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[zan]

Of course nobody would advocate such conduct (look how patient we have been for so long) ... it is only mindless football hooligans who are easy to provoke, fuelled on by adrenalin from the competitiveness of the stupid game.

However, I for one think Turk-TCs should not be allowed into the free areas - so readily - until they are prepared to relinquish occupation of the north. We have enough reminders of the harm they have caused us without having them parade their "freedom", to come and go, shopping, wining and dining etc., as though everything is hunky-dory .....

The fact is they are as citizens of the island. Once they are allowed, they have the right to be safe in the EU. True or false?

I am not disputing their citizenship, you don't automatically lose such a right no matter the severity of your crime. And yes all wrong-doers still deserve full protection. None of these have been compromised. Incidents like this happen, even in countries where the majority of citizens are not suffering from daily taunts (flag) from the enemy occupants and their accomplices.

Citizenship and safety are truly as assured as can be (despite altercations - which are still far less, than most other European Capitals experience over a weekend!).

I'm thinking it's just possible negotiations may have progressed further, if the TCs weren't so happy and confident that things are moving towards "normality" for them; enjoying full access in this way to all the best of the "west", and then back home again, to their illegally acquired "extras".

Shame the EU did not think like hat when they allowed you into their club...

[DT.]

Of course nobody would advocate such conduct (look how patient we have been for so long) ... it is only mindless football hooligans who are easy to provoke, fuelled on by adrenalin from the competitiveness of the stupid game.

However, I for one think Turk-TCs should not be allowed into the free areas - so readily - until they are prepared to relinquish occupation of the north. We have enough reminders of the harm they have caused us without having them parade their "freedom", to come and go, shopping, wining and dining etc., as though everything is hunky-dory .....

The fact is they are as citizens of the island. Once they are allowed, they have the right to be safe in the EU. True or false?

I am not disputing their citizenship, you don't automatically lose such a right no matter the severity of your crime. And yes all wrong-doers still deserve full protection. None of these have been compromised. Incidents like this happen, even in countries where the majority of citizens are not suffering from daily taunts (flag) from the enemy occupants and their accomplices.

Citizenship and safety are truly as assured as can be (despite altercations - which are still far less, than most other European Capitals experience over a weekend!).

I'm thinking it's just possible negotiations may have progressed further, if the TCs weren't so happy and confident that things are moving towards "normality" for them; enjoying full access in this way to all the best of the "west", and then back home again, to their illegally acquired "extras".

Shame the EU did not think like hat when they allowed you into their club...

Etsi..na se krouzei!!!

[Paphitis]

Of course nobody would advocate such conduct (look how patient we have been for so long) ... it is only mindless football hooligans who are easy to provoke, fuelled on by adrenalin from the competitiveness of the stupid game.

However, I for one think Turk-TCs should not be allowed into the free areas - so readily - until they are prepared to relinquish occupation of the north. We have enough reminders of the harm they have caused us without having them parade their "freedom", to come and go, shopping, wining and dining etc., as though everything is hunky-dory .....

The fact is they are as citizens of the island. Once they are allowed, they have the right to be safe in the EU. True or false?

I am not disputing their citizenship, you don't automatically lose such a right no matter the severity of your crime. And yes all wrong-doers still deserve full protection. None of these have been compromised. Incidents like this happen, even in countries where the majority of citizens are not suffering from daily taunts (flag) from the enemy occupants and their accomplices.

Citizenship and safety are truly as assured as can be (despite altercations - which are still far less, than most other European Capitals experience over a weekend!).

I'm thinking it's just possible negotiations may have progressed further, if the TCs weren't so happy and confident that things are moving towards "normality" for them; enjoying full access in this way to all the best of the "west", and then back home again, to their illegally acquired "extras".

Shame the EU did not think like hat when they allowed you into their club...

Etsi..na se krouzei!!!

[zan]

Of course nobody would advocate such conduct (look how patient we have been for so long) ... it is only mindless football hooligans who are easy to provoke, fuelled on by adrenalin from the competitiveness of the stupid game.

However, I for one think Turk-TCs should not be allowed into the free areas - so readily - until they are prepared to relinquish occupation of the north. We have enough reminders of the harm they have caused us without having them parade their "freedom", to come and go, shopping, wining and dining etc., as though everything is hunky-dory .....

The fact is they are as citizens of the island. Once they are allowed, they have the right to be safe in the EU. True or false?

I am not disputing their citizenship, you don't automatically lose such a right no matter the severity of your crime. And yes all wrong-doers still deserve full protection. None of these have been compromised. Incidents like this happen, even in countries where the majority of citizens are not suffering from daily taunts (flag) from the enemy occupants and their accomplices.

Citizenship and safety are truly as assured as can be (despite altercations - which are still far less, than most other European Capitals experience over a weekend!).

I'm thinking it's just possible negotiations may have progressed further, if the TCs weren't so happy and confident that things are moving towards "normality" for them; enjoying full access in this way to all the best of the "west", and then back home again, to their illegally acquired "extras".

