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Having read the last few pages on this subject, you have all proven to me why this Euro No Vision, No Talent Crap Show is a waste of time to any good performers and that only those without very much talent apply to sing, just to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Listening to VP accusing the GC's being racist for not selecting the TC singer. Well, I have to say, that it was the TC's who were the worst “racist” towards the TC singer, for not even supporting her, so that she would fail, so that people like VP can vent their hatemongering. The TC's loved seeing this TC singer lose just to make some political points, because it is obvious that they would rather see her lose than win, and if she did win without the TC's help, then the accusations would have been, that it was fixed by the GC's, so to win some political points over the TC's. This girl was going to lose no matter happened.

Had she won, all the NeoPartitionist would have been making more noises than they already have after she lost. So TC's, where was your community support for this girl to win one for the TC’s, to show the world that a TC singer can represent Cyprus. You all failed her. You were “racist” towards one of your own, and very happy about it too by some. So much for caring to the TC movement. You are all talk, but when it comes to action, you could not be bothered to vote for her. Always blame others for the failure of a TC movement. Always expect everything to be given to us on a silver plate. Never lift a finger to help this TC singer win. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting this girl down, after it took so much courage for her to go and perform, but the TC's have let her down, so stop your complaints why she lost, all awhile smirking with joy behind your keyboards.!

Arent you the one that claims GC dont discriminate, if all Cypriots are as you claim Zelis's people then surely she should have gotten a few more votes as the votes she did get were from TCs, you are asking us to vote in another country we do not claim that the "RoC" is ours so therefore we do not have the means to vote. She took the leap of faith into the GC state being told shes one of them and that being a TC dont matter she will be judged on ability alone, well she has learned the hard way that GCs will never vote for a TC singer even if she was the best singer in the world with the best song. This is exactly what you refuse to see that if we are exposed to this sort of racist malfunctions in a united Cyprus then year upon year we will never be chosen, thats why safeguards are vital, if after eg 5 years oflosing out to other singers that are far worst than the TC singer surely the safety net should be in place so that a TC is elected. The process is different in some countries eg Turkey and Greece where the singers are handpicked and the song is chosen later, this would allow the new united to have both GC TC Armenian Maronite singers respresent Cyprus, otherwise the GCs will monopplize the event and we will be just onlookers waiting for crumbs.

Zelish knew she wouldnt be choosen when she was on stage. She was so tense and probably afraid of the GC crowd for a possible negative reaction from them.

[Viewpoint]

Having read the last few pages on this subject, you have all proven to me why this Euro No Vision, No Talent Crap Show is a waste of time to any good performers and that only those without very much talent apply to sing, just to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Listening to VP accusing the GC's being racist for not selecting the TC singer. Well, I have to say, that it was the TC's who were the worst “racist” towards the TC singer, for not even supporting her, so that she would fail, so that people like VP can vent their hatemongering. The TC's loved seeing this TC singer lose just to make some political points, because it is obvious that they would rather see her lose than win, and if she did win without the TC's help, then the accusations would have been, that it was fixed by the GC's, so to win some political points over the TC's. This girl was going to lose no matter happened.

Had she won, all the NeoPartitionist would have been making more noises than they already have after she lost. So TC's, where was your community support for this girl to win one for the TC’s, to show the world that a TC singer can represent Cyprus. You all failed her. You were “racist” towards one of your own, and very happy about it too by some. So much for caring to the TC movement. You are all talk, but when it comes to action, you could not be bothered to vote for her. Always blame others for the failure of a TC movement. Always expect everything to be given to us on a silver plate. Never lift a finger to help this TC singer win. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for letting this girl down, after it took so much courage for her to go and perform, but the TC's have let her down, so stop your complaints why she lost, all awhile smirking with joy behind your keyboards.!

