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[Main_Source]

I dont think in those days there was a real distinction between Greek and Cypriot. Otherwise, they would be putting a regional name everytime they said Greek - something. Remember, there was no country of Greece when the Ottomans invaded but their were Greek people all over the regions of what is now Greece and Turkey.

[demetriou_74]

how from cyprus did u get 2 star wars. neway i wana say that turks can live where ever they like as long as it is not in cyprus. also how do u put a image on as part of your post?

[Main_Source]

Star Wars huh

[Murtaza]

Yeah I thought that the invasion was over 400 years ago and someone told me it was 300 years .

It doesn't matter, garbitsch. You can't say "Oh, I'm a Cypriot" just because your ancestors that invaded did it so many years ago. You can't forget about just due to the amount of years ago it is. No offence, mate, but you don't deserve to be called a Cypriot, even though (I'm guessing) that it wasn't you yourself that invaded or caused wars.

I hate the words 'Greek-Cypriot', 'Turkish-Cypriot' and 'TRNC'. As far as I'm concerned the Greek-speakers of Cyprus are Cypriot, the Turkish-speakers are Turks, and the occupied area of Cyprus is north Cyprus.

As I remember Greeks also conquered that land.
And when Ottoman attacked that land, There were not greeks but venedic.

Hmm So denktas is right.
Only Cypriots are Donkeys.

We all came from Adem and Eva. Be calm body.

Teacher That is Main problem.
I think Education in Greece is realy err intresting.

[tcklim]

Why are you all fighting over who conquered what 500 years ago? Going into that logic we can start a whole other debate into the right of Israel to exist as a country... considering they basically invaded Palestinian land and are even now still occupying them.

Will a settlement every be reached whereby all Isrealis will be outta there? No! You have to accept the reality of the situation my friends. Yes Turkey did invade, as did the Romans conquers goodness knows how many countries, as the Israelis did, as the Germans did .....

In the end, it boils down to the fact that there does exist a group called Turkish-Cypriots, but the fact that the Greek Cypriots simply refuse to acknowledge them as Cypriots means there will never be a single Cypriot Nationality (is that confusing?) ..... don't forget that the two communities were fighting before the invasion .... The hate that I hear spewing from the Greek side against Turks all the time simply means that a great deal of Greek Cypriots have in their minds a Cyprus without Turkish-Cypriots. To be honest, with all this hatred flying around, I cannot fathom how after being reunited the 2 communities expect to get along. They won't.

I really get frustrated with the short-sightedness of the Greek Cypriots sometimes who just refuse to accept the situation for what it is. Both sides have killed people from the other side. Honestly, division seems to be the best bet... and if not, definetely a two-state solution... because a completely united Cyprus just doesn't seem to be possible at the moment. How about starting off with a 2-state system then seeing how that goes? No? Because everyone is gonna start swearing about the Turks again....

I've visited the North and they are really friendly with Greek Cypriots, and I've seen Greek Cypriots trying to talk to the Turkish Cypriots and mend ties and I respect them very much..... As for these ultra-nationalist people spewing hatred and racism all over the place, it just wasting everybodys time and energy... take a chill pill..

I am not a Turkish Cypriot (the "tck" in my name refers to "Third Culture Kid"), nor am I a Greek Cypriot technically, but I have lived in the Greek side for over 18 years.....

Just my point of view....

Peace

[garbitsch]

It's so surprising that no other forum users (e.g. Main Source, Piratis, Kifeas, Mic, Magik, Alex) had come up with a counter argument that Turks of Cyprus are Cypriots aswell...

"garbitsch, I'm not arguing -- just debating!

I'm not being rude, but how do people who invaded Cyprus and Greece years and years ago, closed down Greek and Cypriot schools, kidnapped Greek and Cypriot babies so they could be brought up in Turkey and return to murder their real families deserve to be called Cypriot It's wrong, and if you fail to accept that, then God knows what the other Turks in Cyprus think.

Leon."

These are piece of lie and propaganda. Have you ever read any history of Cyprus??? Ottomans did not take Cyprus from Greeks. It was a Venetian soil, when Ottomans conquered. The Greek Orthodox Church was allowed to operate after years of censure. No body forced to kill their parents. What a lie! I am not saying Ottomans were perfect rules, but it was 500 years ago God damn you. Who fukin gave you the right to judge Turkish Cypriots for the events happened 500 years ago? What the fukin mentality is this? Who are you and who gave you the right to decide who should be called Cypriot and who should not? Where are other forum users?

[brother]

Garb dude,

Leon is only a 14 year old boy, take it easy i am sure you can teach him the truth without getting soooo upset.

[garbitsch]

You are right. But still a 14 year old boy has enough intelligence to read and analyse. This boy is just a good empirical example for the course named "Politics and Propaganda", which I have taken last year.

[Michael Coumas]

Gentlemen please!!!
tcklim has a point as does everybody else. I am not too sure that the profanities are necessary but point taken.
It seems once again that that propaganda has been forced down young throats resulting in the same old regurgitated arguments surfacing.
We must agree that Cypriots are Cypriots no matter what their ethnic origins and that Cypriots are also human beings. It is no coincidence that many differences of opinion are resolved and concluded by listening to the other sides perceptions and concerns.
My origins are in the North of the Island in fact bordered by the perimiter of the ring on the map early on. There is an old lady living there now, I would love to be there but I am aware that time moves on and although I will live in hope I, like the rest of us, will die one day. Lets hope the next generation is not as poisoned as this.

[Leon]

Oh my God, garbitsch, chill will you I never said I had the right to say who is Cypriot and who isn't, so please, will you just shut up Whoever the Ottomans invaded Cyprus from, they were so evil to the Greeks. Ethnically cleansed them, kidnapped their babies and forced them to return to shoot their own people, closed down schools, murdering them etc. When my Greek teacher's mother was a young girl, her and her family were forced to live in Constantinople. I'm sorry but you can't act as though it was nothing just because it was so many years ago, I'm sorry but that's so lame and sad. Do you think Jews should shake hands with the German soldiers that tortured them and murdered their families just because it was a long time ago I don't think the Turks of Cyprus deserved what they got, but it was coming to them, and although it wasn't them themselves (it was their ancestors), they were (and still are!) there illegally. If I was a Greek or Cypriot of that time I think I'd react just the same.

Leon.