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Vp:

Do you trust GCs to be unbiased? I dont.

Lets say for 10 years TCs have never been chosen although the singer was more talented than the GC entrants but a GC was yet again chosen what do we do? There has to be safeguards.

I believe your right on this Vp, and theres nothing I can say to convince otherwise. But you have a habbit of jumping on the racial card at every chance that you can find to throw a banana peel to contraversy.
So the question is do you really think the world will change their rules to every legal platform just to appease the Turks way of seeing things?

Without these sorts of safeguards it will be stalemate forever the only option remaining will be agreed partition for return of land. We cannot be expected to take that jump of faith knowing full well your tendencies to discriminate against TCs, we need safeguards and plenty of them to guarantee our effective say in the running of a united Cyprus as we do not trust you one iota and neither do you us.

With these sort of safegaurds which you are demanding and are undemocratic and favors the TC's you are asking for trouble again. If you do not like democracy just leave the country. I can move to a country like Saudi and earn lots of money if I wish.....I don't like their laws and habbits.....so I don't go.......and if I would try and I don't like it....there is 1 option.....move elsewhere

Address my concerns, you cannot say they are not realistic and ask for me to take a leap of faith into the arms of GCs. We just wont do it, Cyprus can stay divided forever.

Cyprus will be unified and you can leave whever you like if you don't like it. You are the one that does not accept human rights and equality for everybody. We are not living in the sixties and seventies anymore so your concerns are not mine concerns. I believe piece can and will exist on the island if you do not demand more then every other citizen on this island. Have a pleasant evening

Telling me to leave my homeland or that my concerns are not yours so therefore they are invalid will not bring about unification, once you realize we are an integral part of this isalnd and that our rights have to be protected against a majority which is not just hostile but waiting to gasp my rights under the veil of camaflouge. My community is an equal partner and its time you started to acknowledge this fact, we will not be push to one side by GCs every again.

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Vp:

Do you trust GCs to be unbiased? I dont.

Lets say for 10 years TCs have never been chosen although the singer was more talented than the GC entrants but a GC was yet again chosen what do we do? There has to be safeguards.

I believe your right on this Vp, and theres nothing I can say to convince otherwise. But you have a habbit of jumping on the racial card at every chance that you can find to throw a banana peel to contraversy.
So the question is do you really think the world will change their rules to every legal platform just to appease the Turks way of seeing things?

Without these sorts of safeguards it will be stalemate forever the only option remaining will be agreed partition for return of land. We cannot be expected to take that jump of faith knowing full well your tendencies to discriminate against TCs, we need safeguards and plenty of them to guarantee our effective say in the running of a united Cyprus as we do not trust you one iota and neither do you us.

With these sort of safegaurds which you are demanding and are undemocratic and favors the TC's you are asking for trouble again. If you do not like democracy just leave the country. I can move to a country like Saudi and earn lots of money if I wish.....I don't like their laws and habbits.....so I don't go.......and if I would try and I don't like it....there is 1 option.....move elsewhere

Address my concerns, you cannot say they are not realistic and ask for me to take a leap of faith into the arms of GCs. We just wont do it, Cyprus can stay divided forever.

Cyprus will be unified and you can leave whever you like if you don't like it. You are the one that does not accept human rights and equality for everybody. We are not living in the sixties and seventies anymore so your concerns are not mine concerns. I believe piece can and will exist on the island if you do not demand more then every other citizen on this island. Have a pleasant evening

Telling me to leave my homeland or that my concerns are not yours so therefore they are invalid will not bring about unification, once you realize we are an integral part of this isalnd and that our rights have to be protected against a majority which is not just hostile but waiting to gasp my rights under the veil of camaflouge. My community is an equal partner and its time you started to acknowledge this fact, we will not be push to one side by GCs every again.

