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[Cem]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

[Kikapu]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

When you want to print quotes out of context, then you better print the whole 2-way conversation, otherwise you will look like a fool.

Lets take what Kifeas said in his remarks. First of all, he was being sarcastic, because "Doesntmatter" made the claim that the GC stole Turkish words "Doner Kebab" as I remember, and Kifeas's remarks were to make him look foolish, because on the number of words the Turks have "stolen" from the Greek Language. I hope you now get what Kifeas had said, even though this conversation took place few weeks ago.!

Don't try to be cute, Cem, with such cheap stunts.!

[runaway]

Even Turkey enters the contest with English songs you fools, because they do not stand a chance otherwise. What the hell is their excuse.!

Not everything is political, as you two want to make it, just to justify your partition dreams. In Cyprus, if a Greek song is sung and it is understood by 800,000 GC's, and a Turkish song is sung and is understood by 200,000 TC's, which singer has the advantage of going forward to become the finalist. This is not a rocket science, so lets hear it from you two.

Now, if both the performers sung in English, they will both have equal number of listeners and the TC will have just as much chance of winning as the GC singer, because the best song will win. In any case, English is one of the official languages of Cyprus. Perhaps you two did not know that.!

I don't even like the whole concept of this event. Personally, I wished that every nation was forced to sing in their national language, but then again, Switzerland would have 4 languages and Cyprus would have 3, which would make it a problem.!

GCs would never choose a TC to represent them regardless of the language u fool. If singing in English and Greek were prohibited, they would never ever choose Turkish either.

I wonder if u ve ever met a GC in ur life. u r a second-class minority for them. Grow up and see the realities. Thank god majority isn't as blind as u. u ve turned into a GTC.

Did the GC's not invite the TC's to play football with them nationally and internationally, despite while we are still holding their land. Who refused so Far.?

If you have such negativity towards your fellow countrymen, why on earth is Talat negotiating a peace deal with them.? Why does he not ask for a partition by giving 50% of the north back to the south and then you can have complete control of the north to have any kind of life you want. But no, you will not do that, because you want to hold onto the land that does not belong to you. You people believe that the past cannot be forgiven and new beginning given a chance. You are all wrong of course, because all the countries that were on the wrong side of the WWI and WWII and other major conflicts in the world have put aside their differences and have moved on. Is there any reason why Cypriots cannot do the same.? Perhaps you just don't want to and that is your choice, but your choice so far has been a disaster for the TC's.

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

How do you know?

coz u have an allergy to anything Turkish.
coz I know from experience.
coz you u think u r the only representatives of the island

To avoid GC domination, Eurovision representation should be rotating like in Belgium or Siwtzerland. Even Italian speaking community in Switzerland has the right to repsesent their country when it s their turn. I am sorry but u ll have to recognize the Turkish Cypriot TV in case of unification.

Why do you think you know GC's better than I do? What experience are you talking about? How old are you? We are the only representatives on this island at the moments because we are the legitimate govt of this island. After a solution what will be your excuse?

I've never heard of a rotating ESC representation in Belgium or in Suisse....could you please show me some proof of this as it is very interesting.

Eurovision selection process in Belgium:

Belgium has a special selection process. There are two broadcasters in Belgium, VRT and RTBF, who choose a candidate in turn. Before 1999, every song was either in Dutch or French, except for 1977, when they sang in English. Belgium has never participated in their third national language: German.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgium_in ... ng_Contest

recognition for TC TV !

[Paphitis]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

When you want to print quotes out of context, then you better print the whole 2-way conversation, otherwise you will look like a fool.

Lets take what Kifeas said in his remarks. First of all, he was being sarcastic, because "Doesntmatter" made the claim that the GC stole Turkish words "Doner Kebab" as I remember, and Kifeas's remarks were to make him look foolish, because on the number of words the Turks have "stolen" from the Greek Language. I hope you now get what Kifeas had said, even though this conversation took place few weeks ago.!

Don't try to be cute, Cem, with such cheap stunts.!

Good evening Kikapu,

Cem has also managed to quote me out of context.

He quoted me saying this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish..Who could blame us?

Please note that he skillfully removed my smiley in order to make it look like a racist slur.

My actual comment was this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish..

Who could blame us?

Furthermore, when you read the entire thread you will notice that the comment was just a light hearted banter.

Here is the entire thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=110

As you say, Cem is just trying to be cute and does not like it when he receives a good dosage of his own medicine, even if it is only a humorous banter....

