can keep shitting all over the place without GC's getting in the way. I would of went with it the whole way zan, but the colors on your panda suit started to run, so I'm renegging, I want my property back.


Get your government to give back what is mine and and accept your part in all of this and then all will be well.......Look to your own for your troubles as well.... :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:18 pm

Paphitis wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:And if you fucking arseholes come within cooee of our exploration vessels should this deal go ahead, you will be dealing with the RAN, and soon we will have our aircraft carriers commissioned as well. :D


Another Gallipoli? :lol:


How about we shove a couple of aircraft carriers right under your nose. I am pretty sure they are destined for the Med and Gulf anyway.

Do you think a Turkish warship would have the guts to come within 100 NM? :D Let's se how brave your Generals are.


If you are going to be one of the pilots Turkey has nothing to worry about I would say. :lol:


It seems that Turkey is VERY worried about the RoC's oil exploration activities.

It is Cyprus that has nothing to worry about, because soon the oil money wil be rolling in and you boys will still be eating Fassoulia, whilst in the RoC it will be Souvla and Caviar every day. :lol:

YOU LEFT OUT THE AMELETITA , PICKLED ONES !!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:14 pm

When 2 tribes go to war, a point is all that u can score... the little happiness of little people over each others "winnings" and "losings".

They r supposed to be allies in the same alliance and others supposed to reconcile a dispute and build a common future.
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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And if you fucking arseholes come within cooee of our exploration vessels should this deal go ahead, you will be dealing with the RAN, and soon we will have our aircraft carriers commissioned as well. :D


Another Gallipoli? :lol:


How about we shove a couple of aircraft carriers right under your nose. I am pretty sure they are destined for the Med and Gulf anyway.

Do you think a Turkish warship would have the guts to come within 100 NM? :D Let's se how brave your Generals are.


Judging by their activities in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think you will find that rather then the Yanks taking on the might of the Turkish Military; it would be more practical to ditch the contract with Cyprus and have one with Turkey. Fancy that.


I am sure that the Yanks and the Aussies would rather go through legal avenues, as they too have an EEZ with valuable resources and they would not wish to set a precedent.

So far the RoC has the US on board, and hopefully they will have Australia on board as well. Don't even think that your "military might" is even a consideration. I can really see you guys behaving yourselves for once, :lol: because your "military might" is no match and can be neutralised within days. You Turks never cease to amaze me. You think that your military is indestructable, but the fact of the matter is you wouldn't even dare come within range of an Aussie vessel, unless your intentions were friendly, let alone the US 6th fleet which can turn all of Turkey into glass within hours and just a few mouse clicks.

As for Turkish Military might - what might are you referring to? You don't even boast a serious defence industry.


Now that is some threat, Aussie vessels, they will not even need to shoot at them . They will sink by themselves as they are accustomed to floating upside down, down there in the land of down under.

More seriously if it was as easy as you suggest and clear cut in international law, how is it that Greece has not started to drill in the Aegean. Its not that simple even if the oils is between Cyprus and Egypt. Turkey will have a claim whether you like it or not.
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Re: the final nail in the current negotiations coffin??

Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:20 am

Gas found near Cyprus reports Israeli media


Big Al wrote:the final nail in the current negotiations coffin??


Stick to your fishing thread BigAl... :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:11 am

growuptcs wrote:
zan:

I really must protest to the Mods and Admin here for allowing this much racism from this idiot and Oracle.....I am sure there are Internet rules against this kind of behavior....


Let me get this straight........you demand recognition to your exclusive panda bear club in northern Cyprus with diplomatic immunity.....THEN you demand respect either from the EU or UN so you pandas can keep shitting all over the place without GC's getting in the way. I would of went with it the whole way zan, but the colors on your panda suit started to run, so I'm renegging, I want my property back.


You should not have tried to take mine if you didn't want to lose yours then should you?
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Postby utu » Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:58 am

I have a close friend who is in the Royal Australian Navy. That branch of the Australian Armed Forces is not large, compared with other navies, but it is professional and well-regarded internationally for its efficiency. Canadian warships exercise with their vessels, and the Canadians can testify that they are not to be under-rated...
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Postby Big Al » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:30 am

between the iraq and afganistan wars, troubles in the pacific and protecting our borders the Australian navy is stretched to capacity, no GC should rely on australia to come to their rescue particularly since our current government does not have a stomach for more conflict not to mention Australia excellent relations with Turkey. Just another pipe dream by GC's like the dream of russia, greece, france etc etc coming to their rescue.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:38 am

Big Al wrote:between the iraq and afganistan wars, troubles in the pacific and protecting our borders the Australian navy is stretched to capacity, no GC should rely on australia to come to their rescue particularly since our current government does not have a stomach for more conflict not to mention Australia excellent relations with Turkey. Just another pipe dream by GC's like the dream of russia, greece, france etc etc coming to their rescue.


