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As far as I am concerned anybody can take the Eurovision Song Contest and stick it up doesntknowwhatthepainis' arse!

[denizaksulu]

Certainly not. I like to retain my right to vote for the best singer. Unlike our Greek and GC friends.

What, so if we pander to zan and VP, you are going to start complaining?

Justice is due, where justice is due.........

New lease of life Deniz?

NO!!

But I dont criticise for the sake of it. I criticise because I will have something to criticise.

[zan]

Certainly not. I like to retain my right to vote for the best singer. Unlike our Greek and GC friends.

What, so if we pander to zan and VP, you are going to start complaining?

Justice is due, where justice is due.........

New lease of life Deniz?

NO!!

But I dont criticise for the sake of it. I criticise because I will have something to criticise.

Don't get over enthusiastic like the rest of us will you!

[denizaksulu]

Certainly not. I like to retain my right to vote for the best singer. Unlike our Greek and GC friends.

What, so if we pander to zan and VP, you are going to start complaining?

Justice is due, where justice is due.........

New lease of life Deniz?

NO!!

But I dont criticise for the sake of it. I criticise because I will have something to criticise.

Don't get over enthusiastic like the rest of us will you!

I never do. I also have my OFF moments.

[Kikapu]

There should be a rule that forbids children from posting on this Forum...

You are a twisted individual Kikapu with the "loose" shit coming out of your mouth....

All your "queries" here have been answered on this Forum and explained but you twist and turn them into your own Turkish and TC hating rhetoric to confuse who....Your self


The result of the voting should tell you and that stubborn fool Miltiades that the TC people will not fall for stupid tricks that undermine our existence....You have your country the "RoC".......Now stick it where the sun don't shine and it might help to stem the flow of verbal diarrhea that seems to be an endless flow out of your mouth.......We will NOT be represented by the illegal regime that took my rights in the CYPRUS REPUBLIC......Simple as that.....If the "RoC" wanted a TC to win the competition to make it look like they really wanted fairness in Cyprus ( as only those corrupt bastards that run the "RoC" can do) then they could have used all those OXI T-Shirts left over from the Annan Plan campaign on the other contestants....But as usual it is more about changing world opinion and double crossing the TC people....The world does not get fooled so easily any more baby......They are wise to what is gong in Cyprus the GC ways.....Only you in your own little world can twist what is to what you would like it to be......Corrupt and vindictive to the TC people...

I am not going to call you a Greek any more...I hope yo really are a TC......I want you to be a TC......That way your self loathing can be complete and I can only hope that you suffer every morning when you look in the mirror and have to shave your Turkish face....ENJOY...........

The only child on this forum is you Zan, as well as the joker, as witnessed by others, specially by the True TC's.!

What is it that you are bad about anyway.? What's the matter, did I tell the truth that you are not use to hearing.? Your whole post was contradictory from one point to the other. Zelis chose to represent her country, which is the RoC, and she did not make it, along with 8 other contestants. What you are pissed off about, that a TC can have the audacity to take part in an event that was held in the south. This is my whole point to VP's post where he is calling 800,000 GC's a RACIST for not choosing Zelis, and since you did not condemn VP's racist remarks, then you must be condoning his remarks, which makes you both RACISTS at the highest order for calling a whole race a RACIST, when only few thousand even voted for anyone. Then you two have even more audacity to call Bananiot a friend and an example GC’s you would want to live with, but he is labelled a RACIST by you two. “If you can’t fuck a friend, who can you fuck”. This is your whole view of the NeoPartitionist. Quite disgusting if you ask me or any other non Fascist NeoPartitionist. You disappoint me Tan. Anyone who needs to look in the mirror and live with themselves are people like you. Cyprus does not need people like you. Quite frankly, I don’t know which place will take people like you.


So, even that her own TC community did not support her, therefore using VP's logic and the standards he has set, then the TC community must also be a "racist" towards her. What's so confusing about that that you do not understand, or is it that you do not have the ability to see things as they are, but you see things in what you invent in your head. Fascism is bad for one's health, Zan, try kicking off the habit and stop living in your make believe world that the "trnc" is anything but illegal entity that has no foundation to be there, and it is these reasons, why Zelis did not participate in representing in this Silly Song event that even for this stupid event, that the "trnc" could not qualify for as a country, so she chose to represent the only country that does exists. What do you want me to do, invent some fantasy writing to paint you a world that is not real. I can do that if you want, as long as you promise to go to bed before 9 pm as nice children do to get enough sleep to have their brains developed and not be on the forum all hours of the night as you tend to do.

....We will NOT be represented by the illegal regime that took my rights in the CYPRUS REPUBLIC......Simple as that.....If the "RoC" wanted a TC to win the competition to make it look like they really wanted fairness in Cyprus ( as only those corrupt bastards that run the "RoC" can do) then they could have used all those OXI T-Shirts left over from the Annan Plan campaign on the other contestants

This above post from you says everything about your twisted mind. You expected the votes to be rigged, so that a TC can win by rigging and not by competing, and you call yourself a TC. I'm very embarrassed for my TC community to have people like you try and speak for them. The message you are sending to the TC's is, "you do not need to do anything to earn your place in Cyprus, because the GC's owes them to you, and if we don't get it, we will just call their whole race a RACIST".!