You will also notice that Iceman and I exchanged some insults in that thread, albeit jokingly. There was absolutely no offence taken by either of us. But this does not stop Cem quoting out of context.

[Kikapu]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

When you want to print quotes out of context, then you better print the whole 2-way conversation, otherwise you will look like a fool.

Lets take what Kifeas said in his remarks. First of all, he was being sarcastic, because "Doesntmatter" made the claim that the GC stole Turkish words "Doner Kebab" as I remember, and Kifeas's remarks were to make him look foolish, because on the number of words the Turks have "stolen" from the Greek Language. I hope you now get what Kifeas had said, even though this conversation took place few weeks ago.!

Don't try to be cute, Cem, with such cheap stunts.!

Good evening Kikapu,

Cem has also managed to also quote me out of context.

He quoted me saying this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. [/size]Who could blame us?

Please note that he skillfully removed my smiley in order to make it look like a racist slur.

My actual comment was this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish..

Who could blame us?

Furthermore, when you read the entire thread you will notice that the comment was just a light hearted banter.

Here is the entire thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=110

As you say, Cem is just trying to be cute and does not like it when he receives a good dosage of his own medicine, even if it is only a humorous banter....

I hate seeing those who dropped out of Propaganda schools just because they lacked the aptitude to be good at it, and now they are trying their cheap tricks on the forum.!

[runaway]

Even Turkey enters the contest with English songs you fools, because they do not stand a chance otherwise. What the hell is their excuse.!

Not everything is political, as you two want to make it, just to justify your partition dreams. In Cyprus, if a Greek song is sung and it is understood by 800,000 GC's, and a Turkish song is sung and is understood by 200,000 TC's, which singer has the advantage of going forward to become the finalist. This is not a rocket science, so lets hear it from you two.

Now, if both the performers sung in English, they will both have equal number of listeners and the TC will have just as much chance of winning as the GC singer, because the best song will win. In any case, English is one of the official languages of Cyprus. Perhaps you two did not know that.!

I don't even like the whole concept of this event. Personally, I wished that every nation was forced to sing in their national language, but then again, Switzerland would have 4 languages and Cyprus would have 3, which would make it a problem.!

GCs would never choose a TC to represent them regardless of the language u fool. If singing in English and Greek were prohibited, they would never ever choose Turkish either.

I wonder if u ve ever met a GC in ur life. u r a second-class minority for them. Grow up and see the realities. Thank god majority isn't as blind as u. u ve turned into a GTC.

Did the GC's not invite the TC's to play football with them nationally and internationally, despite while we are still holding their land. Who refused so Far.?

If you have such negativity towards your fellow countrymen, why on earth is Talat negotiating a peace deal with them.? Why does he not ask for a partition by giving 50% of the north back to the south and then you can have complete control of the north to have any kind of life you want. But no, you will not do that, because you want to hold onto the land that does not belong to you. You people believe that the past cannot be forgiven and new beginning given a chance. You are all wrong of course, because all the countries that were on the wrong side of the WWI and WWII and other major conflicts in the world have put aside their differences and have moved on. Is there any reason why Cypriots cannot do the same.? Perhaps you just don't want to and that is your choice, but your choice so far has been a disaster for the TC's.

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

How do you know?

coz u have an allergy to anything Turkish.
coz I know from experience.
coz you u think u r the only representatives of the island

To avoid GC domination, Eurovision representation should be rotating like in Belgium or Siwtzerland. Even Italian speaking community in Switzerland has the right to repsesent their country when it s their turn. I am sorry but u ll have to recognize the Turkish Cypriot TV in case of unification.

Why do you think you know GC's better than I do? What experience are you talking about? How old are you? We are the only representatives on this island at the moments because we are the legitimate govt of this island. After a solution what will be your excuse?

I've never heard of a rotating ESC representation in Belgium or in Suisse....could you please show me some proof of this as it is very interesting.

So far, the only songs I've heard sung in the ESC representing Switzerland has been in English. Besides, all 4 ethnic groups in Switzerland see themselves only as Swiss and nothing else. We Cypriots can learn something from them and stop trying to divide Cyprus along ethnic lines. This is the intent of the NeoPartitionist.

u r wrong as always my dear:

Switzerland competed in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 with the song "Era stupendo" by Paolo Meneguzzi. Meneguzzi was chosen by the Swiss national broadcaster, SRG SSR idée suisse, 2008- italian

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1994 Duilio Sto pregando ITA
1996 Kathy Leander Mon coeur l'aime FRA
1997 Barbara Berta Dentro di me ITA
1998 Gunvor Lass'ihn GER
2000 Jane Bogaert La vita cos'è? ITA
2002 Francine Jordi Dans le jardin de mon âme FRA
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EBU (European Broadcasting Union) members:
http://www.ebu.ch/en/ebu_members/actives/index.php

Belgium: RTBF, VRT
Switzerland: SRG SSR The parent company comprises seven Enterprise Units: Schweizer Fernsehen (SF), Schweizer Radio DRS (SR DRS), Télévision Suisse Romande (TSR), Radio Suisse Romande (RSR), Radiotelevisione svizzera di lingua italiana (RTSI), Radio e Televisiun Rumantscha (RTR) and Swissinfo.

