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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:34 pm

doesntmatter wrote:First you quote :The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

And then follow it with this:


This is what happened on Cyprus in 1570 according to


Yes GR, we can all see that you really, really know what "subsequent" means. :lol:

Next time, consult a dictionary before you make an utterly complete dork of yourself, you clown. :lol: :lol:

For your info, this author’s English is wrong because there’s no such thing as “subsequent occupation” unless you’re referring to more than one occupation in succession!

As written, the sentence implies that there was one failed occupation followed by another that started well! :lol:

It goes to show once again, that we must be very careful where we get our information from.

It also shows that you are an uneducated fool who thinks he's found a great “opportunity” to capitalize from… :roll:
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Postby halil » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:01 pm

halil wrote:Cyprus,The Problem In The Light of Truth
VS
Cyprus,the problem in Perspective

Cyprus Before 1955

Cyprus was part of Turkey from 1571 until 1914 when Great Britain by a unilateral action annexed the island to the British Crown.The unilateral British action was subsequently ratified by by the Turkish and Greek Goverments in 1923 at the Traty of Lausanne.As a result , a great number of Turks were forced to emigrate Turkey.It is interesting to note that up to the begining of the 19th century the Turks constituted the biger community numerically than the Greek-speaking people on theisland.Accordind to Census of 1777 as reported by Kyprianou , a native of Cyprus and Archimandrite of the Church ,The total population of the island was 84000 of which 47000 were Turks and 37000 Greeks-See Handbook of Cyprus 1913.p.33 Though the rate of birth is greater amongs Turks.
The poulation progressivfely decreaset ,especially after British occupation.For istance at the begining of the British occupation the population ratio between Greeks and Turks was 3:1 at the end of British occupation the ratio was 4 :1

I will write rest of the book later on.


Once again i needed remind ..... This book was written down to answer the Greek Public Information book which is published under the name of
CYPRUS:The Problem in Perspective.

here it is some bits more from the Turkish Cypriots Pulic Information book .

However, the Greek community which lived and flourished as a seperate community under Turkish rule -the independence of Greek Orthodox Church having been recongnised by an Imperial decree issud in Istanbul following the Turkish conquest of Cyprus-continued to enjoy the same autonomous communities which were in truth and in factcompletly seperate from each other because of religion,language,culture,custom,belief andpolitical aspirations,continued to remain and live as two distinct entities.Seperation became more and more accentuated as the Greek Community started identifiying itself with ''mother Greece''and claimed the annexiation of Cyprus to Greece(ENOSİS) .The Turks in return never ceased to identify themself with Turkey and expressed their will and their consciousness to remain part and parcel of Turkey.They resisted vigorously the Greek claim for ENOSİS.The seperate and conflicting political consciousness and identity of the two communities reached its climax when the the Greek Community organized themself and started to force their way towards ENOSIS in complete disregard of existance of the Turkish Community.
The Greeks,in their attempt to overpower and silance the Turkish Community ,started a campaign of insults,injustice,discrimination and hostility against the Turks. All these acts and the bitter expriencies of co-existance over a long perod of time embedded the deep rooted idea in mind and psychology of the Turks that if the Greeks found the chance they would not trat Turks fairly and squarly.And indeed as this campaign for ENOSIS grew in tempo under the leadership of the CHURCH and of professional agitators from Greece,the attack on Turks and Turkish rights ,the insults to and humiliation of Turks at every sphere of life,discrimination at government services and at municipal functiones increased in proportion thereby forcing Turks to rely more and more on their community's resources for self -supports and protection.


more bits will be latter on .

p.s in here writer means ;Turks=TC's ,Greeks=GR's
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Postby insan » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:First you quote :The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

And then follow it with this:


This is what happened on Cyprus in 1570 according to


Yes GR, we can all see that you really, really know what "subsequent" means. :lol:

Next time, consult a dictionary before you make an utterly complete dork of yourself, you clown. :lol: :lol:

For your info, this author’s English is wrong because there’s no such thing as “subsequent occupation” unless you’re referring to more than one occupation in succession!