One more thing while I have gotten your attention, Zan. I have been expecting VP to get his propaganda going no matter how Zelis did, because VP had already told us what was to be expected from him, and I had already seen his plan when he wrote it. This is what VP wrote a while back on this thread.

If the vote is a GC national televote she will go down like a lead balloon and prove my point that they can never show unbiased and select a TC singer confirming that our fears are 101% warranted. The only way to score a few political points is for the singer to be chosen by a panel of judges who will be told to pick her so as to try and show the world GCs represent TCs because the division becomes more and more permenant as the years go by.

If the vote is a GC national televote she will go down like a lead balloon and prove my point that they can never show unbiased and select a TC singer confirming that our fears are 101% warranted.

The only way to score a few political points is for the singer to be chosen by a panel of judges who will be told to pick her so as to try and show the world GCs represent TCs because the division becomes more and more permenant as the years go by.

The above 2 statements by VP, is what is best known as "Heads I win, Tails you lose" game.!

Nice one , VP.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=170

The above is the proof, that whether Zelis won or not in the south, you two were going to throw shit, but thanks to my "Bullshit Propaganda" safety screen, I was able to detect it early and call on it, and just wait for the “Bullshit to hit the fan”, but as always, it has rained all over the Propagandist.........................................AGAIN.!

[Viewpoint]

VP eurovision is not an example if she was crap she was crap. end of story. you can dramatise evrything and look for the negatives but the reality is that she was crap. that is going along with all the other cypriots who participated and were also crap. actually crap is not the right word .... perhaps were not as good as the one to represent Cyprus.

Crap or brilliant she still would not have won because the voting pool is anti TC and racist so we all know she was on a road to nowhere. You still do not understand that being good or bad is not important as the GCs would never allow a TC to win.

Did You vote for her, VP, or were you one of the "racist" who refused to vote for her.!

How many of your "racist" TC friends voted for her.?

The TC community let her down, and you are happy about it.!

The TC's won't even vote for one of their own, but expects others to do.!

That's racist.!

We really didnt understand what was going on, it was all in Greek plus it was not my country this would be like me voting for the French song, the GCs in the south voted not the TRNC. Zelis took your advice and accepted to compete under the "RoC" thinking she was one of you but soon realized she didnt stand a chance in hell even if she was the best singer because the GCs voting pool would never vote for let alone let her win.

Thats why we need safeguards to guarantee we get a look in somewhere along the line, as I stated before the system used by Greece and Turkey might be better for us.

"excuses are like assholes, that everybody has one".!


..............is just that, you have more excuses than most.!

So, VP, you and your "racist" TC community did not support her and are happy that she failed. How pathetic and sad is that.! Had only few thousand bothered to vote for her from your "racist" community, she would have won. You are just not willing to play by the rules and have an open competition. You want everything guaranteed because you think it is owed to you, therefore you do not have to lift a finger to get what you want, and you expect people to actually respect you for that. I very much doubt it. Zelis is not complaining that she lost, because she understands how competitions work, but I'm sure she is very disappointed that her "racist" community did not support her, just because it was in the south. You call it another country, but since there isn't another country in Cyprus, where else did you expect her to compete in for the Eurovision. Is the "trnc" a country.? If so, how come she did not represent the "trnc" in this contest. Perhaps that's why you are upset, that she did not represent the "trnc" and instead chose to sing for another country.! So, VP, who was chosen in the “trnc” to represent that “country” in the upcoming Eurovision contest. Sorry, I couldn’t hear you, what was the name again, please repeat it.!

Tell me something, VP. Had she represented Turkey, would then all the "racist" TC's would have voted for her. Turkey is a foreign country, is it not, so what's the difference. Do you not support Turkey in all sports or other events that takes place around the world. So, supporting a foreign country is not the issue, the issue is your racist attitude, and Zelis poor support from her community has once again exposed you into the open.

Zelis is a Turkish Cypriot, which means the RoC is her country, like it is to all Turkish Cypriots, because the north is part of her territory. To make it even more certain, 80,000 TC's now hold a RoC passports or an ID cards, therefore most of the True TC's in the north are RoC citizens, officially, therefore they consider the RoC as their country. The TC's just did not support her, end of story.! Imagined if only 10% of the TC's supported her, she would have won by a landslide. You have let her down, VP, so shame on you and your "racist" community.! Perhaps they did not support her, because they did not like her song, but they did not support the GC singers either, so that makes the TC community "double racist".!

Then again, perhaps the TC community thought all the singers were rubbish and did not bother to vote, just like the overwhelming majority GC who did not vote for any of the candidates. I have told you that this was a stupid competition that not many people are interested taking part in. Perhaps neither community was "racist" but just plain smart not to promote this No Talent Song Contest.!