It seems that the only ones that see you as a equal partner are the GC's!!! They give you passports as EU citizens.....they give you more medical rights then the GC's.....you can come and claim your land back!! You are the ones that do not acknowledge this by demanding more rights then the GC's. You just want to have it from 2 cakes don't you? You accept all these privilages and go back to the occupied side and sell of GC owned land. You are just common thieves....nothing else VP.

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Why dont you stop all these "privlidges"? you are milking the fact that you cliam you represent all Cypriots and therefore have to provide these goodies you keep reminding us of, you sole our recognition and now you complain that you have to act like every other country that claims its provides its citizens rights, try stopping and living with the international backlash....if you had the balls you would have stopped these "privilidges".

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Why dont you stop all these "privlidges"? you are milking the fact that you cliam you represent all Cypriots and therefore have to provide these goodies you keep reminding us of, you sole our recognition and now you complain that you have to act like every other country that claims its provides its citizens rights, try stopping and living with the international backlash....if you had the balls you would have stopped these "privilidges".

I'm not complaining....these are your rights! So why should we stop these privileges....all decent countries have these priviliges. But you're right....Atleast you aknowledge the fact that we do represent all Cypriots. Now let's see if your side does the same. Does your side represent all Cypriots????? I don't think so........and if you do....unify Cyprus and let me enjoy the same priviliges in the north that you have in the south. But thats a NO go right? Selfish bastards........why don't you just say you want it all.......and that the world has to feel sorry for your asses for what happenend in the past. Both sides suffered enough for long enough....let's get it over and done with. Which by the way is not partition. The north will be isolated for the coming 1000 years. No TC will be left on the island.....just mainland Turks. Your choice VP

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We have never claimed we represent all Cypriots just Turkish Cypriots, thats what you claim in order to keep recognition otherwise you could not reep the benefits.

You have yet to realize that we would rather be absorbed by the Turks which is where we originate form than unite under as olution that would not address our concerns and leave us at the mercy of GCs. When will you understand this????

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We have never claimed we represent all Cypriots just Turkish Cypriots, thats what you claim in order to keep recognition otherwise you could not reep the benefits.

You have yet to realize that we would rather be absorbed by the Turks which is where we originate form than unite under as olution that would not address our concerns and leave us at the mercy of GCs. When will you understand this????

You see you are a selfish bastard us...us....us.....what about the other people that life on this island.....the GC's? You can unite with a democratic country and with a democratic people. Your concerns are noticed! Your mercy will fall under an EU country......and if you feel more like a Turk then you have no place here......move to Turkey. It's people like you who started all the troubles in the past. In previous posts I was considering buying you a beer at some stage to have a normal converstation. It seems you are more Turk then you are Cypriot so the beer is out of the question Move to Turkey where you will feel comfortable.

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Yet again you tell me leave my country well I have to make you feel ill I am not going anywhere. You may claim to be European but we have first hand experience of your ideals administered to TCs so we will not fall for that one, you can place a saddle on a donkey doesnt mean it makes it a race horse. Who said I would ever accept your offer to have a drink? I can buy my own beer thanlyou very much. This whole thing about being a Turk you Gcs throw it about likes its an insult we are proud of our Turkishness so you are really paying us a great compliment thank you very much.

Its people like you who were so bloody minded they thought they could gift our country to Greece therefore signing our death warrant.

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Yet again you tell me leave my country well I have to make you feel ill I am not going anywhere. You may claim to be European but we have first hand experience of your ideals administered to TCs so we will not fall for that one, you can place a saddle on a donkey doesnt mean it makes it a race horse. Who said I would ever accept your offer to have a drink? I can buy my own beer thanlyou very much. This whole thing about being a Turk you Gcs throw it about likes its an insult we are proud of our Turkishness so you are really paying us a great compliment thank you very much.

Its people like you who were so bloody minded they thought they could gift our country to Greece therefore signing our death warrant.