Arent you the one that claims GC dont discriminate, if all Cypriots are as you claim Zelis's people then surely she should have gotten a few more votes as the votes she did get were from TCs, you are asking us to vote in another country we do not claim that the "RoC" is ours so therefore we do not have the means to vote. She took the leap of faith into the GC state being told shes one of them and that being a TC dont matter she will be judged on ability alone, well she has learned the hard way that GCs will never vote for a TC singer even if she was the best singer in the world with the best song. This is exactly what you refuse to see that if we are exposed to this sort of racist malfunctions in a united Cyprus then year upon year we will never be chosen, thats why safeguards are vital, if after eg 5 years oflosing out to other singers that are far worst than the TC singer surely the safety net should be in place so that a TC is elected. The process is different in some countries eg Turkey and Greece where the singers are handpicked and the song is chosen later, this would allow the new united to have both GC TC Armenian Maronite singers respresent Cyprus, otherwise the GCs will monopplize the event and we will be just onlookers waiting for crumbs.

Viewpoint, the only thing that you prove is that you are racist. There was 1 out of 10 songs by a TC, and according to you that song should have won because it was sang by a TC!! Talk about racism!!

Where did I say it should have won? I said if you had taken the time to read and understand what I wrote is that if GCs were not racists she should have gotten more votes as the votes she got were from TCs, and given that she was a far better singer than the GC girl that won Im sure you can do the maths. The balance of voting will always favor the GC singers as GCs are not mature enough to vote for talent as this competition proved they would rather send a child who cant sing on key and a song that reeks its a copy to represent them just because shes GC. This has been a great lesson for TC who think that GCs will treat them as equals in a united Cyprus.

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Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

[Viewpoint]

:roll: Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

Obviously you know nothing about musicality and quality, the notes and ability of Zelis was far great than the little Gc girl who was off key and lacked stage cpmmand and performance. You obviously have to make excuses for racist GCs and will continue to do so this is your forte you to are Gc after all, the day you realize that TCs in a GC state will always be disadvantaged because they will be judged on their ethnic origins rather than their talent. We could have put a world class singer with a great song and they would still not be chosen not because they are not talented or do not have the best song it would just be because they are TC. you know I am right but admitting would mean that you accept GCs are biased and therefore racists and that you can never do.

[Piratis]

:roll: Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

Obviously you know nothing about musicality and quality, the notes and ability of Zelis was far great than the little Gc girl who was off key and lacked stage performance. You obviously have to make excuses for racist GCs and will continue to do so this is your forte you to are Gc after all, the day you realize that TCs in a GC state will always be disadvantaged becuase they will be judged on their ethnic origins rather than their talent. We could have put a world wide singer with a great song and they would still not be chosen not becuase they are not talented or do not have the best just because they are TC. you know I am right but admiting this would mean that you would have to accept GCs are biased and there racists and that you can never do.

You are the racist one. If you were not racist then you would judge the songs based on their quality, not based on who sings them. But apparently because that one song was sang by a TC that made it the best one automatically for you. That is racism.

[Viewpoint]

:roll: Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

Obviously you know nothing about musicality and quality, the notes and ability of Zelis was far great than the little Gc girl who was off key and lacked stage performance. You obviously have to make excuses for racist GCs and will continue to do so this is your forte you to are Gc after all, the day you realize that TCs in a GC state will always be disadvantaged becuase they will be judged on their ethnic origins rather than their talent. We could have put a world wide singer with a great song and they would still not be chosen not becuase they are not talented or do not have the best just because they are TC. you know I am right but admiting this would mean that you would have to accept GCs are biased and there racists and that you can never do.

You are the racist one. If you were not racist then you would judge the songs based on their quality, not based on who sings them. But apparently because that one song was sang by a TC that made it the best one automatically for you. That is racism.

No actually I liked another song more but thats not the point a TC singer will never win because they are at a disadvantage from the outset because the majority of voting public are racist Gcs who will never vote for even the best of TC entrants just because they are TC. Hadise could have entered and she would have lost, do you now get it???