[runaway]

Following the examples of Belgium and Switzerland, Bayrak TV should become a full member of EBU and represent "Cyprus" in ESC in rotation with GC TV. This is what I call democratic representation.

[Paphitis]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

When you want to print quotes out of context, then you better print the whole 2-way conversation, otherwise you will look like a fool.

Lets take what Kifeas said in his remarks. First of all, he was being sarcastic, because "Doesntmatter" made the claim that the GC stole Turkish words "Doner Kebab" as I remember, and Kifeas's remarks were to make him look foolish, because on the number of words the Turks have "stolen" from the Greek Language. I hope you now get what Kifeas had said, even though this conversation took place few weeks ago.!

Don't try to be cute, Cem, with such cheap stunts.!

Good evening Kikapu,

Cem has also managed to also quote me out of context.

He quoted me saying this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. [/size]Who could blame us?

Please note that he skillfully removed my smiley in order to make it look like a racist slur.

My actual comment was this:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish..

Who could blame us?

Furthermore, when you read the entire thread you will notice that the comment was just a light hearted banter.

Here is the entire thread:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=110

As you say, Cem is just trying to be cute and does not like it when he receives a good dosage of his own medicine, even if it is only a humorous banter....

I hate seeing those who dropped out of Propaganda schools just because they lacked the aptitude to be good at it, and now they are trying their cheap tricks on the forum.!

It is rather pitiful, isn't it?

Unfortunately, Cem is getting a little hot under the collar. He appears to be a desperate and defeated forumer with some psychological disorder which has manifested itself from him flunking Propaganda School and being defeated in debate by almost everyone here on CF. He does have a very thin skin and should consider not posting in Cyprus problem for the sake of his own mental well-being... I am very concerned for Cem.

[Kikapu]

Even Turkey enters the contest with English songs you fools, because they do not stand a chance otherwise. What the hell is their excuse.!

Not everything is political, as you two want to make it, just to justify your partition dreams. In Cyprus, if a Greek song is sung and it is understood by 800,000 GC's, and a Turkish song is sung and is understood by 200,000 TC's, which singer has the advantage of going forward to become the finalist. This is not a rocket science, so lets hear it from you two.

Now, if both the performers sung in English, they will both have equal number of listeners and the TC will have just as much chance of winning as the GC singer, because the best song will win. In any case, English is one of the official languages of Cyprus. Perhaps you two did not know that.!

I don't even like the whole concept of this event. Personally, I wished that every nation was forced to sing in their national language, but then again, Switzerland would have 4 languages and Cyprus would have 3, which would make it a problem.!

GCs would never choose a TC to represent them regardless of the language u fool. If singing in English and Greek were prohibited, they would never ever choose Turkish either.

I wonder if u ve ever met a GC in ur life. u r a second-class minority for them. Grow up and see the realities. Thank god majority isn't as blind as u. u ve turned into a GTC.

Did the GC's not invite the TC's to play football with them nationally and internationally, despite while we are still holding their land. Who refused so Far.?

If you have such negativity towards your fellow countrymen, why on earth is Talat negotiating a peace deal with them.? Why does he not ask for a partition by giving 50% of the north back to the south and then you can have complete control of the north to have any kind of life you want. But no, you will not do that, because you want to hold onto the land that does not belong to you. You people believe that the past cannot be forgiven and new beginning given a chance. You are all wrong of course, because all the countries that were on the wrong side of the WWI and WWII and other major conflicts in the world have put aside their differences and have moved on. Is there any reason why Cypriots cannot do the same.? Perhaps you just don't want to and that is your choice, but your choice so far has been a disaster for the TC's.

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

How do you know?

coz u have an allergy to anything Turkish.
coz I know from experience.
coz you u think u r the only representatives of the island

To avoid GC domination, Eurovision representation should be rotating like in Belgium or Siwtzerland. Even Italian speaking community in Switzerland has the right to repsesent their country when it s their turn. I am sorry but u ll have to recognize the Turkish Cypriot TV in case of unification.