As written, the sentence implies that there was one failed occupation followed by another that started well! :lol:

It goes to show once again, that we must be very careful where we get our information from.

It also shows that you are an uneducated fool who thinks he's found a great “opportunity” to capitalize from… :roll:




...the subsequent occupation of almost 40% of its territory.


http://www.un.int/cyprus/pr27.01.htm

It seems one of the GC official made the same grammatical mistake in one of his press releases which appears on un.int website and according to ur ill mentality this makes it rubbish, doesn't worth for read.

:lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:17 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
Oracle wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Maybe i caused him a heart attack? :lol:

If you want to continue posting junk links like the Wiki, answers.com, and similar crap sites go ahead but there’s a price to pay… so keep making a complete fool of yourself until you’ve had enough.

Otherwise learn from this…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17747


Hello GR, what does "subsequent" , mean matey? :lol:

This word may be new and exciting to you and I’m happy for you but please don’t get too excited over basic English in case you end up with another stain on your pants…


First you quote :The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

And then follow it with this:


This is what happened on Cyprus in 1570 according to


Yes GR, we can all see that you really, really know what "subsequent" means. :lol:

Next time, consult a dictionary before you make an utterly complete dork of yourself, you clown. :lol: :lol:


What a baboon!

Those were another's quotes, which GR! was dealing with separately .....


That's what I said you silly woman, stop making a fool of yourself and read what I wrote. :roll:

Look, here it is again just in case your old eyes were too tired to see them before you made a fool of yourself.


First you quote
:The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

I've colored what I said in dark blue in case you are color blind as can't see the normal black letter, also made it HUGE just in case your goggles are not near you. :lol:

In case you still can not see or understand it let me know and I'll try and get it translated in to Greek or put some pictures up that you just might be able to undertsand. :roll::lol:


So why are you relentlessly pursuing GR! for something he did not write?
What an attention seeking desperado. :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:03 pm

insan wrote:
...the subsequent occupation of almost 40% of its territory.


http://www.un.int/cyprus/pr27.01.htm

It seems one of the GC official made the same grammatical mistake in one of his press releases which appears on un.int website and according to ur ill mentality this makes it rubbish, doesn't worth for read.

:lol:

The sentence…

“…since the Turkish invasion of the Republic of Cyprus and the subsequent occupation of almost 40%...”

…is correct except maybe an unnecessary second “the”, but you can’t start a new paragraph with…

“The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start.”

Subsequent to what? :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:06 pm

Oracle wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Oracle wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
insan wrote:Maybe i caused him a heart attack? :lol:

If you want to continue posting junk links like the Wiki, answers.com, and similar crap sites go ahead but there’s a price to pay… so keep making a complete fool of yourself until you’ve had enough.

Otherwise learn from this…

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=17747


Hello GR, what does "subsequent" , mean matey? :lol:

This word may be new and exciting to you and I’m happy for you but please don’t get too excited over basic English in case you end up with another stain on your pants…


First you quote :The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

And then follow it with this:


This is what happened on Cyprus in 1570 according to


Yes GR, we can all see that you really, really know what "subsequent" means. :lol:

Next time, consult a dictionary before you make an utterly complete dork of yourself, you clown. :lol: :lol:


What a baboon!

Those were another's quotes, which GR! was dealing with separately .....


That's what I said you silly woman, stop making a fool of yourself and read what I wrote. :roll:

Look, here it is again just in case your old eyes were too tired to see them before you made a fool of yourself.


First you quote
:The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

I've colored what I said in dark blue in case you are color blind as can't see the normal black letter, also made it HUGE just in case your goggles are not near you. :lol:

In case you still can not see or understand it let me know and I'll try and get it translated in to Greek or put some pictures up that you just might be able to undertsand. :roll::lol:


So why are you relentlessly pursuing GR! for something he did not write?
What an attention seeking desperado. :roll:


The "desperado" is you trying to save your friends arse here woman.

