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[halil]

Since speaking to a couple of very good GC friends who was at the stadium on Saturday night and went to their homes with loads of bruises that evening,i learned few disturbing facts which is not pronounced elsewhere.

After the game,a large group of Omonia supporters (AKEL members) and some TC's having coffee at the stadium cafeteria waiting for the crowd to disperse outside was attacked by at least one hundred fully equipped riot police and beaten up badly with truncheons.
According to my friends,their excuse was that earlier someone from the Omonia supporters crowd threw a plastic cup of water over a policeman..

Now,if the ROC police is capable of mobilizing large groups of fully kitted riot police in short time,one wonders why they are not taking any action against these thugs attacking innocent civilians at the same spot after every APOEL game.

According to my friends,there are elements within the ROC police force who happen to be under the influence of the right wing opposition parties and they are in a silent war with AKEL administration who is rocking their boat.

Apparently,some time ago AKEL administration has started a "clean up" process within the police force to weed out crooked and politically motivated cops and this is has caused a stir within the force,specially after the arrest of some high ranking cops over Al Capone Kittas case.So,they are trying to show AKEL administration what they are capable of.(politically)

It showed on Sigma Tv , how the police were beating up the supporters .

also showed the breaks and damages have been done to stadium and toilets .

polices were beaten up the boys with white/green t shirts .

[denizaksulu]

DT Wrote:

I am a little surprised that they only just realised after 6 years in power that the police need a cleanup......

Does this police "cleanup" have anyting to do with political nepotism?

DT posted this,"......If they don't get rid of that incompetent bufoon the Chief of Police and his incompetent brother in the national guard then they won't be doing anything.". Do you think this stinks of nepotism is is Cyprus too small an island.

Deniz,

It is a well known fact that public service jobs in Cyprus are not awarded on merit but are dependent on which party membership you hold.

I couldn't care less about the Chief of Police, but if this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, where officers are sacked just because they are not AKEL members, then these officers have every right to be disgruntled. However, they did go overboard by attacking innocent Omonia fans.

I simply asked whether this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, and I was not condoning the violence. Nepotism exists in all countries, however in Cyprus it is rampant.

I do agree with you but the fact that Cyprus is such a 'relatively small' island, as pointed out by others, where evrybody knows everybody else, people are easily targeted as being party to nepotism.

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

Its one of the things about Cyprus I never understand.
My cousin was a good teacher. Over years she progressed and became the principal of the school she spent years at. 5 years ago, I visited Cyprus and found her at home and asked "why are you at home?". She accused me of being ignorant (In a friendly way). She said, "did you not know there was an election?'. I said "ofcourse I did". Her answer was, "WELL, MY PARTY LOST". All this time I thought it was a TC thing. Obviously not.

[iceman]

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

Same situation with CTP in the north.(must be a Cypriot thing)

[iceman]

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

Same situation with CTP in the north.(must be a Cypriot thing)

Mind you,i must point out this was always the case with previous UBP & DP governments also.
Holding important government positions is one way of accumulating and securing votes for next election.
Likewise employing their supporters or their families for government jobs is a payback for their support.

Always create a job for the man instead of assigning the right man for the job.

[zan]

I think it stretches to the "EXTENDED" family...

Investigators slam police over support for arrested colleagues
By Alexia Saoulli
DEPUTY Attorney-general Akis Papasavvas yesterday expressed strong criticism of mass Drug Squad support at their colleague’s remand hearing on Thursday.

Papasavvas was referring to the presence of over 100 policemen, mostly Drug Law Enforcement Unit officers, at Sergeant Yiannos Yiannakou’s remand hearing.

“What have we come to? What do we think we can achieve with some actions?” he said.

Papasavvas said he had repeatedly made it clear that the police had an obligation to assist in the criminal investigation of the Kitas incident and not to block it.

The deputy AG said it was unacceptable that so many members of the force had showed up in court and said it was obvious that they had come from other districts. He also questioned how many of them were on duty at the time and whether their presence had been an intimidation tactic.

“What bothered them? What, mustn’t we carry out the criminal investigation? Must the Attorney-general, the deputy Attorney-general, the criminal investigators, or I don’t know who else, be frightened? Well this won’t happen. The criminal investigation will be carried out, honestly, above board and with zeal to get to the truth so as to shed light [on what happened],” he said.

Papasavvas also said it was up to the AG to decide what was legally acceptable or not and that neither he, nor the AG, acted willy-nilly. He was referring to a statement issued by the Police Association and the Senior Police Officers’ Association condemning the publication of the names of the two DLEU officers.

President of the Senior Police Officers’ Association George Tryfonides said he would be taking the matter up with the Data Protection Commissioner and that the two officers had been unequally treated by the media who had dragged their names into the limelight when the same treatment was not applied to other suspects.