Believe me when I tell you that Australia has the most advance surveillance and intelligence gathering networks in the world. Satellite surveillance covers all of Australia's coastline 24/7, and is supplemented with civil and military surveillance aircraft and UAVs. Illegal immigration, drug running is nonexistent, with airports and ports being the only "soft" spot.

The intelligence gathering infrastructure is second to none and covers the globe. Pine Gap is just one part of the intelligence link which hooks up with other agencies and nations from bases in North America (NORAD), Cyprus, Gibraltar, Middle East, Germany, UK, and SE Asia. The capability is extraordinary as virtually any mobile phone conversation, email, net based forum messages, radio transmission can be intercepted at a phenomenal rate and fed through computers where they are sifted and categorised accordingly using various methods. It is estimated that around 20,000,000 mobile phone conversations are intercepted daily. The information is processed at The Defence Signals Directorate in Canberra, which is Australia's most secretive and covert agencies. Other intelligence is handled by ASIO and ASIC (Australia's CIA equivalent).

Australia's navy is not needed to protect Australia's borders. It is planned that the RAN will be divided into 2 main battle groups. The Indian Ocean Fleet and The Pacific Fleet. Each battle group will comprise 1 aircraft carrier, 2 Air Warfare Destroyers, 4 Destroyers, 4 Frigates, 4 Corvettes, 3 Collins Class Submarines and 2 Supply ships.

For border security, Australia will rely on its surveillance capabilities, which are second to none and the Freemantle Class Patrol Fleet. The only issue which is of concern is the illegal Indonesian shark fin fishing fleet in the North, and the illegal Russian Patagonian Toothfish fleet around Heard Island within Australia's Antarctic territories.

The RAN is very easily able to deploy anywhere around the world to protect Australian interests which may also include drilling for oil within Cyprus' EEZ. Any Turkish warship can be dealt with quite easily by the RAN, not that it would be necessary because Turkey would not even dare to provoke a navy with so much fire power. The fact that Australian ships are also able to replenish in Cyprus, Crete, Malta, or Gibraltar is also advantageous.

The RAN is a small navy, but in terms of firepower it is one of the most capable in the world. The 2 Aircraft Carriers will most probably be equipped with F-18 Super Hornets until a suitable alternative is found.

You may also think that Australian relations with Turkey are excellent, but that is not entirely correct. Australian relations with Turkey can only be classified as good, but relations with Cyprus are excellent. Australia values Cyprus much more than it does Turkey, because the 2 British SBAs are a vital link in Australia's intelligence gathering capabilities that I mentioned earlier. For this very reason, one RAN Battle Group could very likely be permanently based in the East Mediterranean where they will more than likely cooperate with the US 6th Fleet, and NATO.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:07 am

YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Paphitis wrote:And if you fucking arseholes come within cooee of our exploration vessels should this deal go ahead, you will be dealing with the RAN, and soon we will have our aircraft carriers commissioned as well. :D


Another Gallipoli? :lol:


How about we shove a couple of aircraft carriers right under your nose. I am pretty sure they are destined for the Med and Gulf anyway.

Do you think a Turkish warship would have the guts to come within 100 NM? :D Let's se how brave your Generals are.


Judging by their activities in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think you will find that rather then the Yanks taking on the might of the Turkish Military; it would be more practical to ditch the contract with Cyprus and have one with Turkey. Fancy that.


I am sure that the Yanks and the Aussies would rather go through legal avenues, as they too have an EEZ with valuable resources and they would not wish to set a precedent.

So far the RoC has the US on board, and hopefully they will have Australia on board as well. Don't even think that your "military might" is even a consideration. I can really see you guys behaving yourselves for once, :lol: because your "military might" is no match and can be neutralised within days. You Turks never cease to amaze me. You think that your military is indestructable, but the fact of the matter is you wouldn't even dare come within range of an Aussie vessel, unless your intentions were friendly, let alone the US 6th fleet which can turn all of Turkey into glass within hours and just a few mouse clicks.

As for Turkish Military might - what might are you referring to? You don't even boast a serious defence industry.


Now that is some threat, Aussie vessels, they will not even need to shoot at them . They will sink by themselves as they are accustomed to floating upside down, down there in the land of down under.

More seriously if it was as easy as you suggest and clear cut in international law, how is it that Greece has not started to drill in the Aegean. Its not that simple even if the oils is between Cyprus and Egypt. Turkey will have a claim whether you like it or not.


I forgot to mention that RAN does not sink their own vessels either.

Remember Kocatepe? :lol: :lol:
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