The guy who GR quoted was talking about after (subsequent) the Ottoman conquered Cyprus, GR the clown replied with what happend in 1570 in an attempt ti ridicule the quote.

Are you really that thick or just jumping in to defend GR without having read the thread? :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:19 pm

doesntmatter wrote:The "desperado" is you trying to save your friends arse here woman.

The guy who GR quoted was talking about after (subsequent) the Ottoman conquered Cyprus, GR the clown replied with what happend in 1570 in an attempt ti ridicule the quote.

Are you really that thick or just jumping in to defend GR without having read the thread? :roll:

The author’s English is crap, his facts wrong, and your IQ exposed by the same characteristic that determines it… your stupidity! :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:23 pm

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:First you quote :The subsequent Ottoman occupation of Cyprus got off to a good start…

And then follow it with this:


This is what happened on Cyprus in 1570 according to


Yes GR, we can all see that you really, really know what "subsequent" means. :lol:

Next time, consult a dictionary before you make an utterly complete dork of yourself, you clown. :lol: :lol:

For your info, this author’s English is wrong because there’s no such thing as “subsequent occupation” unless you’re referring to more than one occupation in succession!

As written, the sentence implies that there was one failed occupation followed by another that started well! :lol:

It goes to show once again, that we must be very careful where we get our information from.

It also shows that you are an uneducated fool who thinks he's found a great “opportunity” to capitalize from… :roll:


As Cyprus was under Venetian occupation the sentence does refer to "more than one occupation" and is correct and it certainly does not mean the attacks in 1570 which you replied with. It refers to the way the Ottoman treated the inhabitants of the island AFTER it conquered it. Get it clown? :roll:

SUBSEQUENT: FOLLOWING IN TIME OR ORDER, you uneducated clown. :roll:

You can twist it as much as you like but all you are doing is proving that you are the uneductaed clown in this forum and wherever else you post in.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:45 pm

doesntmatter wrote:As Cyprus was under Venetian occupation the sentence does refer to "more than one occupation" and is correct and it certainly does not mean the attacks in 1570 which you replied with. It refers to the way the Ottoman treated the inhabitants of the island AFTER it conquered it. Get it clown? :roll:

SUBSEQUENT: FOLLOWING IN TIME OR ORDER, you uneducated clown. :roll:

You can twist it as much as you like but all you are doing is proving that you are the uneductaed clown in this forum and wherever else you post in.

Give it up goofball...it's over! You're just burying yourself deeper with even more stupidities! :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:The "desperado" is you trying to save your friends arse here woman.

The guy who GR quoted was talking about after (subsequent) the Ottoman conquered Cyprus, GR the clown replied with what happend in 1570 in an attempt ti ridicule the quote.

Are you really that thick or just jumping in to defend GR without having read the thread? :roll:

The author’s English is crap, his facts wrong, and your IQ exposed by the same characteristic that determines it… your stupidity! :lol:


It's your English that is crap you clown and your attempt to discrdit him only exposes your own low IQ in undestanding basic English. Stick to Greeklish you clown. :lol:

Read the quote below and tell me what's wrong with it.

Once the center of power for the large Austro-Hungarian Empire, Austria was reduced to a small republic after its defeat in World War I. Following annexation by Nazi Germany in 1938 and subsequent occupation by the victorious Allies in 1945, Austria's status remained unclear for a decade. A State Treaty signed in 1955 ended the occupation, recognized Austria's independence, and forbade unification with Germany. A constitutional law that same year declared the country's "perpetual neutrality" as a condition for Soviet military withdrawal. The Soviet Union's collapse in 1991 and Austria's entry into the European Union in 1995 have altered the meaning of this neutrality. A prosperous, democratic country, Austria entered the EU Economic Monetary Union in 1999.
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