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[Nikitas]

You people all virgins or what!

Of course there is nepotims and rule of the incompetent in Cyprus!

Deniz paints an all too familiar picture above with this cousin's dismissal. In Cypriot (I am sure the phraseology is common to both languages) we would say "our lot is out, their lot is in, so I am out of a job".

This is the very situation I had in mind when I often noted that with THREE CIVIL SERVICES under a BBF solution there is potentially THREE TIMES the amount of nepotism and incompetence that can go on.

Zan of course is behaving like the representative of some pure sector of Cypriot society pretending that this kind of bullshit does not happen in the TRNC, which would make all the complaints about this from knowledgeable TC who live in the TRNC sound like the rantings of lunatics.

These problems, endemic to Cypriot society on both sides of the ethnic divide, are the major problems of the island. The "Cyprus Problem" is a good camouflage and excuse for not dealing with these problems. Once there is no Cyprus Problem then we will have to deal with the real Cyprus Problems.

And it is not onlyh Cyprus. For those that are a little older and lived in Britain the words Poulson Affair should mean a lot. And right now an investigatin is still going on about the financing of the Labour Party and the sale of honours in exchange for party funding.

On an EU wide basis let me tell you that at some point we will hear about the channeling of funds from EU programmes into party coffers in more than one EU member state. And that will be a BIG STORY!

And to put football hooliganism in perspective, albeit a personal one. In my view the hooligans are expressing a level of frustration which in past times would have led them to join extremist political factions. Nowdays politics is not the in thing and they find football as an alternative. I am sure that the attacks were not focused on TCs, in other instances there were attacks against GC cars and cafes. This kind of blind rage is not a football problem and it is a mistake to treat like one. If there was no football it would be some other activity which would be the excuse.

We should be asking why these people feel frustrated to the level of breaking out in a violent rage. This has been a problem with Cyprus since way back. There is a law, from British colonial times, in the Cyprus statute book forbidding people from possessing knives at weddings. It seems unconnected but it is not. A social gathering where the frustrated would break out in a violent rage, then it was weddings now it is football. The cause is the same, the response is equally ineffective.

[zan]

You people all virgins or what!

Of course there is nepotims and rule of the incompetent in Cyprus!

Deniz paints an all too familiar picture above with this cousin's dismissal. In Cypriot (I am sure the phraseology is common to both languages) we would say "our lot is out, their lot is in, so I am out of a job".

This is the very situation I had in mind when I often noted that with THREE CIVIL SERVICES under a BBF solution there is potentially THREE TIMES the amount of nepotism and incompetence that can go on.

Zan of course is behaving like the representative of some pure sector of Cypriot society pretending that this kind of bullshit does not happen in the TRNC, which would make all the complaints about this from knowledgeable TC who live in the TRNC sound like the rantings of lunatics.

These problems, endemic to Cypriot society on both sides of the ethnic divide, are the major problems of the island. The "Cyprus Problem" is a good camouflage and excuse for not dealing with these problems. Once there is no Cyprus Problem then we will have to deal with the real Cyprus Problems.

And it is not onlyh Cyprus. For those that are a little older and lived in Britain the words Poulson Affair should mean a lot. And right now an investigatin is still going on about the financing of the Labour Party and the sale of honours in exchange for party funding.

On an EU wide basis let me tell you that at some point we will hear about the channeling of funds from EU programmes into party coffers in more than one EU member state. And that will be a BIG STORY!

And to put football hooliganism in perspective, albeit a personal one. In my view the hooligans are expressing a level of frustration which in past times would have led them to join extremist political factions. Nowdays politics is not the in thing and they find football as an alternative. I am sure that the attacks were not focused on TCs, in other instances there were attacks against GC cars and cafes. This kind of blind rage is not a football problem and it is a mistake to treat like one. If there was no football it would be some other activity which would be the excuse.

We should be asking why these people feel frustrated to the level of breaking out in a violent rage. This has been a problem with Cyprus since way back. There is a law, from British colonial times, in the Cyprus statute book forbidding people from possessing knives at weddings. It seems unconnected but it is not. A social gathering where the frustrated would break out in a violent rage, then it was weddings now it is football. The cause is the same, the response is equally ineffective.

You must have missed my post where the whole point I made was that NOBODIES PERFECT

I have never said that everything is perfect in the TRNC.....I have, however, dismissed the claims from the "RoC" side with evidence and examples....

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

[Get Real!]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

[doesntmatter]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

Do you ever cross over to the "fantasy land" GR?

[Get Real!]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

Do you ever cross over to the "fantasy land" GR?

I crossed over three times but ever since DT's father in law's death we have never crossed again and don't plan to unless international human rights laws are respected.

[doesntmatter]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

Do you ever cross over to the "fantasy land" GR?

I crossed over three times but ever since DT's father in law's death we have never crossed again and don't plan to unless international human rights laws are respected.

I have no idea about DT's father in law's death so will not comment on it but I am sort of interested how you can find a none existing "fantasy land" and even cross over?

Do you by any chance mean "international human rights laws" in South Greek Cyorus where the police does nothing about racism and even helps convicted murderers to escape?

[Get Real!]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

Do you ever cross over to the "fantasy land" GR?

I crossed over three times but ever since DT's father in law's death we have never crossed again and don't plan to unless international human rights laws are respected.

I have no idea about DT's father in law's death so will not comment on it but I am sort of interested how you can find a none existing "fantasy land" and even cross over?

Do you by any chance mean "international human rights laws" in South Greek Cyorus where the police does nothing about racism and even helps convicted murderers to escape?

Like you said... you know nothing about this so maybe you should just shut up.

[doesntmatter]

It is really amusing to see the problems on the TRNC side always distanced from the Cypriot but when the very self same problems appear on the "RoC" side, kit is all of a sudden a "Cypriot" thing......Very funny

Funny? We're well aware that many or most TCs live in a fantasy world whereby Cyprus = "TRNC" but the rest of the world doesn't share that illusion.

Do you ever cross over to the "fantasy land" GR?

I crossed over three times but ever since DT's father in law's death we have never crossed again and don't plan to unless international human rights laws are respected.

I have no idea about DT's father in law's death so will not comment on it but I am sort of interested how you can find a none existing "fantasy land" and even cross over?

Do you by any chance mean "international human rights laws" in South Greek Cyorus where the police does nothing about racism and even helps convicted murderers to escape?

Like you said... you know nothing about this so maybe you should just shut up.

What hurst more GR, the turth that racism in your banana republic is institutionalised or the fact that your joke of a "police force" is as corrupt as your leaders, like TPapadopoulos was?

[utu]

Let's get back to the forum topic, folks. Does this spate of violence against the Turkish Cypriot vehicles need to be something that can be dismissed as football hooliganism, or is it indicative of something more sinister?

[zan]

Let's get back to the forum topic, folks. Does this spate of violence against the Turkish Cypriot vehicles need to be something that can be dismissed as football hooliganism, or is it indicative of something more sinister?

Which ever way you want to interpret it utu.....From little acorns and all that!!!