Shame the EU did not think like hat when they allowed you into their club...

Etsi..na se krouzei!!!

Running scared into Greek no DT??

[DT.]

Of course nobody would advocate such conduct (look how patient we have been for so long) ... it is only mindless football hooligans who are easy to provoke, fuelled on by adrenalin from the competitiveness of the stupid game.

However, I for one think Turk-TCs should not be allowed into the free areas - so readily - until they are prepared to relinquish occupation of the north. We have enough reminders of the harm they have caused us without having them parade their "freedom", to come and go, shopping, wining and dining etc., as though everything is hunky-dory .....

The fact is they are as citizens of the island. Once they are allowed, they have the right to be safe in the EU. True or false?

I am not disputing their citizenship, you don't automatically lose such a right no matter the severity of your crime. And yes all wrong-doers still deserve full protection. None of these have been compromised. Incidents like this happen, even in countries where the majority of citizens are not suffering from daily taunts (flag) from the enemy occupants and their accomplices.

Citizenship and safety are truly as assured as can be (despite altercations - which are still far less, than most other European Capitals experience over a weekend!).

I'm thinking it's just possible negotiations may have progressed further, if the TCs weren't so happy and confident that things are moving towards "normality" for them; enjoying full access in this way to all the best of the "west", and then back home again, to their illegally acquired "extras".

Shame the EU did not think like hat when they allowed you into their club...

Etsi..na se krouzei!!!

Running scared into Greek no DT??

sorry mate...couldn't resist it at your expense. Can't explain it in english.

[denizaksulu]

DT Wrote:

I am a little surprised that they only just realised after 6 years in power that the police need a cleanup......

Does this police "cleanup" have anyting to do with political nepotism?

DT posted this,"......If they don't get rid of that incompetent bufoon the Chief of Police and his incompetent brother in the national guard then they won't be doing anything.". Do you think this stinks of nepotism is is Cyprus too small an island.

Deniz,

It is a well known fact that public service jobs in Cyprus are not awarded on merit but are dependent on which party membership you hold.

I couldn't care less about the Chief of Police, but if this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, where officers are sacked just because they are not AKEL members, then these officers have every right to be disgruntled. However, they did go overboard by attacking innocent Omonia fans.

I simply asked whether this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, and I was not condoning the violence. Nepotism exists in all countries, however in Cyprus it is rampant.

I do agree with you but the fact that Cyprus is such a 'relatively small' island, as pointed out by others, where evrybody knows everybody else, people are easily targeted as being party to nepotism.

[DT.]

DT Wrote:

I am a little surprised that they only just realised after 6 years in power that the police need a cleanup......

Does this police "cleanup" have anyting to do with political nepotism?

DT posted this,"......If they don't get rid of that incompetent bufoon the Chief of Police and his incompetent brother in the national guard then they won't be doing anything.". Do you think this stinks of nepotism is is Cyprus too small an island.

Deniz,

It is a well known fact that public service jobs in Cyprus are not awarded on merit but are dependent on which party membership you hold.

I couldn't care less about the Chief of Police, but if this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, where officers are sacked just because they are not AKEL members, then these officers have every right to be disgruntled. However, they did go overboard by attacking innocent Omonia fans.

I simply asked whether this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, and I was not condoning the violence. Nepotism exists in all countries, however in Cyprus it is rampant.

I do agree with you but the fact that Cyprus is such a 'relatively small' island, as pointed out by others, where evrybody knows everybody else, people are easily targeted as being party to nepotism.

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

[CBBB]

DT Wrote:

I am a little surprised that they only just realised after 6 years in power that the police need a cleanup......

Does this police "cleanup" have anyting to do with political nepotism?

DT posted this,"......If they don't get rid of that incompetent bufoon the Chief of Police and his incompetent brother in the national guard then they won't be doing anything.". Do you think this stinks of nepotism is is Cyprus too small an island.

Deniz,

It is a well known fact that public service jobs in Cyprus are not awarded on merit but are dependent on which party membership you hold.

I couldn't care less about the Chief of Police, but if this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, where officers are sacked just because they are not AKEL members, then these officers have every right to be disgruntled. However, they did go overboard by attacking innocent Omonia fans.

I simply asked whether this "cleanup" has anything to do with nepotism, and I was not condoning the violence. Nepotism exists in all countries, however in Cyprus it is rampant.

I do agree with you but the fact that Cyprus is such a 'relatively small' island, as pointed out by others, where evrybody knows everybody else, people are easily targeted as being party to nepotism.

Since AKEL took power, if you don't belong to the party you will not get any of the new govt positions. Simple as that.

This is not a new phenomena DT. DISY and DIKO were just as bad, and what about what they get upto just before an election?

[Bananiot]

Till 2003 it was considered an anathema to appoint an Akelite into a top position, Minister, let us say. Didn't hear you complain then. Just to put things right. DIKO and EDEK have their fair share in different government institutions and this keeps them from leaving government since they do not seem to agree with the way Christofias is handling the talks and the Cyprob in general.

[zan]

Were the attacks a family affair as well??/