Tryfonides also defended the mass court attendance of Yiannakou’s colleagues.

“The DLEU has a very hard difficult job and they work very closely together. It was only to be expected that they would show support for their colleagues. The hearing was open to the public. From the minute anyone can watch the proceedings why should the police be banned from this right?” he said.

Criminal investigator Onisiforos Ioannou said it was unfortunate that Police Chief Iacovos Papacostas and Deputy Police Chief Michalis Papageorgiou had gone to visit DLEU deputy commander Avraam Charalambous in hospital on Thursday.

“I find the visit somewhat unfortunate, without us being formally informed as investigators. Whoever is being held, permission must first be sought from the investigators to see him – whoever that is, not just the Police Chief – and even out of courtesy the Chief should have informed us, without referring to anything else or making any insinuations,” Ioannou said.

The criminal investigator said the visit had not angered him but had saddened him as it “wasn’t right”. He also said the police guarding the suspect should have barred anyone, other than the investigators or people with permission from the investigators, from seeing Charalambous.

The police spokesman’s office last night issued a statement in response to Ioannou’s comments.

It said: “The police chief and deputy police chief’s visit to see the DLEU officer was carried out after first securing permission from the Attorney-general.”

Papageorgiou last night told CyBC television that he was sorry that a “humanitarian visit” had taken on such proportions, adding that obviously the criminal investigator had not been informed by the AG of their visit. He added that they hadn’t even managed to see Charalambous, as he had been undergoing tests at the time. They met with his doctor and left.

Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

[Paphitis]

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

Same situation with CTP in the north.(must be a Cypriot thing)

Looks like GCs and TCs have a lot in common after all.

[kafenes]

Since speaking to a couple of very good GC friends who was at the stadium on Saturday night and went to their homes with loads of bruises that evening,i learned few disturbing facts which is not pronounced elsewhere.

After the game,a large group of Omonia supporters (AKEL members) and some TC's having coffee at the stadium cafeteria waiting for the crowd to disperse outside was attacked by at least one hundred fully equipped riot police and beaten up badly with truncheons.
According to my friends,their excuse was that earlier someone from the Omonia supporters crowd threw a plastic cup of water over a policeman..

Now,if the ROC police is capable of mobilizing large groups of fully kitted riot police in short time,one wonders why they are not taking any action against these thugs attacking innocent civilians at the same spot after every APOEL game.

According to my friends,there are elements within the ROC police force who happen to be under the influence of the right wing opposition parties and they are in a silent war with AKEL administration who is rocking their boat.

Apparently,some time ago AKEL administration has started a "clean up" process within the police force to weed out crooked and politically motivated cops and this is has caused a stir within the force,specially after the arrest of some high ranking cops over Al Capone Kittas case.So,they are trying to show AKEL administration what they are capable of.(politically)

It showed on Sigma Tv , how the police were beating up the supporters .

also showed the breaks and damages have been done to stadium and toilets .

polices were beaten up the boys with white/green t shirts .

I watched the Sigma news very carefully.

It showed the police hitting ONE man, he was wearing a black jacket. (showed this clip over and over).
It showed ONE broken urinal (showed this clip over and over).
It didn't show AT ALL police hitting anyone wearing white/green T-shirts.

I am not saying it didn't happen but that is what Sigma showed.
I hate the way the media blow things up to attract viewers.
I also detest newsreaders who express personal emotions when reading the news.

[humanist]

Miltiades

No we do not support such atrocious behaviour by bloody hooligans. The police ought to find the culprits and prosecute the bastards.

I agree with Miltiades this behaviour is unacceptacle it is patheitic and racist and te ppl responsible ought ot found and sent to gaol for a very long time. I am ashamed to be a Greeks speaking Cypriot right now.

ahristi malakes ....

[Oracle]

Governments and their police officers are always locked in combat until they can serve each other and not the opposition parties. It comes with the territory.

What about the recent arrest of the shadow (opposition) cabinet minister, Damian Green, by "informed" police officers searching his parliamentary offices without warrants ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2008/n ... servatives

The UK Labour party is not so innocent when it comes to using the Police to suit their causes .... Happens everywhere! Needs to be tackled globally ...

[DT.]

Till 2003 it was considered an anathema to appoint an Akelite into a top position, Minister, let us say. Didn't hear you complain then. Just to put things right. DIKO and EDEK have their fair share in different government institutions and this keeps them from leaving government since they do not seem to agree with the way Christofias is handling the talks and the Cyprob in general.

Never said any different. Deko is notorious for this kind of behavour. Why do you think that if a previous govt did it then its allright for this one to do it?

Seems to be contrary with the arguments you use for the cyprob.