[Piratis]

What you should do is to participate more.

Why there was only 1 TC singer and this for the first time? The more TCs participate as both candidates and as voters, then more chances you will get. Participate fully and then you will see that you will get your fair share of singers in Eurovision, and everywhere else.

Trying to force your own on the top with undemocratic procedures, not only will not help you to get more representation, participation etc, but you will get nothing. This is what happens to greedy people like you, and you have only yourselves to blame for it.

You can take land by force, but for everything else your forceful undemocratic ways will not help you to achieve anything or get anywhere.

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:roll: Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

Obviously you know nothing about musicality and quality, the notes and ability of Zelis was far great than the little Gc girl who was off key and lacked stage performance. You obviously have to make excuses for racist GCs and will continue to do so this is your forte you to are Gc after all, the day you realize that TCs in a GC state will always be disadvantaged becuase they will be judged on their ethnic origins rather than their talent. We could have put a world wide singer with a great song and they would still not be chosen not becuase they are not talented or do not have the best just because they are TC. you know I am right but admiting this would mean that you would have to accept GCs are biased and there racists and that you can never do.

You are the racist one. If you were not racist then you would judge the songs based on their quality, not based on who sings them. But apparently because that one song was sang by a TC that made it the best one automatically for you. That is racism.

No actually I liked another song more but thats not the point a TC singer will never win because they are at a disadvantage from the outset because the majority of voting public are racist Gcs who will never vote for even the best of TC entrants just because they are TC. Hadise could have entered and she would have lost, do you now get it???

I don't think he knows who Hadise is.

[Piratis]

:roll: Who says that she was better? You?

I listened to the songs without knowing (or caring) from where the singers where and in fact I had no clue that she was TC. The only one I noticed that probably was not a GC was the last one because he was singing in Russian at some part of the song. From listening to all the songs and discussing them with 2 other people that were with me, we all agreed which were the better songs (among crap) and that song was not on any of us top 2.

If you didn't know that she was a TC you probably wouldn't 't think that she was the best either. You though so only because you are racist.

Obviously you know nothing about musicality and quality, the notes and ability of Zelis was far great than the little Gc girl who was off key and lacked stage performance. You obviously have to make excuses for racist GCs and will continue to do so this is your forte you to are Gc after all, the day you realize that TCs in a GC state will always be disadvantaged becuase they will be judged on their ethnic origins rather than their talent. We could have put a world wide singer with a great song and they would still not be chosen not becuase they are not talented or do not have the best just because they are TC. you know I am right but admiting this would mean that you would have to accept GCs are biased and there racists and that you can never do.

You are the racist one. If you were not racist then you would judge the songs based on their quality, not based on who sings them. But apparently because that one song was sang by a TC that made it the best one automatically for you. That is racism.

No actually I liked another song more but thats not the point a TC singer will never win because they are at a disadvantage from the outset because the majority of voting public are racist Gcs who will never vote for even the best of TC entrants just because they are TC. Hadise could have entered and she would have lost, do you now get it???

No mate, I don't. She came 5th, very close to the 3rd and 4th in votes.

I would understand your point if every other song had received 10.000 votes and hers 2000. But that was not the case.

As always you trying to find some excuse to show your racism against GC!

[Viewpoint]

What you should do is to participate more.

Why there was only 1 TC singer and this for the first time? The more TCs participate as both candidates and as voters, then more chances you will get. Participate fully and then you will see that you will get your fair share of singers in Eurovision, and everywhere else.

Trying to force your own on the top with undemocratic procedures, not only will not help you to get more representation, participation etc, but you will get nothing. This is what happens to greedy people like you, and you have only yourselves to blame for it.

You can take land by force, but for everything else your forceful undemocratic ways will not help you to achieve anything or get anywhere.

You still have not got it...800.000 racist GC voters will never allow a TC to win, cant out it more plain than that. This competition proves my point 100%.