Unbelievable you twist and turn saying anything to defend what you can clearly see is the risk you wish to throw TCs into, a siturion where we know we have lost even before we have participated. The imbalance will always guarantee we are losers this is the dominance you want to gift to the GCs whom you know will abuse it at every opportunity, thats why we must be cautious and ask for safeguards such in this case an alternating selection like Greece Turkey and many other countries where the performer is hand picked.

[Viewpoint]

Everyone appears to have concentrated more on the songs than the principle of this issue which is a clear example of what TCs will face in a GC state where the majority of voters are GCs and will never allow a TC to win and represent them. The biased majority showed their true colours by voting for a child who gave a below average performance the Aremenian was much better yet again he was doomed to fail just Zelis from the outset. You are being bloody minded if you cannot see the risks we face, continuing to deny this only shows your own blindness and commitment to creating a GC state where they can dominate and push us to one side.

[Kikapu]

Everyone appears to have concentrated more on the songs than the principle of this issue which is a clear example of what TCs will face in a GC state where the majority of voters are GCs and will never allow a TC to win and represent them. The biased majority showed their true colours by voting for a child who gave a below average performance the Aremenian was much better yet again he was doomed to fail just Zelis from the outset. You are being bloody minded if you cannot see the risks we face, continuing to deny this only shows your own blindness and commitment to creating a GC state where they can dominate and push us to one side.

Yeah but, had you taken part and supported your own TC contestant, she would have won. You did not lift a finger to help her, instead you want it awarded to you, because you want the TC's to remain as a minority and not as a equal citizens to the GC's. But just to help you out, in the final 5 contestants, there should be at least one TC and the remaining 4 can be anywhere from GC to Armenian, Latin and Maronite. This way, all the votes will be split equally, 100% votes divided by 5 = 20% each. If all the TC's vote for a TC singer, the TC's will win every time, since only very few GC's even bothered to vote for this stupid contest this time around, even though you called all 800,000 a RACIST, but I know it means the world to you, so go for the above plan, and you will win every time, even if he/she sings in Turkish, it will not matter, because they will win. I hope I made you happy with this plan.................again.!

[Kikapu]

Everyone appears to have concentrated more on the songs than the principle of this issue which is a clear example of what TCs will face in a GC state where the majority of voters are GCs and will never allow a TC to win and represent them. The biased majority showed their true colours by voting for a child who gave a below average performance the Aremenian was much better yet again he was doomed to fail just Zelis from the outset. You are being bloody minded if you cannot see the risks we face, continuing to deny this only shows your own blindness and commitment to creating a GC state where they can dominate and push us to one side.

Yeah but, had you taken part and supported your own TC contestant, she would have won. You did not lift a finger to help her, instead you want it awarded to you, because you want the TC's to remain as a minority and not as a equal citizens to the GC's. But just to help you out, in the final 5 contestants, there should be at least one TC and the remaining 4 can be anywhere from GC to Armenian, Latin and Maronite. This way, all the votes will be split equally, 100% votes divided by 5 = 20% each. If all the TC's vote for a TC singer, the TC's will win every time, since only very few GC's even bothered to vote for this stupid contest this time around, even though you called all 800,000 GC's RACIST, but I know it means the world to you, so go for the above plan, and you will win every time, even if he/she sings in Turkish, it will not matter, because they will win. I hope I made you happy with this plan.................again.!

[Viewpoint]

Everyone appears to have concentrated more on the songs than the principle of this issue which is a clear example of what TCs will face in a GC state where the majority of voters are GCs and will never allow a TC to win and represent them. The biased majority showed their true colours by voting for a child who gave a below average performance the Aremenian was much better yet again he was doomed to fail just Zelis from the outset. You are being bloody minded if you cannot see the risks we face, continuing to deny this only shows your own blindness and commitment to creating a GC state where they can dominate and push us to one side.

Yeah but, had you taken part and supported your own TC contestant, she would have won. You did not lift a finger to help her, instead you want it awarded to you, because you want the TC's to remain as a minority and not as a equal citizens to the GC's. But just to help you out, in the final 5 contestants, there should be at least one TC and the remaining 4 can be anywhere from GC to Armenian, Latin and Maronite. This way, all the votes will be split equally, 100% votes divided by 5 = 20% each. If all the TC's vote for a TC singer, the TC's will win every time, since only very few GC's even bothered to vote for this stupid contest this time around, even though you called all 800,000 a RACIST, but I know it means the world to you, so go for the above plan, and you will win every time, even if he/she sings in Turkish, it will not matter, because they will win. I hope I made you happy with this plan.................again.!

You are being bloody minded Kikapu, we dont live in the "RoC" nor did we have the means to vote, this is like asking us to vote for the competitors in France. Zelis took your word and believed she was part of the "RoC" accepting to compete in a GC state hoping the GCs would not be racists but she found out the hard way...let that be a lesson of all TC muscians that they do not stand a chance in hell in a GC state where the majority pool of voters will always vote ethnically rather than for talent. The principle is the important issue here, because this is what Tcs will exposed to everytime we have to compete in a biased racist society where the Gcs will always ensure we do not get a look in. Safeguards are becoming more and more vital to any new attempt at finding a solution.