Why do you think you know GC's better than I do? What experience are you talking about? How old are you? We are the only representatives on this island at the moments because we are the legitimate govt of this island. After a solution what will be your excuse?

I've never heard of a rotating ESC representation in Belgium or in Suisse....could you please show me some proof of this as it is very interesting.

So far, the only songs I've heard sung in the ESC representing Switzerland has been in English. Besides, all 4 ethnic groups in Switzerland see themselves only as Swiss and nothing else. We Cypriots can learn something from them and stop trying to divide Cyprus along ethnic lines. This is the intent of the NeoPartitionist.

u r wrong as always my dear:

Switzerland competed in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 with the song "Era stupendo" by Paolo Meneguzzi. Meneguzzi was chosen by the Swiss national broadcaster, SRG SSR idée suisse, 2008- italian

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1994 Duilio Sto pregando ITA
1996 Kathy Leander Mon coeur l'aime FRA
1997 Barbara Berta Dentro di me ITA
1998 Gunvor Lass'ihn GER
2000 Jane Bogaert La vita cos'è? ITA
2002 Francine Jordi Dans le jardin de mon âme FRA
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EBU (European Broadcasting Union) members:
http://www.ebu.ch/en/ebu_members/actives/index.php

Belgium: RTBF, VRT
Switzerland: SRG SSR The parent company comprises seven Enterprise Units: Schweizer Fernsehen (SF), Schweizer Radio DRS (SR DRS), Télévision Suisse Romande (TSR), Radio Suisse Romande (RSR), Radiotelevisione svizzera di lingua italiana (RTSI), Radio e Televisiun Rumantscha (RTR) and Swissinfo.

6 songs that were non English since 1994 according to your figures and only English since 2002.

I really do rest my case now.!

What is more interesting, that the Swiss Gemans being the majority at 69%, only had 1 song in German in 1998 and non since. Everyone knows, unless you sing in English, you do not stand too much chance winning this meaningless competition.!

[Tim Drayton]

u r totally out of topic baby. the question is will GCs ever choose a song in Turkish which is an oficial language of the island or a TC singer who is an official citizen of the island to represent them in Eurovision. The answer is a big OXI.

I don't think so. This is exactly what we are talking about...TRUST, so the fact that the TC's are invited to play football by the GC's, blows your theory on this stupid and worthless Eurovision Song Contest out of the water..................Next case please.! :

Check for yourself:

We like to use vulgar Turkish words, because we tend to associate vulgarity and bad experiences as synonymous with everything Turkish.. Who could blame us?

How ungrateful these Turks are! After Greeks gave them so many words to satisfy their brain needs, they complain that the Greeks have stolen a few words to satisfy their stomach needs.

These are some of the words the Greeks gave the Turks:
Ekonomi, matematik, geometri, trigonometri, psikoloji, astronomi, astroloji, kozmos, politika, demokrasi, otokrasi, otoriter, filozofi, ideoloji, teokrasi, teoloji, antropoloji, biyoloji, kimya, fizik, antagonizm, strateji, taktik, planet, jimnastik, pedoloji, ansiklopedi, kibernetik, sibernetik, organizasyon, sistem, organizma, laik, etc, etc..

And these are some of the words the Turks gave the Greeks, for which they complain about:
Dolma, burek, şeftali, kebap, yoğurt, kasap, pezevenk, kavgacı, kabadayı, haşhaş, siktir, etc..

I hope you you are mature enough to grasp the utter hostility and contempt in the these posts for my native language .

To think that we are supposed to live in peaceful coexistence with this lot !
What an empty dream !

Cem,

One could just as easily pluck examples out of the air to 'prove' the exact opposite. There is a Turkish singer called Candan Erçetin who sings in Turkish and Greek; here is an example of her singing in Greek:

http://www.turania.com/showthread.php?p=54187

If you look at the second post in the following thread:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/traky ... 2237644699

the poster (a Turkish Turk) has the following to say about Candan Erçetin:

Türkçe şarkıları iğrenç rum dilinde söylüyor sonra da Atatürkçüyüm(!) diyor.

She sings Turkish songs in the disgusting Greek language and then says that she is a follower of Ataturk (!).

There are stereotypes and prejudices on both sides, and not only in Cyprus - in fact, I doubt if a Turkish Cypriot would ever make such a comment. Surely it is more important to debate how these barriers can be broken than simply to point to their existence.