In the first place I'm not a GC! It's ignorant fools like you who are the problem on this beautiful island. You are so full of hatred that you can not see the difference between reality and the fantasy world you life in. You are a Cypriot with Turkish heritage or you are a Turk.....that's your phekking choice. If you Consider yourself a Turk that's your problem but move on to where you feel most comfortable. I'm a foreigner that considers himself Cypriot and believes in the exsisting of multicultural countries......you just want to be a Turk from your statements that wants to rule another country. So again....you are in the wrong place. Move to Turkey. You calling yourself a Turk justifies you not living in Cyprus which is from the Cypriots. Discussion ends here. Sleep well Turk

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Yet again you tell me leave my country well I have to make you feel ill I am not going anywhere. You may claim to be European but we have first hand experience of your ideals administered to TCs so we will not fall for that one, you can place a saddle on a donkey doesnt mean it makes it a race horse. Who said I would ever accept your offer to have a drink? I can buy my own beer thanlyou very much. This whole thing about being a Turk you Gcs throw it about likes its an insult we are proud of our Turkishness so you are really paying us a great compliment thank you very much.

Its people like you who were so bloody minded they thought they could gift our country to Greece therefore signing our death warrant.

In the first place I'm not a GC! It's ignorant fools like you who are the problem on this beautiful island. You are so full of hatred that you can not see the difference between reality and the fantasy world you life in. You are a Cypriot with Turkish heritage or you are a Turk.....that's your phekking choice. If you Consider yourself a Turk that's your problem but move on to where you feel most comfortable. I'm a foreigner that considers himself Cypriot and believes in the exsisting of multicultural countries......you just want to be a Turk from your statements that wants to rule another country. So again....you are in the wrong place. Move to Turkey. You calling yourself a Turk justifies you not living in Cyprus which is from the Cypriots. Discussion ends here. Sleep well Turk

The above statement only reveals your own ignorance and will you refrain form telling me to leave my own country. You are challenging my views and concerns so whether you are GC or not is irrelevent, I recommend you clam down and try to understand why we demand what we do.

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Yet again you tell me leave my country well I have to make you feel ill I am not going anywhere. You may claim to be European but we have first hand experience of your ideals administered to TCs so we will not fall for that one, you can place a saddle on a donkey doesnt mean it makes it a race horse. Who said I would ever accept your offer to have a drink? I can buy my own beer thanlyou very much. This whole thing about being a Turk you Gcs throw it about likes its an insult we are proud of our Turkishness so you are really paying us a great compliment thank you very much.

Its people like you who were so bloody minded they thought they could gift our country to Greece therefore signing our death warrant.

In the first place I'm not a GC! It's ignorant fools like you who are the problem on this beautiful island. You are so full of hatred that you can not see the difference between reality and the fantasy world you life in. You are a Cypriot with Turkish heritage or you are a Turk.....that's your phekking choice. If you Consider yourself a Turk that's your problem but move on to where you feel most comfortable. I'm a foreigner that considers himself Cypriot and believes in the exsisting of multicultural countries......you just want to be a Turk from your statements that wants to rule another country. So again....you are in the wrong place. Move to Turkey. You calling yourself a Turk justifies you not living in Cyprus which is from the Cypriots. Discussion ends here. Sleep well Turk

The above statement only reveals your own ignorance and will you refrain form telling me to leave my own country. You are challenging my views and concerns so whether you are GC or not is irrelevent, I recommend you clam down and try to understand why we demand what we do.

Whether I am GC or TC is indead rellevant. If I don't like it here I should move elsewhere. It seems that you are the one that does not consider Cyprus as your own country and want to create another state because you feel like it and due to happenings in the past. It's you that can't leave the past behind you. Nobody is asking you to forget.....but the least you can do is forgive and move on. The country I'm from, all kinds of people life together everyday....and all of them prosper. I do understand demanding of safeguards....what I do not understand is that you are asking for more privileges than other citizens on this island which are undemocratical.