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Postby Murtaza » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:13 pm

Leon wrote:Oh my God, garbitsch, chill will you :!: I never said I had the right to say who is Cypriot and who isn't, so please, will you just shut up :!: Whoever the Ottomans invaded Cyprus from, they were so evil to the Greeks. Ethnically cleansed them, kidnapped their babies and forced them to return to shoot their own people, closed down schools, murdering them etc. When my Greek teacher's mother was a young girl, her and her family were forced to live in Constantinople. I'm sorry but you can't act as though it was nothing just because it was so many years ago, I'm sorry but that's so lame and sad. Do you think Jews should shake hands with the German soldiers that tortured them and murdered their families just because it was a long time ago :?: I don't think the Turks of Cyprus deserved what they got, but it was coming to them, and although it wasn't them themselves (it was their ancestors), they were (and still are!) there illegally. If I was a Greek or Cypriot of that time I think I'd react just the same.

Leon.



So ask them if they prefer ottoman attack or not?
do they prefer venedics?

"Ethnically cleansed them, kidnapped their babies and forced them to return to shoot their own people, closed down schools, murdering them etc. When my Greek teacher's mother was a young girl, her and her family were forced to live in Constantinople. "

I dont understand none of this.
As I remember when the ottomans attacked cyprus, Greeks are serfs.
And ottoman give them their freedom, give them their land, give them their religious freedom and let them rule themself (Partially)
I dont understand what ottomans should do also.
Give them anatolia also?

Maybe you should read some history book, insteaded of listening your mad greek teacher.
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Postby Main_Source » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:35 pm

How about not steal children from families, to serve as Janiseries.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:37 pm

Main_Source wrote:How about not steal children from families, to serve as Janiseries.


steal?
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Postby garbitsch » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:33 pm

Leon wrote:Oh my God, garbitsch, chill will you :!: I never said I had the right to say who is Cypriot and who isn't, so please, will you just shut up :!: Whoever the Ottomans invaded Cyprus from, they were so evil to the Greeks. Ethnically cleansed them, kidnapped their babies and forced them to return to shoot their own people, closed down schools, murdering them etc. When my Greek teacher's mother was a young girl, her and her family were forced to live in Constantinople. I'm sorry but you can't act as though it was nothing just because it was so many years ago, I'm sorry but that's so lame and sad. Do you think Jews should shake hands with the German soldiers that tortured them and murdered their families just because it was a long time ago :?: I don't think the Turks of Cyprus deserved what they got, but it was coming to them, and although it wasn't them themselves (it was their ancestors), they were (and still are!) there illegally. If I was a Greek or Cypriot of that time I think I'd react just the same.

Leon.


Go wank yourself, cause you are inmature pathetic young boy... Nobody should be blamed for what their ancestors did, besides nobody closed the Greek schools. Just read a little Cyprus history... So, you are saying Germany should be left all alone, should not be respected because what Nazis did? So only Turks were nasty, but not others? You are inhumane idiot. Get the hell out of here. You got F and you failed the life course.
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Postby Murtaza » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:34 pm

garbitsch wrote:
Leon wrote:Oh my God, garbitsch, chill will you :!: I never said I had the right to say who is Cypriot and who isn't, so please, will you just shut up :!: Whoever the Ottomans invaded Cyprus from, they were so evil to the Greeks. Ethnically cleansed them, kidnapped their babies and forced them to return to shoot their own people, closed down schools, murdering them etc. When my Greek teacher's mother was a young girl, her and her family were forced to live in Constantinople. I'm sorry but you can't act as though it was nothing just because it was so many years ago, I'm sorry but that's so lame and sad. Do you think Jews should shake hands with the German soldiers that tortured them and murdered their families just because it was a long time ago :?: I don't think the Turks of Cyprus deserved what they got, but it was coming to them, and although it wasn't them themselves (it was their ancestors), they were (and still are!) there illegally. If I was a Greek or Cypriot of that time I think I'd react just the same.

Leon.


Go wank yourself, cause you are inmature pathetic young boy... Nobody should be blamed for what their ancestors did, besides nobody closed the Greek schools. Just read a little Cyprus history... So, you are saying Germany should be left all alone, should not be respected because what Nazis did? So only Turks were nasty, but not others? You are inhumane idiot. Get the hell out of here. You got F and you failed the life course.


garbitsch It is not his guilt but his mad teacher be calm:)
He is just a child.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:34 pm

garbitsch wrote:Go wank yourself, cause you are inmature pathetic young boy... Nobody should be blamed for what their ancestors did, besides nobody closed the Greek schools. Just read a little Cyprus history... So, you are saying Germany should be left all alone, should not be respected because what Nazis did? So only Turks were nasty, but not others? You are inhumane idiot. Get the hell out of here. You got F and you failed the life course.


he's right. you could have at least tried to cheat mate.
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Postby garbitsch » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:40 pm

No I won't calm down. I shit on the parents who had raised such idiots. These people think they get credit when they talk in that way. So my ancestors conquered Cyprus 500 years ago, my ancestors have been living in Cyprus for 500 years ago, and this inhumane creature comes and says "you have no right to call yourself Cypriot". Of course I become mad!!! He portrays Turks as barbarians, and I am quite sure that throughout the history of mankind, he thinks ONLY Turks had invaded Cyprus and "killed" people, closed their schools bla bla bla. So what? He waited for a democratic rule in Cyprus 500 years ago?
Seriously I will continue to behave in this way until he shuts his mouth or acknowledges the truth that Turks are Cypriots just like Greeks.
Murti, I think his teacher is Cicciolina! hahahaha

Magik , I think your reply was to Murtaza not me. Because I couldn't establish any link between my post and your cheating thing :wink:
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Postby tcklim » Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:47 am

Unfortunately this is the kinda crap that kids are being brought up with ...... and the new generation is unlikely to be kind to the Turks whilst this kinda crap is being handed down from the parents....

Leon, stuff a sock in your Greek teachers mouth and open your mind.... you're wasting too much energy hating, it can be put to much better use to actually use it to make friends....

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Postby Piratis » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:11 am

Unfortunately this is the kinda crap that kids are being brought up with ...... and the new generation is unlikely to be kind to the Turks whilst this kinda crap is being handed down from the parents....


We don't need to be taught anything. We can see with our oun eyes that there is an army occupying our homes and if we try to get them back they will either kill us or sent us to jail.
Why should we love these people when they violate our most basic human rights on a daily basis????
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Postby tcklim » Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:27 am

Piratis wrote:
We don't need to be taught anything. We can see with our oun eyes that there is an army occupying our homes and if we try to get them back they will either kill us or sent us to jail.
Why should we love these people when they violate our most basic human rights on a daily basis????


Depends how you try to get them back..... if you march over to the North with a shotgun and demand they give it back to you.... then more likely than not, yes you will get hurt. As will a TC trying to reclaim their property in the South properly won't be met with open arms no?

However, if you have constructive dialog with the North and negotiate a settlement that will be just and fair for both communities, then both sides rights will be restored no?

Now really, isn't that a better solution? It definetely has more of a chance of working than the path you seem to suggest should be taken....
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